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Yosheekee
France111 Posts
God, they looked to arrogant, like they're better than everyone else. Some guy said : "Media will be the real loser here, i hope we all can do better" The main presenter answered "I don't need to do better" That's so pathetic. Damn. Never again. America is full of surprises, bad surprises. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On November 05 2020 17:56 Yosheekee wrote: Alright, I tried to listen to Fox news for a few minuts. I know they're republicans and trump supporters, but i like getting informations from all sources. Never again. I'm shocked. How in hell does a mainstream media can say on TV : THEY ARE STEALING THE ELECTION ! God, they looked to arrogant, like they're better than everyone else. Some guy said : "Media will be the real loser here, i hope we all can do better" The main presenter answered "I don't need to do better" That's so pathetic. Damn. Never again. America is full of surprises, bad surprises. I was watching NBC for a while and then switched to abc, as nbc was allways just talking about "what is the patch for biden" and "how can he possibly win". But that is a completly different level of bias. Holy shit | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24448 Posts
On November 05 2020 18:09 Mohdoo wrote: Woke up in the middle of the night, frantically checked Arizona results. Why can’t I just have an ending to this!! *monkey paw finger curls* But really I had consigned myself to either winning it sucking, then Biden, then Trump, then Biden, and now back to either but resolution would be nice. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On November 05 2020 18:15 GreenHorizons wrote: *monkey paw finger curls* But really I had consigned myself to either winning it sucking, then Biden, then Trump, then Biden, and now back to either but resolution would be nice. You’re right, I can’t let myself monkey paw this. I fully accept any and all delays. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27469 Posts
On November 05 2020 17:56 Yosheekee wrote: Alright, I tried to listen to Fox news for a few minuts. I know they're republicans and trump supporters, but i like getting informations from all sources. Never again. I'm shocked. How in hell does a mainstream media can say on TV : THEY ARE STEALING THE ELECTION ! God, they looked to arrogant, like they're better than everyone else. Some guy said : "Media will be the real loser here, i hope we all can do better" The main presenter answered "I don't need to do better" That's so pathetic. Damn. Never again. America is full of surprises, bad surprises. Oof. I wonder if down the road Fox et al will regret the uncorking, I’m not sure this genie of anger and discontent they’ve helped stoke will particularly want to go back into their bottle. These people who’ve been emboldened are not controllable in their anger, you can’t just say stop at some rubicon and have them fall into line. You give Trump leeway on mail-in ballot fraud rhetoric and act surprised that he’s agitating on Election Day, and that you can’t rein it in. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27469 Posts
On November 05 2020 18:09 Mohdoo wrote: Woke up in the middle of the night, frantically checked Arizona results. Why can’t I just have an ending to this!! It’s the electoral equivalent of edging. Some people are into that but not me, hurry it up dagnabbit! | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4558 Posts
I was pretty impressed tbh, from what I can tell they had Chris Christie and then a Democrat politician in the studio + lots of independent analysts, as well as a legal team on standby and each hour an update from Nate Silver. I got insights/reactions/predictions from both sides and never really thought I was watching a biased stream. So go ABC News, I guess? | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27469 Posts
On November 05 2020 18:23 Laurens wrote: I watched the entire Election Night on ABC News. That was a complete coincidence, it was the first stream that popped up when I searched for election night coverage in google. I was pretty impressed tbh, from what I can tell they had Chris Christie and then a Democrat politician in the studio + lots of independent analysts, as well as a legal team on standby and each hour an update from Nate Silver. I got insights/reactions/predictions from both sides and never really thought I was watching a biased stream. So go ABC News, I guess? The real place to be is the 2020 Election Day thread on Team Liquid | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On November 05 2020 18:25 WombaT wrote: The real place to be is the 2020 Election Day thread on Team Liquid On November 05 2020 18:23 Laurens wrote: I watched the entire Election Night on ABC News. That was a complete coincidence, it was the first stream that popped up when I searched for election night coverage in google. I was pretty impressed tbh, from what I can tell they had Chris Christie and then a Democrat politician in the studio + lots of independent analysts, as well as a legal team on standby and each hour an update from Nate Silver. I got insights/reactions/predictions from both sides and never really thought I was watching a biased stream. So go ABC News, I guess? Yes it s realy those 2 I feel like  | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
The live reporting has been awesome. Makes me nostalgic for bw when we all used to get together like this or osl/msl | ||
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Yosheekee
France111 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France8215 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4460 Posts
On November 05 2020 17:29 Zambrah wrote: I don't think Texas is going to flip blue, it'd require a very particular sort of candidate that I dont believe we have at the moment. In the 30+ year future though, yes, Republicans have a relatively bleak looking future. If Californians keep moving there, maybe. If Republicans keep the momentum with Hispanics going like they have in 2020, maybe not. Starr county, Texas, 96% Hispanic, 20%+ swing to Trump.All of those heavily Hispanic border counties swung big to Trump, even flipping a few.Seems like they may approve of the wall. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On November 05 2020 18:39 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: If Californians keep moving there, maybe. If Republicans keep the momentum with Hispanics going like they have in 2020, maybe not. Starr county, Texas, 96% Hispanic, 20%+ swing to Trump.All of those heavily Hispanic border counties swung big to Trump, even flipping a few.Seems like they may approve of the wall. My impression always was, that Trump was mostly doing politics for Anyone insight on that? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18486 Posts
On November 05 2020 18:44 dbRic1203 wrote: My impression always was, that Trump was mostly doing politics for Anyone insight on that? Mexican immigrants don't like other Mexican immigrants stealing their jerbs. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8215 Posts
On November 05 2020 18:44 dbRic1203 wrote: My impression always was, that Trump was mostly doing politics for Anyone insight on that? Many of them had a first hand experience of latin-american authoritarian socialism and somewhat got convinced that Biden was a communist. It's at least part of the story. If the liberals and progressives manage to dispel the notion that they are marxists and want to start a bolivarian revolution, they should win them back, but against the formidable propaganda machine of the right, it's gonna be hard. Of course it's not the whole story. And I suspect we should stop talking about "the latino vote". Immigrants from Cuba and immigrants from Mexico seem to have little in common and very different political behaviour. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On November 05 2020 18:53 Biff The Understudy wrote: Many of them had a first hand experience of latin-american authoritarian socialism and somewhat got convinced that Biden was a communist. It's at least part of the story. If the liberals and progressives manage to dispel the notion that they are marxists and want to start a bolivarian revolution, they should win them back, but against the formidable propaganda machine of the right, it's gonna be hard. Of course it's not the whole story. And I suspect we should stop talking about "the latino vote". Immigrants from Cuba and immigrants from Mexico seem to have little in common and very different political behaviour. Well I wasn t exclusively talking about latino votes, but also Afro Americans and Women | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4203 Posts
On November 05 2020 17:29 Zambrah wrote: I don't think Texas is going to flip blue, it'd require a very particular sort of candidate that I dont believe we have at the moment. In the 30+ year future though, yes, Republicans have a relatively bleak looking future. Well California was red before right? Guess you never know | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27469 Posts
On November 05 2020 18:44 dbRic1203 wrote: My impression always was, that Trump was mostly doing politics for Anyone insight on that? Perhaps we’ll get such insight down the line. It would be nice to actually hear from the horse’s mouth rather than educated guesswork. I could see some of the black vote swinging via exasperation with the Dems, Trump did make a point about black unemployment levels being at historic lows so maybe that was enough of a hook? I can see a smallish swing from people from every ethnic group who don’t like ‘identity politics’. I would have thought this would have remained relatively stable since 2016 but I suppose it could have increased as racial tensions have increased. Biden was running left of Clinton too, and progressive policies outside of race-specific and social ones don’t play particularly well across the minority chessboard. A Bernie Sanders never did well amongst African-Americans for example, so maybe Biden making some concessions to the progressive wing didn’t play well. As others have said Cuban Latinos specifically recoil at anything approaching left politics, so they came out for Trump rather hardcore. Those are all my pet theories of various levels of being fleshed out just off the top of my head, I’d like to hear what some of my more learned TL colleagues have on this. | ||
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