Any methods? I really want to grow to at least 5'11!!
How to grow taller?
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Any methods? I really want to grow to at least 5'11!! | ||
Pressure
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at least thats what strafe told me and hes like 202cm (6 8) im 5 5 its ok man T.T | ||
itzme_petey
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XDawn
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ZZangDreamjOy
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I'm about 204 cm. I drink ALOT of milk. ![]() | ||
DarkYoDA
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Skittled
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Um, my brother is pretty tall. He's a little younger than me. At 13 he's already 5'6, we think it's because he started swimming at age 5. I started around age 13, so maybe swimming helps. Milk definitely, and just don't worry too much about it. | ||
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MaRiNe23
United States747 Posts
Edit: wow..six people already replied as i was writing this xD | ||
Schones_Chaos
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I am 5' 9" at 15 (just turned 15) | ||
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Korea (South)693 Posts
On August 04 2007 22:53 Schones_Chaos wrote: You know the vitamins your parents tell you to take as a kid? they work. I am 5' 9" at 15 (just turned 15) Seriously...people younger than me are so much taller haha | ||
fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height#Determinants_of_growth_and_height Milk is no more important than other food with nutrients. Unless you severely neglect your diet, nutrition shouldnt really impact your height. | ||
Wizard
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FirstProbe
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chances are your growth plates have more or less fused... by the way, did you know that girls tend to be taller at a younger age (c.f. boys), yet end up shorter? - thats cos of estrogen! (both bits) | ||
Pressure
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wow this is great | ||
Flying_Llama
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I guess sometimes ur height is kinda based on luck so even if you dunt grow, dont get too upset cuz theres prob lots of ppl in the world dats shorter/ just like u. | ||
LonelyMargarita
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As for anecdotal evidence: I'm not sure that I have first hand experience with this - I didn't start lifting and running a lot until I was 14, but that IS when I stopped growing. I'm at least 4 inches shorter than every other male relative 1 generation above me (3 uncles and father), and I know my dad grew until he was 20. I personally believe I'm short because of a bone disorder (can't spell the name - tibia extending laterally instead of vertically at the knee) I had around 12 combined with hyperthyroidism. Milk didn't help me much...I drank it with 3 meals a day growing up, and now drink 2-3 quarts a day. I'd suggest making sure you are getting a balanced diet, ENOUGH calories, protein, and calcium, and taking a multivitamin. | ||
boghat
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stuthedog
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thedeadhaji
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I'd never do it though. Btw, you need to sleep a lot. | ||
SayaSP
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On August 04 2007 22:48 Pressure wrote: milk at least thats what strafe told me and hes like 202cm (6 8) im 5 5 its ok man T.T But Pressure, you're like 13 keke. | ||
FirstProbe
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On August 04 2007 23:04 Flying_Llama wrote: Its pretty funny, some people in my highschool take growing pills that dont do shit. It's just sad, they're so obsessed with their height and stuff and i think sometimes you just gotta accept it. I heard that your height is mainly based on ur genes, diet, excersize and stuff like that. But im not too sure about the genes part because both my parents are kinda average/short (5'8 and 5'5) and I'm 6'0 at 15 so...i duno. You should swim or play basketball and get alot of calcium. I just play alotta sports n i used to take calcium pills which help alot imo.... I guess sometimes ur height is kinda based on luck so even if you dunt grow, dont get too upset cuz theres prob lots of ppl in the world dats shorter/ just like u. so errr, who's your real dad? | ||
HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
All this crap about milk. I drank tons of milk every day, and I'm only 5'9" damn it. | ||
L!MP
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red.venom
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On August 04 2007 23:00 FirstProbe wrote: tough luck buddy chances are your growth plates have more or less fused... by the way, did you know that girls tend to be taller at a younger age (c.f. boys), yet end up shorter? - thats cos of estrogen! (both bits) I grew about 2-3 inches from 17-19. I think dude could easily grow a little more. However it is all genetics imo. I didnt play sports after first year of high school(And never when I was little), drank soda and ate horrible food and im 6'. | ||
Nickisonfire
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PissedOffEmo
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HappyFeetO_O
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![]() There is no way to seriously grow taller. It's your genes, if you're 17 and the nutrients etc that you've eaten in your earlier years haven't made you grow any taller you're probably done. | ||
Jonoman92
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AutumnLight
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fig_newbie
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Don't expect it to do more than that though; if your genetic maximum height is 5'7 dont expect milk to make you any taller. Haji mentioned some hormone therapy, but its prohibitively expensive and its usually reserved for people who really need it. You will continue to grow until about 21, when your epiphyseal plates fuse, so don't stress too much, you have some time to grow still. Also, if you've seen Gattaca, there really are procedures that break your shins and force them apart to encourage bone growth in between. You'l probably be bedridden for a year and be in excruciating pain and have a fucked up immune system, but its doable. Not really recommended though. | ||
stuthedog
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merz
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I don't know how long 5"7 is. But I'm relatively short too, i'm around 176 centimeters tall. | ||
SoLaR[i.C]
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InfeSteD
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Its genetics dude | ||
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YvoRoK
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A lot of it depends on genetics and how well you ate in childhood. If you're 17, I'm afraid there isn't much you can do (without of crazy steroids), to "force" your growth at this point. But 5'7 isn't that short. | ||
spetial
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edit: PAGE TWO....YAHHHHHHH ZEAL! | ||
Aurious
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XCetron
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On August 05 2007 00:55 HellAngel wrote: Use one of those stretching torture devices and drink milk. once your bones are stretched the calcium will settle in the cracks and bam, additional height. I dont actually think that would work though, | ||
yubee
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
How about some HGH? | ||
Blind
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fig_newbie
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On August 05 2007 00:23 stuthedog wrote: all your theories about growing up in 3rd world countries as causes of height SUCK. how the hell do you explain Africa where everyone's starving and they're still growin up to be 6 feet and over?? I referenced the third world/underdeveloped countries because they are noted for nutritional deficiencies, high prevalence of parasites and other environmental effects that limit an individual from attaining their maximum potential height. If you developed parasitic infections in California and/or subsided on a nutritionally inadequate diet, you can bet your ass your body isn't going to reach its maximum potential. I don't see how you can even argue this. If you're starving in Africa and you're over 6 feet tall, you either have the genetics that allow you to be tall, or have a GH disorder. This does not mean that person has reached their fullest height, and I'm pretty sure I already said something to that effect. For reference: http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/resolve?id=doi:10.1086/318090&erFrom=-2446693321904345689Guest http://oep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/58/3/450 http://grande.nal.usda.gov/ibids/index.php?mode2=detail&origin=ibids_references&therow=269504 30 seconds on google scholar. Its funny how much a little research can do. I hope this was enlightening to you. I realize you're being hesitant to accept what people are saying on the internet, but try to be smarter and check the facts before you say they "SUCK". So that, you know, you don't stay stupid. PS Travis I hope that wasn't directed at me, otherwise this applies to you too. | ||
McBeef
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TheFoReveRwaR
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evanthebouncy!
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Really nothing wrong with it. Goku was 5'7'' and I'm sure he'll kick anyone's butt easily. | ||
dementus
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TheFoReveRwaR
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On August 05 2007 01:33 dementus wrote: ask strafe. are you by any chance stockily built? you should trade info with him. Oh yes, because strafe is an expert in biology and child development ![]() By the way please, would you people mentioning posture, explain how posture would help someone GROW taller? Obviously standing up straight will help you be a little taller, but it will do nothing for how one grows. | ||
dementus
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i'm still shocked that he's 202 fucking centimetres tall. christ. (i have no idea what that is in imperial. 6 feet 6? i dunno.) | ||
TheFoReveRwaR
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lingwu
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TheFoReveRwaR
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On August 04 2007 22:56 fusionsdf wrote: Genetic potential plus nutrition minus stressors is a basic formula. Genetically speaking, the heights of mother and son and of father and daughter correlate, suggesting that a short mother will more likely bear a shorter son, and tall fathers will have tall daughters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height#Determinants_of_growth_and_height Milk is no more important than other food with nutrients. Unless you severely neglect your diet, nutrition shouldnt really impact your height. Congradulations on being one of the few intelligent posters in this thread. Oh and Haji, hes right about doctors being able to do something with hormones for patients who haven't entered puberty yet. Heres why: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituitary_gland Its responsible for growth as well as most of the changes encountered during puberty. Keep in mind that only a quack would use a intense hormone therapy such as this on someone like you ![]() | ||
YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
...unless you guys were joking, but there were a bunch of guys who said that. | ||
Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
I had alot of problems with this because of some stupid rare disease when i was very young so the doctors told me i won't get past 1.50m unless i follow treatments. And so, with the luck of having great parents i followed 6 years of treatment with growth hormones (my epiphysis and hypophysis weren't working well) and oh well, i reached 1.70, i'm not tall but i'm quite satisfied with myself. | ||
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arew
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Naib
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RowdierBob
Australia13006 Posts
I think is pretty much genetic. There's no real formula for growing taller short of radical surgery! | ||
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Bockit
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On August 05 2007 02:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: By the way, everyone who suggested milk as a way of growing taller is a tool. Ok I feel better now. Thankyou! I was getting scared for a while there...this thread has to be an all-time low. | ||
Krohm
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I'm 6'3, and I have been since I was 17. However From 13 -17 I went from 5'4 - 6'3. | ||
Piste
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ErlinG
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but eating stuff u are supposed to eat like red meat, fish, white meat and not garbage like sugar and most stuff that contains carbohydrates probably help. Thou this is 99% genes obviously | ||
Romance_us
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QuanticHawk
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Yogurt
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With increased job anxiety in China’s market economy, more Chinese men and women are opting for painful body-lengthening procedures to get taller. A June 2005 report on China Radio International updated the 2002 News of the Weird story, in which “hundreds” were enduring the months-long “Ilizarov procedure” (forced breaking of bones in the leg, then manually adjusting leg braces four times a day that pull the bones slightly apart, then waiting as they grow back and fuse together). As a 33-year-old, 5-foot-tall woman (aiming for 5-4) said in 2002: “I’ll have a better job, a better boyfriend, and eventually a better husband. It’s a long-term investment.” | ||
FireBlast!
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Broken.Mind
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fig_newbie
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On August 05 2007 01:25 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: All that can be done to affect your height is to simply eat a proper diet, and avoid serious diease/infection. and follow it up with: By the way, everyone who suggested milk as a way of growing taller is a tool. Ok I feel better now. Milk qualifies as part of a "proper diet" | ||
SChasu
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stuthedog
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so it must be 90 percent genetic and 10 percent environmental if you ask me. cuz those africans are starving and theyre still freaking tall whereas hispanic and asian countries eat enough but are short. also i think the food in mexican and southern chinese cooking attributes to the short height cuz northern chinese are taller than southern chinese who have different cooking styles. wikpedia said that much of the growth depends on like when youre a baby to 3 years old and in your early teens. so i guess do the best you can to eat and eat well cuz itll help out 10 percent but i have this cousin who drank lotsa milk and ate fairly regularly and is only 5'5". his parents are actually pretty shorter than my parents, 5'5" for his dad, 5' for his mom compared to 5'6.5" for my dad and same for my mom. btw, my brother is about an inch taller than me and i think this is due to the fact he ate better in his teens than i did. i was too busy experimenting with drugs than eating for about two years =/ | ||
thoraxe
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On August 04 2007 23:15 CaucasianAsian wrote: i'm 6'1 and i never drank milk until very recently. my dad is 5'11 and my mom is like 5'4. i'm the tallest person in my family. ![]() Hey me too! btw OP, no offense but your Korean, Asian people tend to be smaller. | ||
QuanticHawk
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fig_newbie
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On August 05 2007 09:36 Hawk wrote: this is hilarious, all the people saying that diet has an impact. the only time i ever drank milk was with cereal and im 6'2. it is 100% genetics, nothing else Since you're from the US you really should understand that youre getting whatever proteins, vitamins, sugars and minerals you need to grow properly. Dietary factors don't matter much when you're in a developed nation and you can eat anything you want. In fact, you're probably getting too much of it, the ways things are going here chances are you're gonna end up obese. I'm sure after scarfing down that bowl of milk and cereal you ended up eating a hamburger later in the day, yes? Is this so difficult to understand? How often do you pull worms out of your ass? Or have to live on water and rice for days at a time? How many people do you know have rickets or other nutritional deficiencies? Height is a KNOWN marker for nutritional health, and environmental factors WILL affect your height. Genetics will never will be 100% of who you are. It can set guidelines and limits, but for the most part people's environmental influences will prevent them from reaching those limits anyways. In the OP's case, I do not know what people eat in Korea and if hes actually eating the right foods to help him reach his full height. Milk is always a good place to start. Don't keep your hopes up though, because I don't think Korea is doing as badly as rural China in terms of diet. You're probably doing everything you can to grow your best already. | ||
BigSausage
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Flying_Llama
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geometryb
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useLess
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evanthebouncy!
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On August 05 2007 01:47 lingwu wrote: eat more SEAFOOD,, FISH MEAT,,, i thinks that what works for japanese anyways. Japanese and Tall normally don't go in the same sentence. | ||
Vin{MBL}
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On August 05 2007 10:22 evanthebouncy! wrote: Japanese and Tall normally don't go in the same sentence. except in the rush hour 3 trailer | ||
fig_newbie
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On August 05 2007 10:03 BigSausage wrote: its genetics. nutritions will hardly give u any height boost if u r short. asians r shorter i ngeneral. white and blacks r taller. I'm going to suggest something completely unscientific here. 1. Find an Asian born and raised in the US. 2. Ask him if hes ever been to his country. Ask him if hes taller than people there (Japan and Singapore wont count). 3. Repeat with every Asian you meet. I'm pretty sure you'll end up finding Asian Americans are as a whole taller than their counterparts in Asia, even among their family. The difference isn't as pronounced now as it was 10 years ago as food is a lot easier to come by even in the poorest areas and sanitation has increased dramatically, but it should still be noticeable. What does this mean? In layman's terms, the people you find here and their comparison groups have been matched on many genetic factors by virtue of their nationality. They are essentially, for the purpose of this exercise, identical genetically. So why the height difference? Logically, the only thing differentiating the person you found and people from his country of origin is environmental (e.g. diet). You can repeat this for many people coming from an underdeveloped, malnourished state (and no, Europe doesn't count as underdeveloped) and the results will be very similar. | ||
xM(Z
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fig_newbie
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On August 05 2007 10:37 xM(Z wrote: fig_newbie if you can prove that backwards you have a point. explain por favor? | ||
azndsh
United States4447 Posts
where do i dl better genes? | ||
fig_newbie
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On August 05 2007 10:55 azndsh wrote: where do i dl ram? where do i dl better genes? you can start by having strafe man-love you | ||
jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
i used to be REALLY obsessed.. and even now, i\'m a bit insecure sometimes but i\'ve learned to accept it, for some reason, when you just appreciate what you have, the things you now perceive just change so you arent as worried in sports or around other guys or talking to a girl when you learn to just take care of your body for what it is rather than changing it, then you\'ll grow inside, lol.. its corny but its true and this shit works, i\'ve seen 5\'6 guys.. like fugly asian guys with HOT TALL WHITE GIRLS oh fuck, i want a hot white girl =] | ||
Aotearoa
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Magicbox
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On August 05 2007 00:40 travis wrote: i love how much bullshit people just randomly spew out like they know what they're talking about It's all about (99%) genes. Unless you have a serious crap diet it will not effect your height gains. And by serious crap diet I mean you're really really getting malnutritioned. Lifting weights will not stunt growht either, unless you're lifting really heavy weights with really bad form. And even then it's not given that it will stunt growth. | ||
Bladox
Canada763 Posts
Height is mostly genetic.... Don`t train too hard until you are 18-20 LIke training in a gym 5 days/week doing mostly musculation isnt good it can reduce your potentiel height. Other than that keep a straight posture... My brother and I are both 6``2 and we never drink milk... | ||
Kreeeee
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stuthedog
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fig_newbie
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On August 05 2007 12:11 Kreeeee wrote: It's genetic, GG! i give up -_-;; | ||
Magicbox
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On August 05 2007 12:12 stuthedog wrote: hey so why the hell are gymnasts so short?? are they like heavy weight lifting or is it all that high knee impact exercises they do or all both? do they keep em malnourished? That has probably something to do with hormonic suppression, which actually is a factor in growing. This can limit your potential height. | ||
Kreeeee
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You have no proof or sources, so it is inevitable that you will give up as you have no solid argument. | ||
fig_newbie
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On August 05 2007 12:18 Kreeeee wrote: You have no proof or sources, so it is inevitable that you will give up as you have no solid argument. What the fuck are you talking about. Read the wiki text given by fusiondf and the sources I cited earlier in this thread. Idiot. | ||
BigSausage
Canada194 Posts
On August 05 2007 10:30 fig_newbie wrote: I'm going to suggest something completely unscientific here. 1. Find an Asian born and raised in the US. 2. Ask him if hes ever been to his country. Ask him if hes taller than people there (Japan and Singapore wont count). 3. Repeat with every Asian you meet. I'm pretty sure you'll end up finding Asian Americans are as a whole taller than their counterparts in Asia, even among their family. The difference isn't as pronounced now as it was 10 years ago as food is a lot easier to come by even in the poorest areas and sanitation has increased dramatically, but it should still be noticeable. What does this mean? In layman's terms, the people you find here and their comparison groups have been matched on many genetic factors by virtue of their nationality. They are essentially, for the purpose of this exercise, identical genetically. So why the height difference? Logically, the only thing differentiating the person you found and people from his country of origin is environmental (e.g. diet). You can repeat this for many people coming from an underdeveloped, malnourished state (and no, Europe doesn't count as underdeveloped) and the results will be very similar. dude so what, they eat better, so a little bit taller than their home grown counter part is logical, but what i said its compared to white and blacks, asians r short as fuck. and dont bring yao ming and shit into the discussion, they dont represent the likes of average chinese or asian | ||
lastshadow
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fig_newbie
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On August 05 2007 12:43 BigSausage wrote: dude so what, they eat better, so a little bit taller than their home grown counter part is logical, but what i said its compared to white and blacks, asians r short as fuck. and dont bring yao ming and shit into the discussion, they dont represent the likes of average chinese or asian Thanks for agreeing with the diet. That was the only point I was trying to get across. The reasons as to why whites and blacks are taller than Asians are more complicated, so I didn't even bother addressing it. | ||
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fig_newbie
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On August 05 2007 12:52 Physician wrote: the only way is to find a doctor, that knows what his doing - an endocirnologist if possible, that is willing to use growth hormone on u.. you don't have much time though - it has to be this year ~ Are you seriously advocating this? | ||
BigSausage
Canada194 Posts
On August 05 2007 12:48 fig_newbie wrote: Thanks for agreeing with the diet. That was the only point I was trying to get across. The reasons as to why whites and blacks are taller than Asians are more complicated, so I didn't even bother addressing it. the reason is genetics, its not diet. ppl r not equal, if u r naive enough to believe anything can be accomplished by giving same shit to every1, then y do blacks always hold the fastest time in 100m, no other races have been able to even break the 10s barrier. | ||
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Korea (South)1497 Posts
On August 05 2007 12:57 BigSausage wrote: the reason is genetics, its not diet. ppl r not equal, if u r naive enough to believe anything can be accomplished by giving same shit to every1, then y do blacks always hold the fastest time in 100m, no other races have been able to even break the 10s barrier. Because they have BigSausages? | ||
PissedOffEmo
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Aepplet
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fbs
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On August 05 2007 12:43 lastshadow wrote: if you whore calcium for about 6 months, you can grow a max of 4 inches. Medical breakthrough on TL! | ||
xM(Z
Romania5281 Posts
do americans that live in asia grow shorter? black people living in asia would, in time, have shorter dicks? | ||
Kreeeee
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On August 05 2007 15:35 xM(Z wrote: do americans that live in asia grow shorter? black people living in asia would, in time, have shorter dicks? Oof, that's gotta hurt! | ||
Sir Rexus Henk
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fig_newbie
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On August 05 2007 15:35 xM(Z wrote: do americans that live in asia grow shorter? black people living in asia would, in time, have shorter dicks? Really? Are you being serious? I mean, you can do this in your own home too. You don't have to go to Asia. Just feed your kid white rice, give him some dirty water (make sure its brackish and opaque, shouldn't be too hard if you take a shit in it beforehand), "forget" his vaccinations, and otherwise emulate the provincial life of a Chinese/Indian/Laos/Filipino farmer. Be sure to expose him to lead paint chips and put a couple drops of arsenic in his sewer water for good measure. I'm sure he'll grow up fine and dandy. Maybe even be taller than you! | ||
fig_newbie
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On August 05 2007 12:57 BigSausage wrote: the reason is genetics, its not diet. ppl r not equal, if u r naive enough to believe anything can be accomplished by giving same shit to every1, then y do blacks always hold the fastest time in 100m, no other races have been able to even break the 10s barrier. Sausage I think you're either confusing my point with what some other folks here are saying or I didnt elaborate it enough. Genetics gives you a limit. A white guy whose maximum potential for speed is 11 seconds on a 100m can never beat a black guy whose maximum potential for speed is 10 seconds. But dietary factors, and environmental factors combine to skew this also. If you take that same 10 second black guy from birth, give him a multitude of parasitic infections, say, malaria, feed him shit for years, and have him race a white guy who has completely healthy lifestyle of diet and medical checkups, will, with equal training, lose. His body will not have grown to its best, he will NOT have attained his physical peak and may end up running a 11.5, which is still decent for most people. Keep in mind there will always be superior individuals who can outclass a lot of people even with a crap nutrition, but a perfect diet and a perfect environment will make that person even better. This applies with height, and virtually every human characteristic you can imagine. I don't understand how this is so hard to comprehend. | ||
BigSausage
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fig_newbie
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On August 05 2007 17:07 BigSausage wrote: the whole thing is genetics. u cant get fucking taller by drinking milk and whore calcium from birth to death, the growth would be too small without the genetics factor. just face the reality, u r what u r, u cant change shit about it. all u can do is move forward with what u have or blame ur parents for shitty genetics. What reality are you telling me to face? I'm educating you son. You can get taller by "drinking milk and calcium whoring", as opposed to drinking only water and being calcium deficient. Or, to put it another way since your mind seems a bit too simple to comprehend, you can end up SHORTER than your genetic height by having a bad diet. The world is so much larger than your hamburger-saturated environment (or should I say big-sausage-saturated *insert gay joke here*) and not everyone has access to foods that will give them the proper building blocks to grow. | ||
TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On August 05 2007 08:52 fig_newbie wrote: How can you say : and follow it up with: Milk qualifies as part of a "proper diet" Because its extremely easy to get the protein and calcium you need without drinking milk at all. I'm just laughing at the people who speifically suggested drinking milk as a way of getting taller. | ||
TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On August 05 2007 12:18 Magicbox wrote: That has probably something to do with hormonic suppression, which actually is a factor in growing. This can limit your potential height. LMAO. Actually its because its easier to be a good gymnast if you're short. Balance is key to being a good gymnast as well as muscle ratio to total body mass. If you're short both of these are easier because your center of gravity is lower and obviously if you're shorter you have less body mass to lift. As a result most of the best gymnists are short. | ||
nemY
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Flying_Llama
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and yes i agree with Fig, diet plays a big part in your growth. Oh yea stress also can effect ur height cuz ppl in asia (china specifically) do a shit load of hw a day(6 hrs prob) and dunt ever get a chance to get excersize | ||
xM(Z
Romania5281 Posts
On August 05 2007 16:55 fig_newbie wrote: Really? Are you being serious? I mean, you can do this in your own home too. You don't have to go to Asia. Just feed your kid white rice, give him some dirty water (make sure its brackish and opaque, shouldn't be too hard if you take a shit in it beforehand), "forget" his vaccinations, and otherwise emulate the provincial life of a Chinese/Indian/Laos/Filipino farmer. Be sure to expose him to lead paint chips and put a couple drops of arsenic in his sewer water for good measure. I'm sure he'll grow up fine and dandy. Maybe even be taller than you! can you tell me about a time in history when the chinese people were tall? i doubt that what you said is relevant to lets say ming dynasty. i somewhat agree with you but your emphasis on environment over genetics is wrong. | ||
fig_newbie
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No, I dont know any specific time in history when Chinese people are taller than they are now. I dont know of any racial group in history that are taller than modern cohorts. From what I've gleaned from casual reading, people now are taller than they've ever been, the reason being better sanitation, diet, and medical interventions. I don't emphasize environment over genetics and I apologize if it came off that way but I was just trying to shunt the avalanche of bullshit that claimed height is 100% genetic. The truth is, it really depends on how much of each (genetics, environment) you're getting. If you have a pituitary tumor (lets classify this as a genetics) ala Robert Wadlow, you're going to be growing at an obscene rate, maybe 3-4 inches a year. Your body needs to adapt to that, you'll be constantly hungry and eating to sustain that growth. Otherwise, it will be stymied (permanently if you starve to death, an extreme example but I hope this clarifies it more). Conversely, you can be born with achondroplasia (midgetry) and barring any hormonal intervention therapy, no matter how much you eat you're not going to exceed 5 feet. These are extreme examples, but they illustrate that neither genetics or environmental are 100% responsible for your height. They interact with each other. Your best bet to become taller is to try and alter your environmental influence because modern medicine doesn't have the means (yet) to change your genetic makeup. That means eating a good diet (such as drinking milk, which is the mother of nutritional growth foods), getting the essential nutrients, avoiding things that will chop your legs off, etc etc. | ||
BigSausage
Canada194 Posts
On August 05 2007 18:04 fig_newbie wrote: You're a lot more civil here than some of the other posters and I appreciate it. No, I dont know any specific time in history when Chinese people are taller than they are now. I dont know of any racial group in history that are taller than modern cohorts. From what I've gleaned from casual reading, people now are taller than they've ever been, the reason being better sanitation, diet, and medical interventions. I don't emphasize environment over genetics and I apologize if it came off that way but I was just trying to shunt the avalanche of bullshit that claimed height is 100% genetic. The truth is, it really depends on how much of each (genetics, environment) you're getting. If you have a pituitary tumor (lets classify this as a genetics) ala Robert Wadlow, you're going to be growing at an obscene rate, maybe 3-4 inches a year. Your body needs to adapt to that, you'll be constantly hungry and eating to sustain that growth. Otherwise, it will be stymied (permanently if you starve to death, an extreme example but I hope this clarifies it more). Conversely, you can be born with achondroplasia (midgetry) and barring any hormonal intervention therapy, no matter how much you eat you're not going to exceed 5 feet. These are extreme examples, but they illustrate that neither genetics or environmental are 100% responsible for your height. They interact with each other. Your best bet to become taller is to try and alter your environmental influence because modern medicine doesn't have the means (yet) to change your genetic makeup. That means eating a good diet (such as drinking milk, which is the mother of nutritional growth foods), getting the essential nutrients, avoiding things that will chop your legs off, etc etc. ur natural height is 100% genetically predetermined. drinking milk and other calcium supplements, and other nutrients will only give u so little. u not going to change a 5 foot wonder into a 5'9, 6'1 average dude. the most good diet, nutrition will give u is 1-2 inches, 3-4 at the extreme. i dont know where do ppl get this naiveness and idea that with good nutrition, short ppl will grow tall. i think we r confusing the term tall, grow tall as in 1-2 inches or grow taller like a foot or something. it is what it is, u dont have to say shit to make ppl feel better. otherwise there wouldnt be so many short asians, chinese and shit. even my white washed, born here canadian asian friends they r still short as fuck compared to some random 6'3 6'5 white dude. | ||
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Canada194 Posts
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SuicidalMania
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Funchucks
Canada2113 Posts
I love when people say, "Play basketball to grow taller!" Is that a running gag, or do people actually believe that? The best way to grow taller is to saw your femurs in half and install an expanding brace. Turn the screws a little every day and the bone will grow to fill in the gap. Just be careful of infection, or you'll end up a couple feet (and legs) shorter. Option 2: Human Growth Hormone (HGH). This has the added benefit of making your ears and nose look funny. Also, buying it from the shady suppliers you have access to as a non-legitimate medical case and a non-millionaire-athlete means you'll probably end up with something extracted from pregnant goat urine that makes your nipples grow out like fingers. Option 3: buy thick-soled shoes, find a nice short girl, and get the fuck over it. 5'7" isn't even especially short, and at 17 you'll probably still gain an inch or three. I was 5'7" at 16 (I know because my driver's license still says that), and now I'm around 5'10". If you want to maximize your growth, eat right, stay active, get enough sleep, live healthy, and don't stress over trivial shit like being a hair below average height. | ||
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United States4146 Posts
On August 05 2007 20:25 Funchucks wrote: Oh man... I love when people say, "Play basketball to grow taller!" Is that a running gag, or do people actually believe that? The best way to grow taller is to saw your femurs in half and install an expanding brace. Turn the screws a little every day and the bone will grow to fill in the gap. Just be careful of infection, or you'll end up a couple feet (and legs) shorter. Option 2: Human Growth Hormone (HGH). This has the added benefit of making your ears and nose look funny. Also, buying it from the shady suppliers you have access to as a non-legitimate medical case and a non-millionaire-athlete means you'll probably end up with something extracted from pregnant goat urine that makes your nipples grow out like fingers. Option 3: buy thick-soled shoes, find a nice short girl, and get the fuck over it. 5'7" isn't even especially short, and at 17 you'll probably still gain an inch or three. I was 5'7" at 16 (I know because my driver's license still says that), and now I'm around 5'10". If you want to maximize your growth, eat right, stay active, get enough sleep, live healthy, and don't stress over trivial shit like being a hair below average height. lol, not bad ~ | ||
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You won't grow as fast as when you were a kid, but some growth is possible. http://giantscientific.com/ is an entire community devoted to growing after puberty, a free, no bullshit guides to it, whether it be the insecure types or tall people wanting to grow taller (cough* me) I am still going through puberty but I aim to be 6'5, I am currently 5'7 so I have a long way to go. Alpha males ftw. I am posting this cause I think it will help all the short Asians out there..Good luck. | ||
fonger
United Kingdom1218 Posts
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
On August 04 2007 22:47 vstar wrote: I am a 17 year old guy but I believe my height isn't so tall compared to the rest of the people I know, or just with people in general. I am only 5'7 so I need serious help how to grow. I excercise every day so I am not like fat or anything ><;; Any methods? I really want to grow to at least 5'11!! self-confidence | ||
Pwntrucci[sR]
Canada1519 Posts
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
size 7(usa) and im almost 16 T_T | ||
Chef
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I am still going through puberty but I aim to be 6'5, I am currently 5'7 so I have a long way to go. Alpha males ftw. Ha... AAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHHA! ... Good luck ![]() | ||
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On August 29 2008 15:36 PsycHOTemplar wrote: Ha... AAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHHA! ... Good luck ![]() Life is all about false goals yo, haven't you heard? | ||
pH)ggbOy
Philippines142 Posts
On August 29 2008 15:02 ._. wrote: It is quite possible to grow after puberty. Although growth plates often close by the time you reach adulthood, it is still possible to gain an inch or two over a long period of time by artificially increasing your HGH level through a combination of intense exercise, sleep, nutrients, and stretching exercises. You won't grow as fast as when you were a kid, but some growth is possible. http://giantscientific.com/ is an entire community devoted to growing after puberty, a free, no bullshit guides to it, whether it be the insecure types or tall people wanting to grow taller (cough* me) I am still going through puberty but I aim to be 6'5, I am currently 5'7 so I have a long way to go. Alpha males ftw. I am posting this cause I think it will help all the short Asians out there..Good luck. Hope this works. Thanks for the link. My height is also my problem for like 3 years now. Im 21 and only 175. i wanna be at least 178. | ||
Resonate
United Kingdom8402 Posts
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
My father is 5'6 my mom is 5'0 and I'm 5'8. | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32054 Posts
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
On August 29 2008 15:02 ._. wrote: It is quite possible to grow after puberty. Although growth plates often close by the time you reach adulthood, it is still possible to gain an inch or two over a long period of time by artificially increasing your HGH level through a combination of intense exercise, sleep, nutrients, and stretching exercises. You won't grow as fast as when you were a kid, but some growth is possible. http://giantscientific.com/ is an entire community devoted to growing after puberty, a free, no bullshit guides to it, whether it be the insecure types or tall people wanting to grow taller (cough* me) I am still going through puberty but I aim to be 6'5, I am currently 5'7 so I have a long way to go. Alpha males ftw. I am posting this cause I think it will help all the short Asians out there..Good luck. Alpha males is not 6'5. 6'5 is FREAK. alpha male is 80% personality 20% looks to pull them off. | ||
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11579 Posts
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Sweden868 Posts
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United States5724 Posts
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Thailand7699 Posts
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Thailand7026 Posts
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United States14893 Posts
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Brazil448 Posts
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
The chemical for growth is released by the brain while you're asleep. If I knew that I'd have slept more back then. I'm still 5'11'' but could've been taller. | ||
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Thailand7026 Posts
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XCetron
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On August 30 2008 00:32 meegrean wrote: Mushrooms. seriously | ||
Durak
Canada3684 Posts
1) Coffee doesn't stunt your growth. I drank loads when I was 8-15 years old. 2) You can't go wrong with eating well. Eat good food, drink milk, and vitamins can't hurt. 3) Your height is basically genetic. Doubt there's any substantial thing you can do change it but you might as well try 2). All you can do is hope but being 5'10" isn't short unless you want to be a pro at some sports. | ||
Muggsy Bogues
United States1 Post
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daz
Canada643 Posts
On August 30 2008 02:02 Muggsy Bogues wrote: Play Basketball that sure as hell worked for mugsy bogues right? but seriously playing basketball is a horrible suggestion, it wont make you grow any taller and your gonna feel short as fuck because everyone around you will be tall | ||
Juanpe
Uruguay283 Posts
On August 04 2007 22:50 itzme_petey wrote: milk, basketball, and correct posture. | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
second, you need four equal lengths of rope. third, you need a friend who knows how to tie basic knots. | ||
Raithed
China7078 Posts
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KaasZerg
Netherlands927 Posts
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alphafuzard
United States1610 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
i cna't believe the sheer volume of people who suggest this. explain to me what i dont understand. i'm obviously ignorant. | ||
ZZangDreamjOy
Canada959 Posts
On August 30 2008 03:46 KaasZerg wrote: Yeah its the hormones in the Dutch milk lol. I used to drink a lot of it. I think the growth hormones in the meat are helping to. Bioengeneering rulez. Im 6"4 or 192 cm. That's not far of the avarage length here my age. Only the old people keeping the avarage down. It's just in the genes. My family originates from The Netherlands, and I'm about 6'8'' or 202-204 cm. haha :D | ||
YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
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YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
On August 04 2007 22:50 itzme_petey wrote: milk, basketball, and correct posture. LOL PETER BASKETBALL. | ||
Folca
2235 Posts
On August 29 2008 15:02 ._. wrote: I am posting this cause I think it will help all the short Asians out there..Good luck. Thanks | ||
ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
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pooper-scooper
United States3108 Posts
And how much money did the Dairy Farmers of America pay you people! Jesus, I've never seen so much milk propaganda! =) | ||
Pressure
7326 Posts
its been a year since i made my height post and im proud to say ive grown 1 inch SOMEOEN HELP ME IVE BEEN DRINKING MILK THE ENTIRE YEAR AND I ACTUALLY PICKED UP BASKETBALL ^ not even joking ![]() | ||
Luddite
United States2315 Posts
On August 30 2008 04:24 Pressure wrote: ![]() Aren't Koreans the tallest, on average, of all the Asian countries? Anyway, this is completely unrelated, but there's an HG wells story called The Food of the Gods about people who figure out a miracle baby food that lets people grow to be like 20 feet tall. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On August 30 2008 03:53 Mora wrote: how does playing basketball make you GROW TALLER? i cna't believe the sheer volume of people who suggest this. explain to me what i dont understand. i'm obviously ignorant. Black people are good at basketball. Black people are generally taller than white people. Ergo, basketball makes you tall. You're welcome. EDIT: Evidence would suggest it will also increase your penis size. | ||
Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On August 30 2008 04:30 FrozenArbiter wrote: Black people are good at basketball. Black people are generally taller than white people. Ergo, basketball makes you tall. You're welcome. EDIT: Evidence would suggest it will also increase your penis size. Indeed. i think it only fair of us to warn people then: BWEARE OF BASKETBALL, IT MAKES YOUR SKIN DARKER. | ||
ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
On August 30 2008 04:28 Luddite wrote: Of course they are, South Korea is the most financially well off of all the asian countries- well, to be honest, I guess Japan would take that, but in general, the more prosperous the country you live in, the taller you will be. Nonetheless, I think its just genetics that make Asians shorter, even in Canada, its very rare to see an Asian who's above, say, 5'8. Though I have seen it once or twice.Aren't Koreans the tallest, on average, of all the Asian countries? Anyway, this is completely unrelated, but there's an HG wells story called The Food of the Gods about people who figure out a miracle baby food that lets people grow to be like 20 feet tall. | ||
Folca
2235 Posts
On August 30 2008 05:10 ScarFace wrote: Of course they are, South Korea is the most financially well off of all the asian countries- well, to be honest, I guess Japan would take that, but in general, the more prosperous the country you live in, the taller you will be. Nonetheless, I think its just genetics that make Asians shorter, even in Canada, its very rare to see an Asian who's above, say, 5'8. Though I have seen it once or twice. rofl, I see 6'0 asians very much in the states | ||
Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
On August 30 2008 05:11 Folca wrote: rofl, I see 6'0 asians very much in the states same | ||
lesser_good
Canada698 Posts
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
On August 30 2008 05:11 Folca wrote: Really? Not in Canada, strange.rofl, I see 6'0 asians very much in the states | ||
memmypoker
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and it left him maybe little bit shorter than he would have been, without training. | ||
dream-_-
United States1857 Posts
my brother is 6 5 and he has been smoking/drinking/not exercising since he was 14, really doesnt make enough of a difference for you to change anything. | ||
liger13
United States1060 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
Oh whoops saw this in PX didn't know it was such an old thread! sorry for teh bump | ||
aZnvaLiaNce
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goldenkrnboi
United States3104 Posts
i'm 14, and i'm pretty close to 5'11"-6' so it's not all genetics. though i've only grown a total of about 2-3 inches in the past 2-3 years. | ||
new_construct
Canada1041 Posts
On September 04 2008 10:45 goldenkrnboi wrote: my mom is about 5'2", my dad is about 5'7", my sis is about 5'2". i'm 14, and i'm pretty close to 5'11"-6' so it's not all genetics. though i've only grown a total of about 2-3 inches in the past 2-3 years. maybe u r adopted. lol, but srsly, height is mainly genetic i think | ||
VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On September 04 2008 10:30 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Nah I'm only 178cm..how about a lot of masturbation? i heard that = faster testerone produced = more growth and pubes ![]() lol anyway why would anyone want to be tall unless you play some specific sport competitively? You'd just get shout at in the theater ![]() | ||
.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
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Instigata
United States546 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
That human growth hormone sounds like an extreme but desperate idea! that or you'd have to change your genes which is even more risky! | ||
Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
I'm 5' 11". Apparently it's like a miracle to my parents that I grew so tall -_- | ||
jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
my mom is like 5'2 my brother and i come from a pretty low class family so our diet is meh lol but he's 5'11 and i'm 5'8 (we're asian btw) i guess its genetics? diet sure helps too. | ||
Deleted User 3420
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On September 04 2008 10:45 goldenkrnboi wrote: my mom is about 5'2", my dad is about 5'7", my sis is about 5'2". i'm 14, and i'm pretty close to 5'11"-6' so it's not all genetics. though i've only grown a total of about 2-3 inches in the past 2-3 years. you obviously don't know how genetics work | ||
Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + A person's height is determined by how our genes interact with the environment. If you live in a healthy way, you will achieve your greatest potential height. The most important things you can do are to get plenty of sleep, exercise regularly, eat a well-balanced diet, and avoid alcohol and drugs. Your body will continue to get taller until the growth plates on your bones close. People stop growing at different ages. You might stop growing in your mid teens. Or you might continue growing into your twenties. How tall you get is mainly determined by how long your long bones are. If you believe you are not as tall as you should be, you might have have an absence of a growth hormone. Your doctor can run tests to find out if you lack this hormone. It's quite possible! I've found that some symptoms of this loss of growth hormone include arthritis and a severe changing of your facial features. i typed this question into google and got the answer on the first result google > random people on forums, unless u want to have a discussion, which means wading through crap | ||
2eZ4No1
United States4 Posts
my dad is 5'11 my mother is 5'7ish i was 5'2 then i grew to 5'8 in one summer(3monthes). so you wanna know how? i ate burgerking every other day...i ate like 5 eggs every day...drinking milk doesn't do anything that's like saying "if you wanna get smarter, eat brains..." milk does help but to a certain extent. Oh yeah when i grew 6inches 1 summer. i also gained like 10 pounds hahaha but then i worked out...just eat a shitload of food everyday dog | ||
Jizz
Australia224 Posts
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
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kemoryan
Spain1506 Posts
"Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a Dairy industry MYTH. " Article: http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=98 | ||
StrikeFLOW
United States369 Posts
On August 30 2008 05:11 Folca wrote: rofl, I see 6'0 asians very much in the states I agree. Two of my closest friends(chinese) are 6'2'' and 6'4'' respectively. I'm about 5'10''... I feel short even in my household since my father is 6'0'' and my sister is 5'9''. | ||
Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On September 04 2008 15:36 kemoryan wrote: Yeah, sure, drink a lot of milk. But before doing that please read this. "Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a Dairy industry MYTH. " Article: http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=98 You should try to find a source people are more likely to believe. Many will say "hey, this is peta's website - and discount anything it says". | ||
lxginverse
Monaco1506 Posts
it works for me since im 5'4" when i was 14 im 5'11" now and im 18 | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
it's been 2 years now and im STILL 6'1" and i've had a surplus of stress.. i don't remember the last time i drank 3 cups of milk in one day nor remember the last time i had time for 8 + hours of sleep; disregarding the times i pass out for 12 hours on weekends... and i excercise at least once a week.. not enough im guessing So ... 1.sleep 2. good health in general 3. no stress 4. exercise 5. Don't lift weights/ drink excess amounts of caffeine/ coffee ? just speculation | ||
Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
On September 04 2008 16:25 lxginverse wrote: get laid as often as you can.... lol it works for me since im 5'4" when i was 14 im 5'11" now and im 18 This is your logic? | ||
MaReK
Australia446 Posts
On September 04 2008 16:25 lxginverse wrote: get laid as often as you can.... lol it works for me since im 5'4" when i was 14 im 5'11" now and im 18 It couldn't of possibly been because your 4 years older? | ||
fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
On August 29 2008 15:02 ._. wrote: I am still going through puberty but I aim to be 6'5, I am currently 5'7 so I have a long way to go. This is actually pretty inspirational, lol. But we all know there is only one way to truly grow tall. You need to go to college, and get into the cybernetics field. Then in about 30 years, you will be one of the top researchers, and have access to new, yet secret, technologies. At that point, it is simply a matter of furthering your research with "human trials", namely on yourself. | ||
kemoryan
Spain1506 Posts
On September 04 2008 15:58 travis wrote: You should try to find a source people are more likely to believe. Many will say "hey, this is peta's website - and discount anything it says". Well, I dont really care if they believe me or not. It's up to them, I just put here the first site I found about the subject. If anyone drinks milk (or plans to) but is also interested in his/her own HEALTH, I guess that link is enough convincing to at least motivate them to do a bit more research by themselves. WHich was what my post was meant for (and who the heck is peta btw?). | ||
fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
On September 04 2008 17:57 kemoryan wrote: Well, I dont really care if they believe me or not. It's up to them, I just put here the first site I found about the subject. If anyone drinks milk (or plans to) but is also interested in his/her own HEALTH, I guess that link is enough convincing to at least motivate them to do a bit more research by themselves. WHich was what my post was meant for (and who the heck is peta btw?). I saw it was peta, and said "forget it". But then since you are talking about it, I decided to read it anyways. However, when it started out by talking about cows and their vanity, I just had to stop. That was in the second line. | ||
lxginverse
Monaco1506 Posts
its clear that it isnt :p | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 04 2008 15:58 travis wrote: You should try to find a source people are more likely to believe. Many will say "hey, this is peta's website - and discount anything it says". well, if PETA wasn't so batshit fucking crazy, they'd probably be a better source of information ![]() | ||
MadNeSs
Denmark1507 Posts
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Denmark996 Posts
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kemoryan
Spain1506 Posts
On September 04 2008 18:33 fight_or_flight wrote: I saw it was peta, and said "forget it". But then since you are talking about it, I decided to read it anyways. However, when it started out by talking about cows and their vanity, I just had to stop. That was in the second line. Well that doesn't necessarily mean that what it says about the effects of milk are true or not. I really don't care about cows and their vanity either... On September 04 2008 19:01 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: well, if PETA wasn't so batshit fucking crazy, they'd probably be a better source of information ![]() Ok I had no idea PETA is bullshit as you guys say. There are plenty other sources that reach the same conclusion (that cow milk is bad for your health). Here are some examples. http://www.notmilk.com/kradjian.html http://www.rense.com/general26/truth.htm Again, I don't know whether these sites are lying or not, but I can assure you that there are a lot of people that don't drink milk because they know it's bad, it's not just a stupid conspiracy. I'm not saying you can't drink any milk, all Im doing is warning the OP because many are recommending him to drink a lot of milk, which can really be unhealthy on the long run. Just do whatever you want ![]() | ||
pandabearguy
United States252 Posts
milk is good for you that's not some ancient dairy myth perpetuated by the Knights Templar or the Freemasons or something, it's the truth :| | ||
kemoryan
Spain1506 Posts
On September 04 2008 19:29 pandabearguy wrote: both of those sites look pretty sketchy milk is good for you that's not some ancient dairy myth perpetuated by the Knights Templar or the Freemasons or something, it's the truth :| Ok you, sir, lack of total sense of argumentation. | ||
Wurzelbrumpft
Germany471 Posts
And those websites kemoryan posted are absolut bullshit, you find all of these *hormones* contained in milk in a million other things you eat too. if one reasons like that i could also claim that vitamin c or peanuts are deadly. notice how they never use any numbers of how much of this *bad* stuff in milk actually has any negative effect on your health? they just say it does...apart from that its just the usual american demonizing of any kind of fat. AND most of the population is lactose intolerant even if they don´t know about it, since it only shows up if you drink alot. | ||
PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
maybe get a chiropracter to check your back out and do some adjustments if you are that desperate | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32054 Posts
On September 04 2008 19:36 kemoryan wrote: Ok you, sir, lack of total sense of argumentation. And you can't get a credible source. PETA certainly isn't, the nomilk is some radom bs website and Rense is a conspiricy theorist. Whoopie. | ||
1990tOSs
Canada9 Posts
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Elite00fm
United States548 Posts
sleep a fuckton (like 2am until 2pm whenever you can!) don't stress about stuff, for example: "damn, I just failed that math exam, oh well shit happens!" | ||
kemoryan
Spain1506 Posts
On September 04 2008 21:58 Hawk wrote: And you can't get a credible source. PETA certainly isn't, the nomilk is some radom bs website and Rense is a conspiricy theorist. Whoopie. It doesn't matter whether the source is credible or not, does it? That's just a fallacy. The only important thing is the content of the article, not the author. And Im pretty sure almost none of you have read any of them before bashing them.. you can't debate with these kind of 'arguments'. | ||
swat
Australia142 Posts
Weird thing was that I had 2 different growth spurts, firstly the height where finally I was 6"6 and weighed 83kg / 182 pounds. Then around 19 - 20 when I stopped growing taller and started expanding heaps, to the point where I've got stretch marks on my shoulders, chest, biceps, knees and midsection and it wasn't fat... I was just getting bigger. Now I am still 6"6 but I am 95kg / 210 pounds. | ||
Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
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MadNeSs
Denmark1507 Posts
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PliX
Netherlands72 Posts
Margarine is shit, you better use it to oil your door. | ||
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Netherlands72 Posts
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Zuries
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On September 04 2008 22:16 Elite00fm wrote: im like 6"3 and 18 years old sleep a fuckton (like 2am until 2pm whenever you can!) don't stress about stuff, for example: "damn, I just failed that math exam, oh well shit happens!" loooooooooooooooooooooooool. eat carrots upside down on Wednesdays and marry a camel as well. | ||
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On September 04 2008 22:59 Nitrogen23 wrote: apparently 1/2 the tl population is 6'4"+ You're a young poster but you'll get it. TL is made up of well hung young geniuses who are all tall, athletic and over-sexed. It's tough being a TL.net poster but | ||
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On September 05 2008 01:47 {88}iNcontroL wrote: You're a young poster but you'll get it. The internet is made up of well hung young geniuses who are all tall, athletic and over-sexed. fixed Being Dutch seems to work for me, Strafe, my brother, and alot of other Dutch people. I'm not much of a milk drinker, though I did eat alot of apples as a kid. I still a few every week. | ||
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On September 05 2008 02:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Nordic people are the tallest on earth per capita I believe. Not only that. We're the greatest as well ![]() 6'4 here, 17 years old | ||
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On September 05 2008 02:16 JoxxOr wrote: Not only that. We're the greatest as well ![]() 6'4 here, 17 years old Bows very low, forcing his face into the dirt at your feet | ||
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On September 05 2008 02:16 JoxxOr wrote: Not only that. We're the greatest as well ![]() 6'4 here, 17 years old I disagree. Nordic people speak some of the ugliest native languages known to man. You guys also eat some of the worst food. Nothing politically important happens over there and for the most part the most radically liberal horse shit comes from that region as well. The best argument for "we're the greatest" can be made by the simple fact that Swedish/Norwegian women are among the hottest around. I hear the propensity is really good too in said catagory. | ||
Hittegods
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On September 05 2008 02:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I disagree. Nordic people speak some of the ugliest native languages known to man. You guys also eat some of the worst food. Nothing politically important happens over there and for the most part the most radically liberal horse shit comes from that region as well. The best argument for "we're the greatest" can be made by the simple fact that Swedish/Norwegian women are among the hottest around. I hear the propensity is really good too in said catagory. Semi-agree. The food sucks and not a lot happens here. We're not liberal at all though, we're actually quite communist, which sucks equally much. As for language, I'd say that until you actually learn a second one, you have no saying in that. Although finish is wtfhideous. | ||
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On September 05 2008 02:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I disagree. Nordic people speak some of the ugliest native languages known to man. You guys also eat some of the worst food. Nothing politically important happens over there and for the most part the most radically liberal horse shit comes from that region as well. The best argument for "we're the greatest" can be made by the simple fact that Swedish/Norwegian women are among the hottest around. I hear the propensity is really good too in said catagory. Some of the worst food?! Have you ever eaten Kalvsylta? + Show Spoiler + ![]() or Renskav? + Show Spoiler + ![]() Kroppkakor? + Show Spoiler + ![]() or my favorite Blodpudding?! + Show Spoiler + ![]() Until you have you just shut up about worst food!! | ||
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On September 05 2008 02:54 Storchen wrote: Some of the worst food?! Have you ever eaten Kalvsylta? + Show Spoiler + ![]() or Renskav? + Show Spoiler + ![]() Kroppkakor? + Show Spoiler + ![]() or my favorite Blodpudding?! + Show Spoiler + ![]() Until you have you just shut up about worst food!! I've never felt more Romanian, but I assume you're being sarcastic cause those dishes are fucking nasty. You forgot pölsa, svartsoppa and surströmming though. | ||
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On September 05 2008 02:58 Hittegods wrote: I've never felt more Romanian, but I assume you're being sarcastic cause those dishes are fucking nasty. You forgot pölsa, svartsoppa and surströmming though. How could I forget Svartsoppa?! It's the best soup ever! How can a soup made of goose blood taste anything but delicious? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + ![]() Surströmming: + Show Spoiler + Svartsoppa: + Show Spoiler + ![]() Mouth watering yet? | ||
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On September 05 2008 02:49 Hittegods wrote: Semi-agree. The food sucks and not a lot happens here. We're not liberal at all though, we're actually quite communist, which sucks equally much. As for language, I'd say that until you actually learn a second one, you have no saying in that. Although finish is wtfhideous. I have "learned" 3 languages.. cannot speak them very well but your assumption is hilarious. I have taken a year of spanish, a term of german and actually I took 2 years of latin. By "liberal" I meant something other than political liberalism.. | ||
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On September 05 2008 03:07 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I have "learned" 3 languages.. cannot speak them very well but your assumption is hilarious. I have taken a year of spanish, a term of german and actually I took 2 years of latin. By "liberal" I meant something other than political liberalism.. Very well then sir. My assumption that you hadn't studied another language was supposed to be a jab at the old stereotype about americans, as a response to your trolling, although that probably was less than clear. | ||
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i'm short lol =], 2cm separate me from a nice number '180cm' | ||
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On September 05 2008 03:10 Hittegods wrote: Very well then sir. My assumption that you hadn't studied another language was supposed to be a jab at the old stereotype about americans, as a response to your trolling, although that probably was less than clear. Trolling is way over used as some kind of forum buzzword. I am responding to someone who said "And we are the greatest" or w/e. If any trolling happened it was by him. | ||
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On September 05 2008 03:19 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Trolling is way over used as some kind of forum buzzword. I am responding to someone who said "And we are the greatest" or w/e. If any trolling happened it was by him. Sure, maybe it is. From your post it was clear what kind of replies you wanted to provoke though, which, even if it's over used, is some blatant trolling. We're not the best and we eat crap, I hope there aren't any hard feelings against Scandinavia =( | ||
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On September 05 2008 03:24 Hittegods wrote: Sure, maybe it is. From your post it was clear what kind of replies you wanted to provoke though, which, even if it's over used, is some blatant trolling. We're not the best and we eat crap, I hope there aren't any hard feelings against Scandinavia =( The purpose of my post was not to garner a certain reaction but rather to state my opinion. I genuinely think the food blows, the language is ugly and a lot of the liberties are excessive. My "trolling" was breaking convention and saying what people would rather not hear I guess. This is a forum, let's discuss shit, not label things with their cute lil internet buzzword and call it a reply. | ||
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For the political happenings, they at least don´t put their nose in every piece of shit that happnes on earth. Beside of that swedish ppl are one of the most friendly i met, only Thai have been more friendly. Question is, why you could change from topic to "how bad scandinavia is" especially since you have never been there ^^. | ||
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Ilvy, I said THIS 3 times now but when I say "liberal" I don't fucking mean their politics. I mean their social liberalism. God damn woman, you have no sense about you. Also you are living proof you can talk about shit you have never done/been to. You are a fucking leader in a clan for a game YOU DONT PLAY. OBVIOUSLY you exist in a world where it is ok to comment on things you haven't personally experienced. | ||
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On September 04 2008 22:25 kemoryan wrote: It doesn't matter whether the source is credible or not, does it? Actually... it does. Sorry. | ||
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Only if you aren't willing to investigate the truth of the words for yourself. | ||
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On September 05 2008 04:31 travis wrote: Only if you aren't willing to investigate the truth of the words for yourself. Writers who constantly deemed credible can't have their works taken at face value, and it's certainly not worth investigating into whether or not they're right. I've agreed with inc, what has become of meeeee edit: do a quick google of John Rense and you'll see he isn't worth the time.. | ||
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On September 05 2008 03:35 {88}iNcontroL wrote: The purpose of my post was not to garner a certain reaction but rather to state my opinion. I genuinely think the food blows, the language is ugly and a lot of the liberties are excessive. My "trolling" was breaking convention and saying what people would rather not hear I guess. This is a forum, let's discuss shit, not label things with their cute lil internet buzzword and call it a reply. I guess I really shouldn't tell you the reason for your posts, as I obviously don't know. However, they way it was worded gave me the impression that you were trying to provoke reactions rather than initiate a discussion. Sure, breaking convention is fine, most people will just defend everything about their home, just like Ilvy ended up doing. If you however really wanted a discussion then it's better not to start off by throwing (what will most likely be seen as) obvious insults. | ||
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On September 05 2008 04:35 {88}iNcontroL wrote: How the hell can someone argue that a source doesn't have to be credible? You fucking kidding me? I could declare right now that I know for a fact that rat milk is 500% more healthy for you than daily exercise with my source being a leprekaun. Of fucking course the credibility of a source matters holy shit. On September 05 2008 04:41 Hawk wrote: Writers who constantly deemed credible can't have their works taken at face value, and it's certainly not worth investigating into whether or not they're right. I've agreed with inc, what has become of meeeee edit: do a quick google of John Rense and you'll see he isn't worth the time.. Do you guys know what the word credible means? And what the phrase has to be means? Part of the reason people are so closeminded is because they are also so closeminded about the sources they get information from. | ||
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When actually thinking about it, i can come up with far less negative things about nordic people than any other, i mean - purely speaking from prejudice. So from an outside perspective i'd say yes - greatest per capita indeed. Inside? Wouldn't know until i've spent more time actually living and less time as a tourist abroad. | ||
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all greater means is greater to you and even that is surely subject to change at any moment | ||
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On September 05 2008 05:29 travis wrote: no one is greater, lol. that doesn't mean anything. all greater means is greater to you and even that is surely subject to change at any moment Well, my question was aimed at Inc who responded to the obvious troll post "we are the greatest". I know you wouldn't respond to such post with a contradictive statement, rather an equalizing theorem such as the one you just presented. I agree with you, by the way. | ||
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On September 05 2008 05:18 travis wrote: Do you guys know what the word credible means? And what the phrase has to be means? Part of the reason people are so closeminded is because they are also so closeminded about the sources they get information from. Oh rofl.. sorry we assumed you weren't be a literal nit-picking asshat who goes beyond implication and strictly only means what is actually said. You are right. There is no law against less than reputable sources and their credibility. You literally are correct. It doesn't have to be credible for it to be a source. Jesus, thank god we cleared that up. | ||
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On September 05 2008 05:27 Thrill wrote: Just for the sake of trolling then, what people beside nordic do you propose are greater? When actually thinking about it, i can come up with far less negative things about nordic people than any other, i mean - purely speaking from prejudice. So from an outside perspective i'd say yes - greatest per capita indeed. Inside? Wouldn't know until i've spent more time actually living and less time as a tourist abroad. I just spent a year studying the middle east. I can without a doubt say I hate that region more than I do the nordic one. I'm ethnocentric btw. In saudi arabia there is no women's suffrage. It is also illegal for them to drive. When a dutch newspaper depicts Muhammed in a disrespectful way they (islamic countries, moving away from strictly saudi arabia now) have riots that kill 100's of people and promise more to come. Genocide, ethnic cleansing, tolerable rape etc.. | ||
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And I do not believe the point I made to be insignificant. Credibility is largely(perhaps mostly) defined by the status quo - and this is part of the reason paradigm shifts happen so, so slowly - they don't happen until they are completely forced - even when the truth is blatantly obvious to freethinking people. Being cynical and sarcastic does nothing to make one of us more right or more wrong, and it does nothing to help further understanding on either side. Although I will admit it can often be amusing. | ||
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On September 05 2008 05:36 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I just spent a year studying the middle east. I can without a doubt say I hate that region more than I do the nordic one. I'm ethnocentric btw. In saudi arabia there is no women's suffrage. It is also illegal for them to drive. When a dutch newspaper depicts Muhammed in a disrespectful way they (islamic countries, moving away from strictly saudi arabia now) have riots that kill 100's of people and promise more to come. Genocide, ethnic cleansing, tolerable rape etc.. Yep, definitley - i discriminate and "rank" greatness as well. Disclaimer: no, i don't believe this is gene determined, only an idiot would. That's why it's a little interesting for me to hear what others rank as 'greatest'? Perhaps it's simply so that we all rank ourselves as greatest which does make things a bit boring in this case. Hmm, so, ok: I'm nordic, if i am to pick "the greatest people" outside of the nordic countries, i would have to choose the Brittish main island. This is not an easy choice however and one i've pondered a LOT as i've concidered med school abroad possibly followed by a working life there. Currently i havn't been able to find a choice better than staying put. But i'm always interested to get input and opinions that may lead to me looking more closely into new options which turn out to be true eye-openers. But really - inside my own international circle, we've all pretty much arrived at the conclusion that if your native country is suddenly blown up, a nordic country seems pretty damn appealing as a homeland, especially due to the people. Faced with the same question - if the US suddenly dissapeared, where would you go? It's quite an interesting scenario which forces a lot of thinking, at least for me. | ||
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Switzerland, France, New Zealand. | ||
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On September 05 2008 04:35 {88}iNcontroL wrote: How the hell can someone argue that a source doesn't have to be credible? You fucking kidding me? I could declare right now that I know for a fact that rat milk is 500% more healthy for you than daily exercise with my source being a leprekaun. Of fucking course the credibility of a source matters holy shit. No I'm not kidding you. Denying what somone says because of how/what he is a known fallacy called Ad Hominem. You should learn basic syllogistic logic before trying to argue anything. On September 05 2008 04:31 travis wrote: Only if you aren't willing to investigate the truth of the words for yourself. He said it himself. | ||
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Travis: Of course there is room for literal interpretations. But it is often said that those that can determine when interpretation calls for a literal or figurative translation are probably more intelligent. You tried to nit-pick the fucking point as if it needed to be determined that there is no law mandating the physical impossibility of a less-than "credible" source existing. kemoryan: The broken english in your post difuses any chance of a coherent thought being pulled from that. "How/what he is" doesn't make any sense. Especially given the conversation. And stop with the assumptions, like that I hadn't studied something. Ironically that assertion IS a logical fallacy so before you can presume to preach it I suggest you learn it bitch. | ||
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On September 05 2008 06:25 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Travis: Of course there is room for literal interpretations. But it is often said that those that can determine when interpretation calls for a literal or figurative translation are probably more intelligent. Is this supposed to be a reply to: "So we should not do our best to be literal in our discussions?"? Because it certainly does not address that question. For the sake of humoring you, let's put the original statement into a figurative context, so that "has to be" is now "ought to be" Has any point I made changed whatsoever? You tried to nit-pick the fucking point as if it needed to be determined that there is no law mandating the physical impossibility of a less-than "credible" source existing. Nit-pick what point? I was attempting to illustrate my own point. | ||
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On September 05 2008 06:28 UnitarySpace wrote: Ad Hominem only applies when there is an argument being made, i.e. when there is just logic involved. Credibility enters into play when you begin to talk about purported facts or information, in which case the source certainly matters. Are you suggesting that the credibility of a source is not a subject of debate in of itself? | ||
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But if we remove them? :p Just for the sake of argument. | ||
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On September 05 2008 06:36 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Oh ok Travis.. you were LITERALLY asking me if I knew what credible means or "has" means? Sorry, I was confusing you with a nit-picking asshat.. guess I had it wrong. As I said, I was illustrating a point. So yes, I was literally asking you. | ||
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On September 05 2008 06:37 UnitarySpace wrote: Somebody used Ad Hominem incorrectly so I corrected it. I have no idea what anybody is talking about here. fair enough ![]() | ||
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On September 05 2008 06:51 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Interesting subject with spanking btw.. that could be it's own thread/blog.. presonally I think the government has no right to ban "spanking" since the definition of spanking is so blurry and the implications of the government dictating parental roles is dangerous. Obviously it stops being "spanking" if you injure or harm the child severely.. but the common use of spanking has its place. Well, i'm not sure if teachers are allowed to carry out corporal punishments in which case i strongly oppose the legislation, if limited to parents it's 'better' and doesn't necessarily have to be illegal. Just saying that to clarify my position without thread hijacking (whatever's left of this thread. Got milk?). | ||
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I'm 5'11", and ever since I fully discovered around the age of 18 that the world is pervaded by arrogance, stupidity, and shallowness, I've often felt discontent with my height, since all that is contemptible about the common masses of filth in our society nevertheless tends to rub off even on those of the most noble dispositions. So in all honesty, it is quite difficult not to be preoccupied in the least with the superficialities of life, but if you consider the amount of people in the world who suffer from poverty, physical and mental diseases, and even things like starvation in places such as Africa, your suffering over such a trivial thing as your height then shows itself for what it truly is: mere vanity. | ||
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On September 05 2008 06:28 UnitarySpace wrote: Ad Hominem only applies when there is an argument being made, i.e. when there is just logic involved. Credibility enters into play when you begin to talk about purported facts or information, in which case the source certainly matters. On September 05 2008 06:37 UnitarySpace wrote: Somebody used Ad Hominem incorrectly so I corrected it. I have no idea what anybody is talking about here. Actually I wasn't using it incorrectly. From wikipedia: "The syllogism is at the core of deductive reasoning, where facts are determined by combining existing statements." And: "An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim." So ad hominem is not used only when pure logic is involved. That's their deductive reasoning: 1. Source has no credibility. 2. Thus content is bullshit. (Factual claim) On September 05 2008 06:25 {88}iNcontroL wrote: kemoryan: The broken english in your post difuses any chance of a coherent thought being pulled from that. "How/what he is" doesn't make any sense. Especially given the conversation. And stop with the assumptions, like that I hadn't studied something. Ironically that assertion IS a logical fallacy so before you can presume to preach it I suggest you learn it bitch. Sorry if its so difficult to understand, english is my third language and I do what I can. But yeah, I really messed up that post when I edited it. | ||
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On September 05 2008 05:49 Thrill wrote: Faced with the same question - if the US suddenly dissapeared, where would you go? It's quite an interesting scenario which forces a lot of thinking, at least for me. Id move to the middle east, would be a non-stop party 24 / 7. lulz :S | ||
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Saudi & Dubai. Dubai was 100x better. | ||
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On September 05 2008 12:50 TheOvermind77 wrote: I'm 5' 7'' and I go through two gallons of milk each week throughout my entire life. I'm 20. Fail? Drink less milk, obviously. | ||
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you basically want a well varied diet with calcium, vitamin d, glucosamine/chrondrotin, with an adequate amount of protein to go with it. Sleep is also critical, exercise must always be consistent. I haven't heard anything about basketball, but it is an overall intensive exercise that does stretch the body, so maybe its not such a far-fetched idea afterall. | ||
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