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On November 13 2010 00:59 clementdudu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 00:08 TymerA wrote:On November 12 2010 23:52 clementdudu wrote:On November 12 2010 19:46 Lann555 wrote:On November 12 2010 19:34 don_kyuhote wrote:On November 12 2010 19:25 prOxi.Beater wrote:On November 12 2010 14:43 Cel.erity wrote:
Many historians believe that 200-300 years of our history actually never existed, and it was actually a small segment of history which was expanded and exaggerated over time. This would put us closer to about 1700 AD in real time, meaning we won't have to worry about any Mayan predictions for quite some time to come. This makes absolutely no sense. What do you mean by "our history"? Are you saying that Mayan historical time is not consistent with european historical time? Are you saying that a bunch of people wrote about a bunch of stuff that never happened? (You can't fake pre-historical time since our knowledge of this period is all based on concrete evidence). Look, the entire notion that our timeline should somehow be skewed is just preposterous, and once you know anything about history and how it is written you'll realize that it simply does not make sense. Also, doomsday predictions have been around forever and they have always, and will always, be wrong. Pretty much the only way I see humanity coming to an end within the next billion years is if a bunch of aliens randomly decide to exist and that blowing up Earth would be a good idea. Which of course will not happen Sounds like a pretty good description of people like Kim Jong il or Ahmadinejad. Seriously, it is the rogue regimes with nukes that will cause the end of humanity. Nah, the moment Iran or NK fires a nuclear missile at anyone, the US and others will turn their entire country into a nuclear wasteland. At best you'd lose a few cities who were attacked first + agressor country. End of humanity requires two superpowers going balls out. Or the end of the Maya calender obviously The only two countries than can blow up the world right now are Russia and USA. I can hardly see Russia blow up more than chechenia and maybe Ukraine,....i can see USA blowing up everything though. But there are still more chances than Russia will nuke the shit out of chechenia before US make a move on the entire world :o What..? That was so much nonsense. Why would Russia want to blow up Ukraine? Or why would they blow up Chechnya? Chechnya is part of Russia and i hardly believe a country will fire nuclear missiles onto muslim extremists inside their own country. Your claims are retarded. And what do you mean by ''hardly see Russia blow up more then Chechenia and maybe Ukraine,.... i can see USA blowing up everything though'' Do you think Russia doesn't have enough firepower?? Or are you claiming America is gonna blow up everything because they are reckless..? I agree on the Chechnya part,it's unlikely they nuke it,just carpet bomb it to the ground.(wait theyre already doing it  ) Russian have very tense relations with ex USSR members,and they had a big problem with Ukraine 2-3 years ago if i remember correctly about gazprom and gaz being delivered to Ukraine.The tension was so high that at some point Ukraine turned to EU(and US i think)for *military support* if it was to go to another level,to which everybody answered:fu were not going to war with Russia over a shitty country like yours(or something in those lines) and forced Ukraine to agree with Russia and pay shitload of money for gaz they maybe never had. Russia was also pretty angry with Ukraine wanting to join the NATO a while ago.I think Ukraine was pretty much the center of the US anti-missile shield in Europe,which pissed off the russians even more. Russia has almost double of US nukes,so the firepower is on their side;) As for the US part,sure theyre not going to blow up something in the next 5 years.....wait til meatheads come to Washington,China takes world lead and expect a very agressive response from the US;)
Uhm carpetbomb? They are currently trying to rebuild the destroyed cities and any initial hostility comes from terrorists... Ukraine never received the gas??? EUROPE received the gas. The gas comes from Russia, goes trough Ukraine to Europe. They didn't pay their bills to Russia. The tension was that Russia could stop the gas coming to Ukraine, meaning Europe would have sirious trouble.
Edit; ofcourse the Russians got pissed off over the missile defense system. Do you think Russia is retarded? Its to protect Europe from ''threats of the middle east''. Bullshit. When Russia tried this shit back in the cold war (sending missiles to Cuba) the situation almost escalated into total war.
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On November 13 2010 00:59 clementdudu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 00:08 TymerA wrote:On November 12 2010 23:52 clementdudu wrote:On November 12 2010 19:46 Lann555 wrote:On November 12 2010 19:34 don_kyuhote wrote:On November 12 2010 19:25 prOxi.Beater wrote:On November 12 2010 14:43 Cel.erity wrote:
Many historians believe that 200-300 years of our history actually never existed, and it was actually a small segment of history which was expanded and exaggerated over time. This would put us closer to about 1700 AD in real time, meaning we won't have to worry about any Mayan predictions for quite some time to come. This makes absolutely no sense. What do you mean by "our history"? Are you saying that Mayan historical time is not consistent with european historical time? Are you saying that a bunch of people wrote about a bunch of stuff that never happened? (You can't fake pre-historical time since our knowledge of this period is all based on concrete evidence). Look, the entire notion that our timeline should somehow be skewed is just preposterous, and once you know anything about history and how it is written you'll realize that it simply does not make sense. Also, doomsday predictions have been around forever and they have always, and will always, be wrong. Pretty much the only way I see humanity coming to an end within the next billion years is if a bunch of aliens randomly decide to exist and that blowing up Earth would be a good idea. Which of course will not happen Sounds like a pretty good description of people like Kim Jong il or Ahmadinejad. Seriously, it is the rogue regimes with nukes that will cause the end of humanity. Nah, the moment Iran or NK fires a nuclear missile at anyone, the US and others will turn their entire country into a nuclear wasteland. At best you'd lose a few cities who were attacked first + agressor country. End of humanity requires two superpowers going balls out. Or the end of the Maya calender obviously The only two countries than can blow up the world right now are Russia and USA. I can hardly see Russia blow up more than chechenia and maybe Ukraine,....i can see USA blowing up everything though. But there are still more chances than Russia will nuke the shit out of chechenia before US make a move on the entire world :o What..? That was so much nonsense. Why would Russia want to blow up Ukraine? Or why would they blow up Chechnya? Chechnya is part of Russia and i hardly believe a country will fire nuclear missiles onto muslim extremists inside their own country. Your claims are retarded. And what do you mean by ''hardly see Russia blow up more then Chechenia and maybe Ukraine,.... i can see USA blowing up everything though'' Do you think Russia doesn't have enough firepower?? Or are you claiming America is gonna blow up everything because they are reckless..? I agree on the Chechnya part,it's unlikely they nuke it,just carpet bomb it to the ground.(wait theyre already doing it ) Russian have very tense relations with ex USSR members,and they had a big problem with Ukraine 2-3 years ago if i remember correctly about gazprom and gaz being delivered to Ukraine.The tension was so high that at some point Ukraine turned to EU(and US i think)for *military support* if it was to go to another level,to which everybody answered:fu were not going to war with Russia over a shitty country like yours(or something in those lines) and forced Ukraine to agree with Russia and pay shitload of money for gaz they maybe never had. Russia was also pretty angry with Ukraine wanting to join the NATO a while ago.I think Ukraine was pretty much the center of the US anti-missile shield in Europe,which pissed off the russians even more. Russia has almost double of US nukes,so the firepower is on their side;) As for the US part,sure theyre not going to blow up something in the next 5 years.....wait til meatheads come to Washington,China takes world lead and expect a very agressive response from the US;)
Even if all of your worst-case scenarios become true (they won't) it still won't kill humanity. The losses are going to be huge and the majority of the land will suffer from heavy radiation-poisoning and it still won't matter. A lot of people are going to survive, they will find ways to domesticate animals and make agriculture work. Ultimately it would simply be a huge disaster that would radically change and deminish the quality of life for the survivors. Nuclear bombs will not be the end of humanity, not even by a longshot.
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On November 12 2010 20:09 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 18:56 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On November 11 2010 13:32 facefart wrote:
So mayans could predict the end of the world but they werent able to predict the end of their own civilisation? Cut the bullcrap please... So... how do you know they didn't predict their own demise? Or are you just assuming that if they predicted it they would have stopped it? Because they would have put it in their calender... duh.
They actually did predict their own demise, and they did put it in their calendars.
That's like one of the main points of most conspiracy theorists.
The Mayan Calendars comprehension of time, seasons, and cycles has proven itself to be vast and sophisticated. The Maya understand 17 different calendars, some of them charting time accurately over a span of more than ten million years. The calendar that has steadily drawn global attention since 1987 is called the Tzolk'in or Cholq'ij. Devised ages ago and based on the cycle of the Pleiades, it is still held as sacred. With the indigenous calendars, native people have kept track of important turning points in history. For example, the daykeepers who study the calendars identified an important day in the year One Reed, Ce Acatal, as it was called by the Mexicans. That was the day when an important ancestor was prophesied to return, "coming like a butterfly." In the western calendar, the One Reed date correlates to Easter Sunday, April 21, 1519 the day that Hernando Cortez and his fleet of 11 Spanish galleons arrived from the East at what is today called Vera Cruz, Mexico.
When the Spanish ships came toward shore, native people were waiting and watching to see how it would go. The billowing sails of the ships did indeed remind the scouts of butterflies skimming the ocean surface.
copied from some random website.
Not saying I agree with the conspiracy theorists, I'm just saying you guys should at least know what their "theories" are before trying to argue with them. It's like arguing for atheism and not knowing anything about religion.
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On November 13 2010 01:16 LolnoobInsanity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 20:09 nihlon wrote:On November 12 2010 18:56 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On November 11 2010 13:32 facefart wrote:
So mayans could predict the end of the world but they werent able to predict the end of their own civilisation? Cut the bullcrap please... So... how do you know they didn't predict their own demise? Or are you just assuming that if they predicted it they would have stopped it? Because they would have put it in their calender... duh. They actually did predict their own demise, and they did put it in their calendars. That's like one of the main points of most conspiracy theorists. Show nested quote +The Mayan Calendars comprehension of time, seasons, and cycles has proven itself to be vast and sophisticated. The Maya understand 17 different calendars, some of them charting time accurately over a span of more than ten million years. The calendar that has steadily drawn global attention since 1987 is called the Tzolk'in or Cholq'ij. Devised ages ago and based on the cycle of the Pleiades, it is still held as sacred. With the indigenous calendars, native people have kept track of important turning points in history. For example, the daykeepers who study the calendars identified an important day in the year One Reed, Ce Acatal, as it was called by the Mexicans. That was the day when an important ancestor was prophesied to return, "coming like a butterfly." In the western calendar, the One Reed date correlates to Easter Sunday, April 21, 1519 the day that Hernando Cortez and his fleet of 11 Spanish galleons arrived from the East at what is today called Vera Cruz, Mexico.
When the Spanish ships came toward shore, native people were waiting and watching to see how it would go. The billowing sails of the ships did indeed remind the scouts of butterflies skimming the ocean surface. copied from some random website. Not saying I agree with the conspiracy theorists, I'm just saying you guys should at least know what their "theories" are before trying to argue with them. It's like arguing for atheism and not knowing anything about religion.
We pretty much agree,conspiracy theories are like religion,a lot of bullshits noone will ever prove/see come true;)
You do not have to prove that atheism is true,it's the opposite.
Like you do not have to argue about conspiracy theories/world destruction theories,you just have to lget proofs.
Something both religion/world destruction theories failed to do since those things exist;)
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Ok people, listen I graduated at the UofArizona in History. One might ask what does the past have to do with any predictions of the future. Well a few things that might be relevant are one of the most infamous people to make the prediction, Nostradamus, that the world would end in 2012 did so before Julius Caesar even implemented the Julian Calender. That is important for several reasons, first his calender and our present day calender would differ, therefore making the years 2012 fall on different days because the Christian faith had not yet been adopted in Rome by Constantine, and was not yet widely popular as a faith around that time period. It would have been impossible to choose the year 2012, when the calender before was not based off when a certain messiah died.
Also, yes the main reason people worry the world is going to end in 2012 is because of the Mayans. And although their astronomical research was way ahead of it's time, one must remember this was all before Gallileo invented the bifocal telescope. Yes they had astounding discoveries centuries ahead of their technology in the astronomical field, but still it is a very limited range to base it on when acknowledging their human eyesight handicap.
Modern Astronomers do say that a solar maxim will happen around the year of 2012, and I've also heard theories about the polar tides reversing. I'd like to know more but considering in Earth's longstanding history there have been solar maxims before i cant imagine this being the reason everything goes south *a little pun here*.
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On November 13 2010 01:04 TymerA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 00:59 clementdudu wrote:On November 13 2010 00:08 TymerA wrote:On November 12 2010 23:52 clementdudu wrote:On November 12 2010 19:46 Lann555 wrote:On November 12 2010 19:34 don_kyuhote wrote:On November 12 2010 19:25 prOxi.Beater wrote:On November 12 2010 14:43 Cel.erity wrote:
Many historians believe that 200-300 years of our history actually never existed, and it was actually a small segment of history which was expanded and exaggerated over time. This would put us closer to about 1700 AD in real time, meaning we won't have to worry about any Mayan predictions for quite some time to come. This makes absolutely no sense. What do you mean by "our history"? Are you saying that Mayan historical time is not consistent with european historical time? Are you saying that a bunch of people wrote about a bunch of stuff that never happened? (You can't fake pre-historical time since our knowledge of this period is all based on concrete evidence). Look, the entire notion that our timeline should somehow be skewed is just preposterous, and once you know anything about history and how it is written you'll realize that it simply does not make sense. Also, doomsday predictions have been around forever and they have always, and will always, be wrong. Pretty much the only way I see humanity coming to an end within the next billion years is if a bunch of aliens randomly decide to exist and that blowing up Earth would be a good idea. Which of course will not happen Sounds like a pretty good description of people like Kim Jong il or Ahmadinejad. Seriously, it is the rogue regimes with nukes that will cause the end of humanity. Nah, the moment Iran or NK fires a nuclear missile at anyone, the US and others will turn their entire country into a nuclear wasteland. At best you'd lose a few cities who were attacked first + agressor country. End of humanity requires two superpowers going balls out. Or the end of the Maya calender obviously The only two countries than can blow up the world right now are Russia and USA. I can hardly see Russia blow up more than chechenia and maybe Ukraine,....i can see USA blowing up everything though. But there are still more chances than Russia will nuke the shit out of chechenia before US make a move on the entire world :o What..? That was so much nonsense. Why would Russia want to blow up Ukraine? Or why would they blow up Chechnya? Chechnya is part of Russia and i hardly believe a country will fire nuclear missiles onto muslim extremists inside their own country. Your claims are retarded. And what do you mean by ''hardly see Russia blow up more then Chechenia and maybe Ukraine,.... i can see USA blowing up everything though'' Do you think Russia doesn't have enough firepower?? Or are you claiming America is gonna blow up everything because they are reckless..? I agree on the Chechnya part,it's unlikely they nuke it,just carpet bomb it to the ground.(wait theyre already doing it ) Russian have very tense relations with ex USSR members,and they had a big problem with Ukraine 2-3 years ago if i remember correctly about gazprom and gaz being delivered to Ukraine.The tension was so high that at some point Ukraine turned to EU(and US i think)for *military support* if it was to go to another level,to which everybody answered:fu were not going to war with Russia over a shitty country like yours(or something in those lines) and forced Ukraine to agree with Russia and pay shitload of money for gaz they maybe never had. Russia was also pretty angry with Ukraine wanting to join the NATO a while ago.I think Ukraine was pretty much the center of the US anti-missile shield in Europe,which pissed off the russians even more. Russia has almost double of US nukes,so the firepower is on their side;) As for the US part,sure theyre not going to blow up something in the next 5 years.....wait til meatheads come to Washington,China takes world lead and expect a very agressive response from the US;) Uhm carpetbomb? They are currently trying to rebuild the destroyed cities and any initial hostility comes from terrorists... Ukraine never received the gas??? EUROPE received the gas. The gas comes from Russia, goes trough Ukraine to Europe. They didn't pay their bills to Russia. The tension was that Russia could stop the gas coming to Ukraine, meaning Europe would have sirious trouble. Edit; ofcourse the Russians got pissed off over the missile defense system. Do you think Russia is retarded? Its to protect Europe from ''threats of the middle east''. Bullshit. When Russia tried this shit back in the cold war (sending missiles to Cuba) the situation almost escalated into total war.
hum no,the problem was that Ukraine kept gaz that was intended for other EU countries for domestical use,while denying it(they later confessed).
Another problem was that after that crisis was over,EU countries and Ukraine did not receive the gaz they paid for(or less).
Oh yeah and there was ANOTHER problem with Ukraine,they wanted to buy less gaz than previously agreed.
Oh and ANOTHER problem,they did not pay their bills.
Ukraine is going down first,let me tell you <.<
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On November 13 2010 01:31 SlayerOfYou wrote:
Ok people, listen I graduated at the UofArizona in History. One might ask what does the past have to do with any predictions of the future. Well a few things that might be relevant are one of the most infamous people to make the prediction, Nostradamus, that the world would end in 2012 did so before Julius Caesar even implemented the Julian Calender. That is important for several reasons, first his calender and our present day calender would differ, therefore making the years 2012 fall on different days because the Christian faith had not yet been adopted in Rome by Constantine, and was not yet widely popular as a faith around that time period. It would have been impossible to choose the year 2012, when the calender before was not based off when a certain messiah died.
Didn't Nostradamus live like 1500 years after Julius Caesar? I don't believe in all the end of the world predictions neither, but this is a strange way for a historian to prove a point.
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On November 13 2010 01:31 SlayerOfYou wrote:
Ok people, listen I graduated at the UofArizona in History. One might ask what does the past have to do with any predictions of the future. Well a few things that might be relevant are one of the most infamous people to make the prediction, Nostradamus, that the world would end in 2012 did so before Julius Caesar even implemented the Julian Calender. That is important for several reasons, first his calender and our present day calender would differ, therefore making the years 2012 fall on different days because the Christian faith had not yet been adopted in Rome by Constantine, and was not yet widely popular as a faith around that time period. It would have been impossible to choose the year 2012, when the calender before was not based off when a certain messiah died.
Also, yes the main reason people worry the world is going to end in 2012 is because of the Mayans. And although their astronomical research was way ahead of it's time, one must remember this was all before Gallileo invented the bifocal telescope. Yes they had astounding discoveries centuries ahead of their technology in the astronomical field, but still it is a very limited range to base it on when acknowledging their human eyesight handicap.
Modern Astronomers do say that a solar maxim will happen around the year of 2012, and I've also heard theories about the polar tides reversing. I'd like to know more but considering in Earth's longstanding history there have been solar maxims before i cant imagine this being the reason everything goes south *a little pun here*.
i dont know what history you studied but you obviously dont know shit about nostradamus and julius caesar.
please before you post something even more retarded check your sources.
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On November 13 2010 02:08 Toxi78 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 01:31 SlayerOfYou wrote:
Ok people, listen I graduated at the UofArizona in History. One might ask what does the past have to do with any predictions of the future. Well a few things that might be relevant are one of the most infamous people to make the prediction, Nostradamus, that the world would end in 2012 did so before Julius Caesar even implemented the Julian Calender. That is important for several reasons, first his calender and our present day calender would differ, therefore making the years 2012 fall on different days because the Christian faith had not yet been adopted in Rome by Constantine, and was not yet widely popular as a faith around that time period. It would have been impossible to choose the year 2012, when the calender before was not based off when a certain messiah died.
Also, yes the main reason people worry the world is going to end in 2012 is because of the Mayans. And although their astronomical research was way ahead of it's time, one must remember this was all before Gallileo invented the bifocal telescope. Yes they had astounding discoveries centuries ahead of their technology in the astronomical field, but still it is a very limited range to base it on when acknowledging their human eyesight handicap.
Modern Astronomers do say that a solar maxim will happen around the year of 2012, and I've also heard theories about the polar tides reversing. I'd like to know more but considering in Earth's longstanding history there have been solar maxims before i cant imagine this being the reason everything goes south *a little pun here*. i dont know what history you studied but you obviously dont know shit about nostradamus and julius caesar. please before you post something even more retarded check your sources.
Lol.
So much for the "I graduated from UofArizona."
I just think any of this "solar maxim" or "reversing polar tides" is just... hyped up. For instance, if a polar tide happens, then... yeah, it would be increased earthquakes, more erupting volcanoes, etc (kind of like a meteorite crashing, if it's a huge polar tide reversal). At any rate, I don't think it will be anything extreme, nor do I believe in any of this 2012 myth-rumor-hype-bs.
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On November 13 2010 01:31 SlayerOfYou wrote:
Ok people, listen I graduated at the UofArizona in History. One might ask what does the past have to do with any predictions of the future. Well a few things that might be relevant are one of the most infamous people to make the prediction, Nostradamus, that the world would end in 2012 did so before Julius Caesar even implemented the Julian Calender. That is important for several reasons, first his calender and our present day calender would differ, therefore making the years 2012 fall on different days because the Christian faith had not yet been adopted in Rome by Constantine, and was not yet widely popular as a faith around that time period. It would have been impossible to choose the year 2012, when the calender before was not based off when a certain messiah died.
Also, yes the main reason people worry the world is going to end in 2012 is because of the Mayans. And although their astronomical research was way ahead of it's time, one must remember this was all before Gallileo invented the bifocal telescope. Yes they had astounding discoveries centuries ahead of their technology in the astronomical field, but still it is a very limited range to base it on when acknowledging their human eyesight handicap.
Modern Astronomers do say that a solar maxim will happen around the year of 2012, and I've also heard theories about the polar tides reversing. I'd like to know more but considering in Earth's longstanding history there have been solar maxims before i cant imagine this being the reason everything goes south *a little pun here*.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus
you're welcome
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Y2k will make Skynet self aware and then we're all in deep shit.
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On November 12 2010 19:25 prOxi.Beater wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 14:43 Cel.erity wrote:
Many historians believe that 200-300 years of our history actually never existed, and it was actually a small segment of history which was expanded and exaggerated over time. This would put us closer to about 1700 AD in real time, meaning we won't have to worry about any Mayan predictions for quite some time to come. This makes absolutely no sense. What do you mean by "our history"? Are you saying that Mayan historical time is not consistent with european historical time? Are you saying that a bunch of people wrote about a bunch of stuff that never happened? (You can't fake pre-historical time since our knowledge of this period is all based on concrete evidence). Look, the entire notion that our timeline should somehow be skewed is just preposterous, and once you know anything about history and how it is written you'll realize that it simply does not make sense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time_hypothesis
Chill out, I don't know or even care whether it is true, but there are people who believe in it and know a lot more about history than you or me. I was merely presenting it as anecdotal, since the very idea of this thread is preposterous to begin with.
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On November 13 2010 04:23 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 19:25 prOxi.Beater wrote:On November 12 2010 14:43 Cel.erity wrote:
Many historians believe that 200-300 years of our history actually never existed, and it was actually a small segment of history which was expanded and exaggerated over time. This would put us closer to about 1700 AD in real time, meaning we won't have to worry about any Mayan predictions for quite some time to come. This makes absolutely no sense. What do you mean by "our history"? Are you saying that Mayan historical time is not consistent with european historical time? Are you saying that a bunch of people wrote about a bunch of stuff that never happened? (You can't fake pre-historical time since our knowledge of this period is all based on concrete evidence). Look, the entire notion that our timeline should somehow be skewed is just preposterous, and once you know anything about history and how it is written you'll realize that it simply does not make sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time_hypothesisChill out, I don't know or even care whether it is true, but there are people who believe in it and know a lot more about history than you or me. I was merely presenting it as anecdotal, since the very idea of this thread is preposterous to begin with.
Yeah i joined the thread , giving a disclaimer on SEVERAL posts that I was merely playing devils advocate , yet still had some overtly trollish-intellectually-lacking -individuals try in an euphemistically-pathetic fashion to insult me , seems you got a similar response . ,
As far as the " phantom time-line hypothesis " is concerned , I have heard of it , as clever as it is , Dendrochronology completely discredits it , as well as astronomical observations , such as solar and lunar eclipses ,, viewed by several different cultures spanning at least 3 continents , and written about in historical observations , these make the theory untenable ( I am sure there are more ways to reliably discredit it than this ) .
However I stole the concept and am using it in a manuscript currently being worked on , ( science fiction many yeas in the future 
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On November 13 2010 03:53 clementdudu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 01:31 SlayerOfYou wrote:
Ok people, listen I graduated at the UofArizona in History. One might ask what does the past have to do with any predictions of the future. Well a few things that might be relevant are one of the most infamous people to make the prediction, Nostradamus, that the world would end in 2012 did so before Julius Caesar even implemented the Julian Calender. That is important for several reasons, first his calender and our present day calender would differ, therefore making the years 2012 fall on different days because the Christian faith had not yet been adopted in Rome by Constantine, and was not yet widely popular as a faith around that time period. It would have been impossible to choose the year 2012, when the calender before was not based off when a certain messiah died.
Also, yes the main reason people worry the world is going to end in 2012 is because of the Mayans. And although their astronomical research was way ahead of it's time, one must remember this was all before Gallileo invented the bifocal telescope. Yes they had astounding discoveries centuries ahead of their technology in the astronomical field, but still it is a very limited range to base it on when acknowledging their human eyesight handicap.
Modern Astronomers do say that a solar maxim will happen around the year of 2012, and I've also heard theories about the polar tides reversing. I'd like to know more but considering in Earth's longstanding history there have been solar maxims before i cant imagine this being the reason everything goes south *a little pun here*. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus you're welcome
Wikipedia isn't a viable source of fact.
You're welcome.
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On November 13 2010 06:29 Ympulse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 03:53 clementdudu wrote:On November 13 2010 01:31 SlayerOfYou wrote:
Ok people, listen I graduated at the UofArizona in History. One might ask what does the past have to do with any predictions of the future. Well a few things that might be relevant are one of the most infamous people to make the prediction, Nostradamus, that the world would end in 2012 did so before Julius Caesar even implemented the Julian Calender. That is important for several reasons, first his calender and our present day calender would differ, therefore making the years 2012 fall on different days because the Christian faith had not yet been adopted in Rome by Constantine, and was not yet widely popular as a faith around that time period. It would have been impossible to choose the year 2012, when the calender before was not based off when a certain messiah died.
Also, yes the main reason people worry the world is going to end in 2012 is because of the Mayans. And although their astronomical research was way ahead of it's time, one must remember this was all before Gallileo invented the bifocal telescope. Yes they had astounding discoveries centuries ahead of their technology in the astronomical field, but still it is a very limited range to base it on when acknowledging their human eyesight handicap.
Modern Astronomers do say that a solar maxim will happen around the year of 2012, and I've also heard theories about the polar tides reversing. I'd like to know more but considering in Earth's longstanding history there have been solar maxims before i cant imagine this being the reason everything goes south *a little pun here*. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus you're welcome Wikipedia isn't a viable source of fact. You're welcome.
he was just using it to point out when Nostradamus lived, I can't find any information that puts Nostradamus before Julius, so for all intents and purposes wikipedia is a reliable source for this
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By the way no one bothered to look at this or respond to any of these posts that have scientific support to the LaVioletts theories I posted and I will edit in again once more after the following link below , ,, If you want to use this as a platform for an ill-informed , ignorant response , at an attempt to make yourselves seem superior , please just save it .
http://hken.ibtimes.com/articles/80501/20101110/milky-way-galaxy-milky-way-galaxy-bubbles-nasa-constellation-constellation-virgo-constellation-grus.htm
This news was provided in another Tl thread but corresponds directly to my previous post which i will edit in below this first link momentarily . Ironically not a single person has responded to this extremely relevant link and simultaneously incredible physics news .
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life is too short as it is last thing I need is some crazy people saying the world is going to end and kill us off even sooner
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but you have the time to make a one liner post , not relevant to anything being discussed , ironic
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