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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46618 Posts
On November 06 2020 10:00 Starlightsun wrote: I just can't get over how it's come down to such a tight race in the middle of this once in a lifetime crisis, which the incumbent still basically refuses to even acknowledge. Even a 240k body count has not swayed his support. It's really tragic, but I'm not actually surprised. There are a million things Trump did back in 2016 that should have been disqualifying, but he was right when he said he could murder people and he wouldn't lose his support. I just didn't expect him to murder so many of us. | ||
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StasisField
United States1086 Posts
I'm glad you asked. As a leftist (aka not a liberal), I am pro 2A and believe it is a necessary tool for the people in case the government becomes oppressive and authoritarian in its rule. I also believe the background check loophole ought to be closed and that mental healthcare should be expanded in the country to limit the number of mass shootings. I am open to access to certain guns and certain modifications possibly being regulated or even banned, but I don't know for certain what guns or modifications I would regulate or ban, as I am not knowledgeable enough on the issue to make a definitive statement. So yes, I'm fine with people's rights to own guns. In fact, I encourage it. I think it is a necessary tool for the people, but I think we need to make sure the people who have access to them are well adjusted human beings who can be trusted with them, and I think the best way to minimize the number of people who slip through the cracks is a combination of better mental healthcare and better background check laws. I am open to possibly restricting and even banning certain firearms and modifications but I do not know of any right now that I am convinced, based on data and information, should actually be banned. That's quite a far cry from "Im for peoples right to own weapons! Except for this one...and this one...this one too...but hey shotguns are ok. 2 round max. Im pro 2A." Like you claimed earlier in this thread. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On November 06 2020 10:02 TheYango wrote: Yeah I'm still not seeing the value in retreading the same tired arguments with Wegandi from the USPMT. It makes this thread annoying to check for people who are just checking in for quick updates. I think it's probably too late in the day for any more races to be called, since it's not election day. The only further election specific updates are going to be small batches of votes or things like inflammatory rhetoric or possible violence. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10584 Posts
So apparently the latest Arizona dump was really good for Trump. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On November 06 2020 10:09 farvacola wrote: I dunno man, at least one Trump fan I grew up with said it was the most pathetic thing he's ever seen, so I think it's hitting folks differently Yeah, certainly not to my dad’s credit, lol. Just saying. Hard to read that text just now!! Ahhh | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On November 06 2020 10:13 FlaShFTW wrote: https://twitter.com/Garrett_Archer/status/1324517060903202816?s=20 So apparently the latest Arizona dump was really good for Trump. Time to "stop the count"? | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10584 Posts
I guess so. | ||
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Husyelt
United States839 Posts
On November 06 2020 10:09 farvacola wrote: I dunno man, at least one Trump fan I grew up with said it was the most pathetic thing he's ever seen, so I think it's hitting folks differently Do you have a link to this? I haven't followed any news since the morning | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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KwarK
United States44400 Posts
On November 06 2020 10:13 Mohdoo wrote: Yeah, certainly not to my dad’s credit, lol. Just saying. Hard to read that text just now!! Ahhh You could explain to him that in Texas the Democrats started with a big lead (from the mail in votes) but then when they started counting the in person votes they were mostly Trump. Challenge him to explain how the in person votes could be so different to the mail in ones if there wasn’t a conspiracy. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Stop it everywhere in AZ and just assume the ratios hold. Seems like the only rational route to me. Who needs to waste money counting | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10584 Posts
On November 06 2020 10:20 KwarK wrote: You could explain to him that in Texas the Democrats started with a big lead (from the mail in votes) but then when they started counting the in person votes they were mostly Trump. Challenge him to explain how the in person votes could be so different to the mail in ones if there wasn’t a conspiracy. Basically this, the biggest evidence for all of these are the two systems of counting votes Mail in first then in person: Texas, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Arizona, Iowa In person first then mail in: Wisconsin, Michigan, PA, Virginia, Georgia If he can accept any of the states in the first line, then by default he must accept the states in the second line. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On November 06 2020 10:20 KwarK wrote: You could explain to him that in Texas the Democrats started with a big lead (from the mail in votes) but then when they started counting the in person votes they were mostly Trump. Challenge him to explain how the in person votes could be so different to the mail in ones if there wasn’t a conspiracy. We're an emotional bunch. I'm gonna ignore it and let it settle. This is tense. He can go crazy for now. He's been a die hard Trumper since day 1. Its never been a topic between us this whole time. Not a single time. Ain't breaking that now. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7199 Posts
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
On November 06 2020 10:19 Husyelt wrote: Do you have a link to this? I haven't followed any news since the morning Best I got is this article with a bunch of tweet clips. Networks Cut Away, CNN Calls Trump ‘Pathetic’ After Speech Falsely Claiming He’s Been Cheated | ||
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