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On November 04 2020 16:05 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 16:02 Acrofales wrote:
How do people look at someone who mishandled Covid so so obviously and vote for him again? I guess just repeating that everything you did was "the best" even though it clearly wasn't convinces enough people to make this a very close race. I was just talking about it with some friends. Truthfully, I don't know, but trying to put myself in the shoes of a trump voter, I can only say that maybe they just think to give him another try or other unknown reasons like conservative/pro-life policies.
The fact that politics in the US are becoming a show, even more like a sports show. From my perspective, it's like sports fan : you can't reason with them, whatever sides they're on.
And the fact that Trump fans are beeing insulted/booed everywhere on the planet make them even more angry. It's not about politics anymore. It's not about what's best for the people anymore. That's sad, but that's the way democracy is going pretty much everywhere in the world I feel 
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On November 04 2020 16:09 Wegandi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 16:07 IyMoon wrote:On November 04 2020 16:06 FlaShFTW wrote:
At this point, I feel like the best path to victory is Biden winning Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, NE-2, and Wisconsin to get to 270. I know there's a ton of vote in Michigan and PA in those slower urban counties but it's not looking good, Biden down 9 in MI and 14 in PA. That's insane numbers to be down with almost 70% reporting. Yeah but PA saying that 2 million early votes still out Given 71% (est.) in with 5 mil total votes cast the likelihood of 2M EV out there seems remote at best.
What are you talking about, that's literally the exact number. 5 million with .71 reporting means expected over 7 mill voting.
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On November 04 2020 16:09 Wegandi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 16:07 IyMoon wrote:On November 04 2020 16:06 FlaShFTW wrote:
At this point, I feel like the best path to victory is Biden winning Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, NE-2, and Wisconsin to get to 270. I know there's a ton of vote in Michigan and PA in those slower urban counties but it's not looking good, Biden down 9 in MI and 14 in PA. That's insane numbers to be down with almost 70% reporting. Yeah but PA saying that 2 million early votes still out Given 71% (est.) in with 5 mil total votes cast the likelihood of 2M EV out there seems remote at best.
Not sure if you can't do maths but 5 million votes divided by 71% (proportion counted) gets you to the total of 7 million votes.
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On November 04 2020 16:07 IyMoon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 16:06 FlaShFTW wrote:
At this point, I feel like the best path to victory is Biden winning Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, NE-2, and Wisconsin to get to 270. I know there's a ton of vote in Michigan and PA in those slower urban counties but it's not looking good, Biden down 9 in MI and 14 in PA. That's insane numbers to be down with almost 70% reporting. Yeah but PA saying that 2 million early votes still out
People honestly believe this?
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On November 04 2020 16:11 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 16:09 Wegandi wrote:On November 04 2020 16:07 IyMoon wrote:On November 04 2020 16:06 FlaShFTW wrote:
At this point, I feel like the best path to victory is Biden winning Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, NE-2, and Wisconsin to get to 270. I know there's a ton of vote in Michigan and PA in those slower urban counties but it's not looking good, Biden down 9 in MI and 14 in PA. That's insane numbers to be down with almost 70% reporting. Yeah but PA saying that 2 million early votes still out Given 71% (est.) in with 5 mil total votes cast the likelihood of 2M EV out there seems remote at best. Not sure if you can't do maths but 5 million votes divided by 71% (proportion counted) gets you to the total of 7 million votes.
You guys really think the only votes left in PA are early votes?
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On November 04 2020 15:56 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
The fact that this is close if bloody horrifying.
How the flying **** can half the voting US look at the last 4 years and be like "Yes. This fascist moron is the one."
I think the fact it's close is already enough a problem. Even if Biden wins now Trump's going to have a lot more leverage to try pull off nonsense and stay in power / do even more lasting damage on his way out.
Pretty sure that once again its the democrats candidate fault...
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So a Trump win might come down to people voting Jo Jorgensen or whatever the fuck her name is ?
Liberals never fucking learn god dammit.
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Well, there are multiple places in PA that have said they won't even start counting early votes until after they finish their election day tally, and still three days for votes to come in. So yeah I don't think it's a stretch to believe they are mostly/entirely early or absentee votes.
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On November 04 2020 16:12 Wegandi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 16:11 KwarK wrote:On November 04 2020 16:09 Wegandi wrote:On November 04 2020 16:07 IyMoon wrote:On November 04 2020 16:06 FlaShFTW wrote:
At this point, I feel like the best path to victory is Biden winning Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, NE-2, and Wisconsin to get to 270. I know there's a ton of vote in Michigan and PA in those slower urban counties but it's not looking good, Biden down 9 in MI and 14 in PA. That's insane numbers to be down with almost 70% reporting. Yeah but PA saying that 2 million early votes still out Given 71% (est.) in with 5 mil total votes cast the likelihood of 2M EV out there seems remote at best. Not sure if you can't do maths but 5 million votes divided by 71% (proportion counted) gets you to the total of 7 million votes. You guys really think the only votes left in PA are early votes?
Isn't that what they've been telling us all along? That they'll count the in person ballots tonight but will be counting mail in ballots until Friday.
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If biden does the same as hillary he is probley going to pick up about 300k in Philadelphia area alone. And he could always improve on her numbers. While the numbers should give biden pause he should be able to pull it out.
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On November 04 2020 16:13 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 15:56 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
The fact that this is close if bloody horrifying.
How the flying **** can half the voting US look at the last 4 years and be like "Yes. This fascist moron is the one."
I think the fact it's close is already enough a problem. Even if Biden wins now Trump's going to have a lot more leverage to try pull off nonsense and stay in power / do even more lasting damage on his way out. Pretty sure that once again its the democrats candidate fault...
Trump voters are adults with their own agency.
They're the bastards who decided to vote for him, they're responsible, no-one else.
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Whole EU waking up completely baffled by the fact that Trump is still in a good position do win this. Well played USA, well played.
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Trump's on. Seems to have learned the word "disenfranchise" to avoid saying stealing.
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So did Trump win allready or is he just ahead?
I hope them democrats rethink how their pre elections work, it s this close against one of the arguably worst us presidents ever, how did they manage to nominate a candidate, that struggles vs someone, Who doesn t care abou thousands if deaths and is pretty much only appealing to old, white men?
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This is pretty ridiculous so far.
In terms we can better relate to, right now, we are in game 6 of a 7 game series. Trump is currently up 3-2. It's been a clusterfuck of a game and we're 30 minutes in and Biden has a bit of a lead. It's been a 4 hour series so far. Every from casters to players to spectators are exhausted. And Biden is looking more and more likely to take game 6 so game 7 is yet to come.
If it were a starcraft series, it'd be one of the epics of all time. Unfortunately, this ain't starcraft, and the marbles are way bigger.
Fuck this timeline.
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On November 04 2020 16:23 GreenHorizons wrote:
Trump's on. Seems to have learned the word "disenfranchise" to avoid saying stealing.
OMG we have come full circle, i never though i would see the day that the GOP would be the one taking about disenfranchisement. That is just comedy gold right there.
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On November 04 2020 16:24 dbRic1203 wrote:
So did Trump win allready or is he just ahead?
I hope them democrats rethink how their pre elections work, it s this close against one of the arguably worst us presidents ever, how did they manage to nominate a candidate, that struggles vs someone, Who doesn t care abou thousands if deaths and is pretty much only appealing to old, white men?
Everyone is good at something, and Democrats excel at losing winnable disputes.
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On November 04 2020 16:24 dbRic1203 wrote:
So did Trump win allready or is he just ahead?
I hope them democrats rethink how their pre elections work, it s this close against one of the arguably worst us presidents ever, how did they manage to nominate a candidate, that struggles vs someone, Who doesn t care abou thousands if deaths and is pretty much only appealing to old, white men?
I'm not sure he's ahead-it's closer to a coinflip. But since he's closer to ahead than he was before votes started being counted, in his mind he's already won.
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On November 04 2020 16:24 dbRic1203 wrote:
So did Trump win allready or is he just ahead?
I hope them democrats rethink how their pre elections work, it s this close against one of the arguably worst us presidents ever, how did they manage to nominate a candidate, that struggles vs someone, Who doesn t care abou thousands if deaths and is pretty much only appealing to old, white men?
Trump basically has to go 3/3 on rustbelt states to win but they're likely correlated so it's not so unlikely.
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