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NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9721 Posts
April 12 2024 05:58 GMT
#5201
A promised surge in aid into Gaza that Benjamin Netanyahu promised Joe Biden a week ago has so far failed to materialise, aid workers say, as the US aid chief confirmed that famine is beginning to take hold in parts of the besieged coastal strip.

The increase in the number of truck crossing into Gaza claimed by Israel conflicts with UN records and already appears to be faltering.

“There is a lot less than meets the eye so far,” said Jeremy Konyndyk, a former senior official in the Biden administration, who is now president of the Refugees International aid advocacy organisation. “Very little has actually changed.”

One of Netanyahu’s pledges to Biden, to open the Ashdod port north of Gaza as a portal to sea-borne humanitarian aid, has led to no apparent action, according to the Israel N12 channel. N12 reported that none of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), Israel’s Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (Cogat) nor the Ashdod Port authorities have so far received instructions about opening the facility to shipments bound for Gaza.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/11/aid-still-not-reaching-gaza-as-top-us-official-warns-famine-has-started

Oh my what a massive surprise.
No-one could possibly have predicted this.
RIP Meatloaf <3
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3357 Posts
April 12 2024 06:17 GMT
#5202
On April 11 2024 21:59 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2024 16:56 pmp10 wrote:
Israel offers to allow Palestinians back in North of Gaza.
Part of their negotiation offer I'm sure.
Recent events show that some form of a deal is close but the final details are proving really difficult.

The final details are that Hamas killed most of the hostages. Even their own negotiators were unaware how few were left living.

Even if they did, you have no way of knowing that.
The nature of cut-throat negotiations like these is that we are being fed lies meant to exert political pressure.
There is no point in believing any 'leaks' until a deal is made or negotiations break-off.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-12 14:30:01
April 12 2024 13:13 GMT
#5203
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 12 2024 17:46 GMT
#5204
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
April 12 2024 17:54 GMT
#5205
On April 13 2024 02:46 JimmiC wrote:
In light of the UN findings of clear and convincing evidence of sexual assaults' on the hostages and other victims of Oct 7th.

Show nested quote +
The European Council has adopted sanctions against three Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad entities, in light of "their responsibilities in the brutal and indiscriminate terrorist attacks" that occurred across Israel on October 7.

The listed entities are:

Al-Quds Brigades, the armed wing of Palestinian Islamic Jihad
Nukhba Force, a special forces unit of Hamas
Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas
They are now subject to an asset freeze and a travel ban to the European Union, the EU Council said Friday in a news release, adding, "the provision of funds to them, directly or indirectly, is now also prohibited."


Here is a story about the UN report.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/04/europe/un-team-sexual-abuse-oct-7-hostages-intl/index.html

Animals, and to have the gall to deny it...
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 13 2024 02:05 GMT
#5206
Good news the incoming missiles were not from Iran. but Lebanon. The IDF apparently shot them all down, which was quite a lot.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3357 Posts
April 13 2024 05:34 GMT
#5207
On April 12 2024 22:13 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2024 15:17 pmp10 wrote:
On April 11 2024 21:59 JimmiC wrote:
On April 11 2024 16:56 pmp10 wrote:
Israel offers to allow Palestinians back in North of Gaza.
Part of their negotiation offer I'm sure.
Recent events show that some form of a deal is close but the final details are proving really difficult.

The final details are that Hamas killed most of the hostages. Even their own negotiators were unaware how few were left living.

Even if they did, you have no way of knowing that.
The nature of cut-throat negotiations like these is that we are being fed lies meant to exert political pressure.
There is no point in believing any 'leaks' until a deal is made or negotiations break-off.

Sure, you can have your personal bar that high where even if the leaks, public actions by world leaders and so on all line up but you only believe things you personally witness.

Or you could just wait until the talks end or at least are clearly stalled.
That's when they no longer have the incentive to lie.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 13 2024 16:20 GMT
#5208
So late last night a USAID worker was gunned down by an off duty Israeli cop, he was checking on a car wreck victim. Basically a US Government employee.



Still no US reaction as of yet. Even the reported video of the masked cop walking away shows no signs of stab wounds or injuries.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 13 2024 18:57 GMT
#5209
So it appears the US has informed Israel a possible attack tonight. So the IDF is basically preparing its defenses, and hospitals etc. They are jamming aviation everywhere.




Hopefully cooler heads prevail.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12355 Posts
April 13 2024 19:50 GMT
#5210
I wonder if at the start of the Iraq war it was this obvious that the US was in the wrong
No will to live, no wish to die
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden790 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-13 19:54:18
April 13 2024 19:53 GMT
#5211
#BREAKING: Iran has launched dozens of drones in attack against Israel, four US and Israeli officials tell
@BarakRavid




https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-796838
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-13 20:01:41
April 13 2024 19:54 GMT
#5212
Tehran airspace now closed. Makes me wonder if Iran warned others in advance.



edit:
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden790 Posts
April 13 2024 20:01 GMT
#5213
On April 14 2024 04:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Tehran airspace now closed. Makes me wonder if Iran warned others in advance.


Think we can be pretty sure about that
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 13 2024 20:07 GMT
#5214
Now things are serious, pretty sure his security team did not want him there. Now we wait and see if the Iron Dome is not only capable of shooting down drones, but missiles as well.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden790 Posts
April 13 2024 20:09 GMT
#5215
On April 14 2024 05:07 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Now things are serious, pretty sure his security team did not want him there. Now we wait and see if the Iron Dome is not only capable of shooting down drones, but missiles as well.

https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1779237532921745423


Well, obviously. Even if by accident if a US official would be caught in the attack , would lead to a much larger conflict
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-13 20:43:14
April 13 2024 20:42 GMT
#5216
US, UK, and Jordanian military aircraft have now taken off. Again this feels like a theatre in order to calm everything down. Hours beforehand Biden returned to the WH and so on. Then the attacks started. The most well documented surprise attack in history.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26068 Posts
April 13 2024 21:08 GMT
#5217
Are Iran fucking thick or what?

When broad international sentiment is thus that even the US starts to take some baby steps against its traditional unwavering support of Israel in all things, you attack Israel?

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-13 21:17:12
April 13 2024 21:14 GMT
#5218
No surprise as the footage shown shows the drones very low the ground. Iraq isn't just flat terrain.



Biden to supposedly speak soon. Egypt has closed their airspace now.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 13 2024 21:18 GMT
#5219
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 13 2024 22:06 GMT
#5220
First confirmation that some Drones are being shot down before they reach Israel. Still surprised that that UK military is actually involved, taking off from Cyprus.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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