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On November 08 2020 01:58 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2020 01:50 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 08 2020 01:41 Liquid`Drone wrote:On November 08 2020 01:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 08 2020 01:08 Liquid`Drone wrote:On November 07 2020 23:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Savage comeback a year after by Greta Thunberg. She annoys me most of the time but she is fiercely smart:
Seriously? She annoys you most of the time? Oh, she is awesome in many ways and her achievements are remarkable. I also think she fights the good fight, and most certainly the right way. Her persona really does get on my nerves though. Does that make me a bad person? Honestly, there are few things I find more pathetic than adults who are annoyed by Greta Thunberg. Genuinely very surprised to see you in that group. Why pathetic? I agree with her, have huge respect for her, support her, but I don't find her a friendly figure or someone who awakes very warm feelings in me. Is it allowed to not have a good vibe from someone or should I just be fine with you calling me pathetic? Jesus, you are very tolerant until suddenly you are really not very tolerant, right? You're the one who had to qualify your positive statement about her with 'she annoys me most of the time'. Why? What about her annoys you? She's a 19 year old girl who has been doing more than any other 19 year old girl in the entire world to deal with the biggest single issue that the world faces, or arguably has ever faced. And when you decide to opine on her, you say 'she annoys me most of the time'. I don't get it.
I tried to avoid this exchange but...
You don't get a free ride to Davos/the WEF if what you're propagating isn't in the interest of the type of people who go there.
I respect Greta for having the courage to stand up to something at a young age but she was being instrumentalized.
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On November 08 2020 01:52 WombaT wrote:
Eugh Donald just fuck off already.
One thing I would be curious about is how widespread the kind of sentiment he is articulating there actually is. Of course the QAnon folk of the world will believe this kind of thing but how is it playing with the more moderate Republican voter?
I think it's gonna be a significant portion of the country unfortunately. It's probably going to depend on how hard Fox News leans into the narrative.
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Giuliani : 'Will Smith's father voted here twice after he died'
It's just one of his random internet rants he has nothing lmao
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Gonna be a few pretty stark tests of our institutions to get through yet before this is over, I hope people are ready for that
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On November 08 2020 02:01 Starlightsun wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2020 01:52 WombaT wrote:
Eugh Donald just fuck off already.
One thing I would be curious about is how widespread the kind of sentiment he is articulating there actually is. Of course the QAnon folk of the world will believe this kind of thing but how is it playing with the more moderate Republican voter? I think it's gonna be a significant portion of the country unfortunately. It's probably going to depend on how hard Fox News leans into the narrative.
They seemed to be surprisingly objective/reasonable for the most part.
I actually was surprised that they called it a few minutes after CNN.
Gonna be a few pretty stark tests of our institutions to get through before this is over, I hope people are ready for that
I hope your institutions are.
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On November 08 2020 02:02 farvacola wrote:
Gonna be a few pretty stark tests of our institutions to get through yet before this is over, I hope people are ready for that
That was my thoughts as well. As the transition begins, I wonder the damage that can be done. Who will just ignore everything and wait for next year.
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Norway28911 Posts
On November 08 2020 02:00 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2020 01:50 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 08 2020 01:41 Liquid`Drone wrote:On November 08 2020 01:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 08 2020 01:08 Liquid`Drone wrote:Seriously? She annoys you most of the time? Oh, she is awesome in many ways and her achievements are remarkable. I also think she fights the good fight, and most certainly the right way. Her persona really does get on my nerves though. Does that make me a bad person? Honestly, there are few things I find more pathetic than adults who are annoyed by Greta Thunberg. Genuinely very surprised to see you in that group. Why pathetic? I agree with her, have huge respect for her, support her, but I don't find her a friendly figure or someone who awakes very warm feelings in me. Is it allowed to not have a good vibe from someone or should I just be fine with you calling me pathetic? Jesus, you are very tolerant until suddenly you are really not very tolerant, right? Well, she's on the autism spectrum. So she's not likely to awaken warm feelings in people : that's literally a disability for her.
Yea, this is like being annoyed at a wheelchair bound person for not being able to walk.
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
Who are these people and where is Donald? I really want to observe his salt in real-time.
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On November 08 2020 01:52 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2020 01:43 m4ini wrote:On November 08 2020 01:41 Liquid`Drone wrote:On November 08 2020 01:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 08 2020 01:08 Liquid`Drone wrote:Seriously? She annoys you most of the time? Oh, she is awesome in many ways and her achievements are remarkable. I also think she fights the good fight, and most certainly the right way. Her persona really does get on my nerves though. Does that make me a bad person? Honestly, there are few things I find more pathetic than adults who are annoyed by Greta Thunberg. Genuinely very surprised to see you in that group. The fuck? She absolutely is annoying. That's not judging her ideas. In fact, the very idea that adults who're generally easier annoyed at younger people somehow are pathetic because it's Thunberg is absolutely idiotic. Not really sorry you are offended. I genuinely think it speaks very poorly of a person if they look at Greta Thunberg and think 'oh god, she annoys me', and I think people who find themselves thinking like that should reflect around what aspect of her annoys them, and then try to understand how unreasonable that is, and then try to work on how to better themselves so it's no longer the case.
You're reading too much into it, the public speaking mannerisms of teenagers tend to be cringe inducing. This isn't a value judgement.
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God I hope it stays this way. I hope there will be no QAnon & Trump cult violence in the next days and hope Trump has no success with his next actions.
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On November 08 2020 02:04 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2020 02:00 Nevuk wrote:On November 08 2020 01:50 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 08 2020 01:41 Liquid`Drone wrote:On November 08 2020 01:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 08 2020 01:08 Liquid`Drone wrote:Seriously? She annoys you most of the time? Oh, she is awesome in many ways and her achievements are remarkable. I also think she fights the good fight, and most certainly the right way. Her persona really does get on my nerves though. Does that make me a bad person? Honestly, there are few things I find more pathetic than adults who are annoyed by Greta Thunberg. Genuinely very surprised to see you in that group. Why pathetic? I agree with her, have huge respect for her, support her, but I don't find her a friendly figure or someone who awakes very warm feelings in me. Is it allowed to not have a good vibe from someone or should I just be fine with you calling me pathetic? Jesus, you are very tolerant until suddenly you are really not very tolerant, right? Well, she's on the autism spectrum. So she's not likely to awaken warm feelings in people : that's literally a disability for her. Yea, this is like being annoyed at a wheelchair bound person for not being able to walk.
The actual analogy would be to be stuck behind a wheel chair/mobility scooter on the road. Nobody is annoyed at Greta because she's autistic.
Great strawman though.
You're reading too much into it, the public speaking mannerisms of teenagers tend to be cringe inducing. This isn't a value judgement.
Considering both Biff and i gave no judgement over her ideas or values, i don't think Drone's grasping that.
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So these eyewitnesses don't seem to be proving anything. You have never been allowed to record, or even photograph vote counting. Not to mention ever bring in personnel computers. Ever.
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Not that he needed much encouraging, but I'm sure everyone that has to deal with Trump in person right now was more than happy to get him out golfing.
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Biden's walking into possibly one of the most nightmarish scenarios a president could walk into. A raging pandemic,
a harsh economic crisis, demands for tangible reform in race relations and policing, environmental crises, reuniting a country more bitterly divided than ever, challenging China's rising presence and many, many more issues. I hope he finds the strength and people to find the light through this.
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On November 08 2020 02:06 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Biden's walking into possibly one of the most nightmarish scenarios a president could walk into. A raging pandemic,
a harsh economic crisis, demands for tangible reform in race relations and policing, environmental crises, reuniting a country more bitterly divided than ever, challenging China's rising presence and many, many more issues. I hope he finds the strength and people to find the light through this.
Yeah, it's not the greatest legacy to inherit at the moment.
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On November 08 2020 02:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So Rudy seems to have gone off the deep end. He just seems to attacking Philadelphia.
edit: He says he has recordings, so why doesn't he play one for the press right now?
Because they have to forge it first lol.
It's fucking pathetic.
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
I'm almost of the opinion that basically all public press conferences should have a side-stream of real-time fact-checking. Hell some things seem vaguely problematic to me, then I'm quickly disavowed of that information with someone over in Yank land explaining how it works in their States.
There's so much bollocks around, and not everyone has the luxury to be familiar with the TL politics thread.
This conference is an absolutely train-wreck though, not sure I need much fact-checking to help me navigate this one. I expected them to have very little to walk in with but it seems they have even less than that.
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On November 08 2020 02:01 Starlightsun wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2020 01:52 WombaT wrote:
Eugh Donald just fuck off already.
One thing I would be curious about is how widespread the kind of sentiment he is articulating there actually is. Of course the QAnon folk of the world will believe this kind of thing but how is it playing with the more moderate Republican voter? I think it's gonna be a significant portion of the country unfortunately. It's probably going to depend on how hard Fox News leans into the narrative.
If the rumors that were buzzing around yesterday are true, then Rupert Murdoch has already told Trump to concede. It doesn't look like he's going to be fighting Trump's fight this time.
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On November 08 2020 02:06 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Biden's walking into possibly one of the most nightmarish scenarios a president could walk into. A raging pandemic,
a harsh economic crisis, demands for tangible reform in race relations and policing, environmental crises, reuniting a country more bitterly divided than ever, challenging China's rising presence and many, many more issues. I hope he finds the strength and people to find the light through this.
I met him back in 2017. I must say you could hear a pin drop in the room when he is speaking (this was at a leadership conference not for any party). The guy has more leadership in his pinky than the clown who sits in the office today.
You will be on the right track. There are Republican's who can work with him and have great relationships so the country is getting back on the right track.
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Norway28911 Posts
On November 08 2020 02:04 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2020 01:52 Liquid`Drone wrote:On November 08 2020 01:43 m4ini wrote:On November 08 2020 01:41 Liquid`Drone wrote:On November 08 2020 01:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 08 2020 01:08 Liquid`Drone wrote:Seriously? She annoys you most of the time? Oh, she is awesome in many ways and her achievements are remarkable. I also think she fights the good fight, and most certainly the right way. Her persona really does get on my nerves though. Does that make me a bad person? Honestly, there are few things I find more pathetic than adults who are annoyed by Greta Thunberg. Genuinely very surprised to see you in that group. The fuck? She absolutely is annoying. That's not judging her ideas. In fact, the very idea that adults who're generally easier annoyed at younger people somehow are pathetic because it's Thunberg is absolutely idiotic. Not really sorry you are offended. I genuinely think it speaks very poorly of a person if they look at Greta Thunberg and think 'oh god, she annoys me', and I think people who find themselves thinking like that should reflect around what aspect of her annoys them, and then try to understand how unreasonable that is, and then try to work on how to better themselves so it's no longer the case. You're reading too much into it, the public speaking mannerisms of teenagers tend to be cringe inducing. This isn't a value judgement.
No, I'm acknowledging that they're not passing value judgments. I don't particularly care for continuing this discussion right here though, if m4ini or biff wants me to elaborate further in a PM I will. I was just really surprised that Biff was annoyed by her, because based on my impression of him, it was entirely out of character. Which I guess is also how he feels about me saying adult men who are annoyed by her are pathetic. 
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