• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:01
CEST 05:01
KST 12:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy2Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3
Community News
Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)3BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th13
StarCraft 2
General
How herO can make history in the Code S S2 finals TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2) Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Ro8 - Group A [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Ro8 - Group B RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans?
Tourneys
[BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 4 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL19] Grand Finals
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Who’s Getting the Effortless-Chic Look Just Right?
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 17761 users

Coronavirus and You - Page 631

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 629 630 631 632 633 699 Next
Any and all updates regarding the COVID-19 will need a source provided. Please do your part in helping us to keep this thread maintainable and under control.

It is YOUR responsibility to fully read through the sources that you link, and you MUST provide a brief summary explaining what the source is about. Do not expect other people to do the work for you.

Conspiracy theories and fear mongering will absolutely not be tolerated in this thread. Expect harsh mod actions if you try to incite fear needlessly.

This is not a politics thread! You are allowed to post information regarding politics if it's related to the coronavirus, but do NOT discuss politics in here.

Added a disclaimer on page 662. Many need to post better.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10396 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-01 19:04:55
September 01 2022 19:04 GMT
#12601
On August 30 2022 04:11 BlackJack wrote:
I think it's obviously true that many people can't properly take care of themselves. In fact if there is any one thing that everyone in this thread can agree on it's that many people can't make the correct decisions for their health. The debate is how far we should go to get people to make the correct decisions.


Circling back to this - this weekend a city here is closing all the open spaces - parks, hiking trails because of a heat wave. It's noon right now and it's a crisp 88° F (31° C). Much too dangerous to go outside. Really brings back memories where they closed down all the beaches and hiking trails and outdoor activities and wrapped caution tape around all the picnic tables and playgrounds. Far too dangerous to go outside during COVID, must safer for everyone to huddle together indoors. Thanks, nanny state.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13845 Posts
September 01 2022 19:24 GMT
#12602
On September 02 2022 04:04 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 04:11 BlackJack wrote:
I think it's obviously true that many people can't properly take care of themselves. In fact if there is any one thing that everyone in this thread can agree on it's that many people can't make the correct decisions for their health. The debate is how far we should go to get people to make the correct decisions.


Circling back to this - this weekend a city here is closing all the open spaces - parks, hiking trails because of a heat wave. It's noon right now and it's a crisp 88° F (31° C). Much too dangerous to go outside. Really brings back memories where they closed down all the beaches and hiking trails and outdoor activities and wrapped caution tape around all the picnic tables and playgrounds. Far too dangerous to go outside during COVID, must safer for everyone to huddle together indoors. Thanks, nanny state.

I'm confused a little and I hope I don't have the right answer but I also just gotta ask. How do you think Covid and other diseases spread? Is the bolded line sarcasm and you don't think people interacting out doors would have spread covid?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10396 Posts
September 01 2022 19:43 GMT
#12603
yeah, sarcasm
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9234 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-01 21:42:30
September 01 2022 21:42 GMT
#12604
you're shortcutting so much here that it's hard to engage you on a basis of good faith.
passive quaranstream fan
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
September 06 2022 11:01 GMT
#12605
CanSino's inhaled covid vaccine just got emergency use approval in China.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/cansinos-inhaled-covid-19-vaccine-gets-emergency-use-approval-china-2920131
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-21 02:31:11
September 21 2022 02:30 GMT
#12606
Yesterday Joe Biden announced what we had known for quite a while now.The covid pandemic is over.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62959089.amp


Covid-19 pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden


President Joe Biden has declared the pandemic over in the US, even as the number of Americans who have died from Covid continues to rise.

"We're still doing a lot of work on it. But the pandemic is over," said Mr Biden in a television interview.
Statistics show that over 400 Americans on average are dying from the virus each day.

The head of the World Health Organization (WHO) said last week that the end of the pandemic was "in sight".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9234 Posts
September 21 2022 06:43 GMT
#12607
A broken clock is right twice a day...
passive quaranstream fan
Mikau313
Profile Joined January 2021
Netherlands230 Posts
September 21 2022 06:55 GMT
#12608
Cue a bunch of people who conflate "the pandemic is over" with "covid doesn't infect and kill anymore".

400 deaths in the US a day might be statistically insignificant, they're still 400 people that largely didn't need to die.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-23 02:53:26
September 22 2022 23:51 GMT
#12609
Hey i have a question for you people from US.
We are most likely traveling to US (Arizona) on December, from Finland.
Can anyone give a quick answer on the vaccination policies US enforces on foreign travelers, what do you need to have etc?

Or if not, where could i find relevant information about that?
The only thing i can find is this:
+ Show Spoiler +
Are you Fully Vaccinated for Air Travel to the United States?

You are considered fully vaccinated:

2 weeks (14 days) after your dose of an accepted single-dose vaccine
2 weeks (14 days) after your second dose of an accepted 2-dose series
2 weeks (14 days) after you received the full series of an accepted COVID-19 vaccine (not placebo) in a clinical trial
2 weeks (14 days) after you received 2 doses of any “mix-and-match” combination of accepted COVID-19 vaccines administered at least 17 days apart*

If you don’t meet these requirements, you are NOT considered fully vaccinated. A booster dose is not needed to meet this requirement.

A person who has received only one dose of an accepted 2-dose series and has recovered from COVID-19 does not meet this definition, and therefore is NOT considered fully vaccinated for travel to the United States.

*CDC has not recommended the use of mix-and-match COVID-19 vaccine primary series. However, such strategies are increasingly common in many countries outside of the United States. Therefore, for the purpose of interpreting vaccination records for travel to the United States, CDC will accept combinations of accepted COVID-19 vaccines.

I can't tell if a person traveling from where i am needs to have two or three vaccinations, and which are "legit" and which are not.
table for two on a tv tray
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13845 Posts
September 23 2022 03:33 GMT
#12610
You need two doses of a vaccination on the approved list for the United states. the four approved are Pfizer,Moderna, Novavax, and the J&J vaccine.

They need to have been administered 17 days apart and your vaccinated status starts 14 days after the second dose. You'll need to look for your countries method of documenting vaccine schedules.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 23 2022 05:20 GMT
#12611
On September 23 2022 12:33 Sermokala wrote:
You need two doses of a vaccination on the approved list for the United states. the four approved are Pfizer,Moderna, Novavax, and the J&J vaccine.

They need to have been administered 17 days apart and your vaccinated status starts 14 days after the second dose. You'll need to look for your countries method of documenting vaccine schedules.

Alright i think we are good then, thank you.
table for two on a tv tray
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 25 2022 14:37 GMT
#12612
My country finally dropping almost all restrictions by sept 30.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
October 04 2022 06:09 GMT
#12613
On September 25 2022 23:37 GoTuNk! wrote:
My country finally dropping almost all restrictions by sept 30.


Basically the same in Canada. I've got my 4th shot today, no side effects so far. I think life is back to "normal" beyond the change to wfh for me and my circle now.

Everyone is entrenched in their positions on all sides this far into the pandemic, so all you can do is manage your own circle. 4th doses aren't particularly popular right now, so it's basically free for all walk-in from what I can tell.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1913 Posts
October 04 2022 08:19 GMT
#12614
On September 21 2022 15:55 Mikau313 wrote:
Cue a bunch of people who conflate "the pandemic is over" with "covid doesn't infect and kill anymore".

400 deaths in the US a day might be statistically insignificant, they're still 400 people that largely didn't need to die.


By this line of thinking, you are giving COVID-19 related deaths a very special moral treatment which I find irrational.

There are a multitude of conditions which cause thousands of deaths every year. Ironically, COVID-19 and all their sub variants have not caused more deaths than smoking does in a single year.

Once Covid numbers are comparable to seasonal flu, we should treat it the same way. The death numbers are quickly declining in the US.

Freaking out is not healthy.
Buff the siegetank
Mikau313
Profile Joined January 2021
Netherlands230 Posts
October 04 2022 09:51 GMT
#12615
On October 04 2022 17:19 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2022 15:55 Mikau313 wrote:
Cue a bunch of people who conflate "the pandemic is over" with "covid doesn't infect and kill anymore".

400 deaths in the US a day might be statistically insignificant, they're still 400 people that largely didn't need to die.


By this line of thinking, you are giving COVID-19 related deaths a very special moral treatment which I find irrational.

There are a multitude of conditions which cause thousands of deaths every year. Ironically, COVID-19 and all their sub variants have not caused more deaths than smoking does in a single year.

Once Covid numbers are comparable to seasonal flu, we should treat it the same way. The death numbers are quickly declining in the US.

Freaking out is not healthy.


I always love it when the smoking argument gets brought up, because we get increasingly strict regulations on what you can smoke and where every year to prevent smoking related deaths. We, as a society, do a LOT to try and prevent smoking deaths and illnesses.

The way we treat smoking is an argument for stricter covid-related measures, not less strict.

And I'm not arguing for strict measures at this point in the pandemic (or post pandemic). I'm saying we should still be aware of the fact that Covid is here and is killing people, and act with common sense accordingly.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9234 Posts
October 04 2022 13:40 GMT
#12616
Uh, yeah.
Second hand smoke kills.
Hence smoking is banned in most bars and restaurants and clubs.
Though YMMV depending on country and location.

I wish I could get rid of the stench with a mask. Unfortunately doesn't work.
But masks work against COVID, yay.
passive quaranstream fan
Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
671 Posts
October 13 2022 13:09 GMT
#12617
Pfizer at European Parliament hearing actually admitting that they didnt test if vaccine stops transmission...

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/pfizer-did-not-know-whether-covid-vaccine-stopped-transmission-before-rollout-executive-admits/news-story/f307f28f794e173ac017a62784fec414

Full hearing:



Dutch MEP Rob Roos:

“Was the Pfizer Covid vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market?” Mr Roos asked.

“If not, please say it clearly. If yes, are you willing to share the data with this committee? And I really want a straight answer, yes or no, and I’m looking forward to it.” "

Ms Small:

“Regarding the question around, um, did we know about stopping the immunisation [sic] before it entered the market? No, heh,” she said.

“Uh, these, um, you know, we had to really move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place in the market, and from that point of view we had to do everything at risk. I think Dr Bourla, even though he’s not here, would turn around and say to you himself, ‘If not us then who?’”

Bolded: Seems like situation of the market >>> research

Honestly, what can be said about that...
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21590 Posts
October 13 2022 13:22 GMT
#12618
Seems an entirely reasonable statement if you don't go in looking for wrong things.
The market, aka literally everyone, was clambering for something that would reduce Covid deaths, perfection is the enemy of progress.

Would you preferred that there had been no vaccine on the promise that maybe some day in the undetermined future their might be a better one? Hell no.

Whether or not Pfizer was tested for stopping transmission doesn't matter to its deployment, with or without that data Pfizer had the best vaccine available to prevent Covid deaths and ignoring that is just trying to score political points with the sceptics through a failed use of hindsight.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Vinekh
Profile Joined September 2021
131 Posts
October 13 2022 14:30 GMT
#12619
Never mind the people that lost jobs and their human rights, because of the "COVID passes", that were implemented on the basis of claims, that the vaccines prevented transmission. Now it turns out that these claims, at least in the beginning, were completely baseless.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13845 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-13 16:17:47
October 13 2022 16:16 GMT
#12620
On October 13 2022 23:30 Vinekh wrote:
Never mind the people that lost jobs and their human rights, because of the "COVID passes", that were implemented on the basis of claims, that the vaccines prevented transmission. Now it turns out that these claims, at least in the beginning, were completely baseless.

Thats not why the lockdowns happened. They happened from the start to stop deaths by stopping the hospital system from being overwhelmed.

The basis for why we had the lockdowns were based in science and were proven correct.

Also the dead lost their jobs and human rights. As well to a lesser degree those that suffered from long covid. If we had a president that believed in science over politics like you seem to do we would have had less people lose their jobs and human rights.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Prev 1 629 630 631 632 633 699 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #15
HiGhDrA vs ShamelessLIVE!
TBD vs ArT
xJustxJordanx6
Liquipedia
Replay Cast
00:00
uThermal 2v2 Circuit: May
CranKy Ducklings115
Liquipedia
OSC
21:00
Mid Season Playoffs
ArT vs ReBellioN
HonMonO vs Ziomek
Shameless vs LunaSea
MilkiCow vs GgMaChine
Moja vs HiGhDrA
Jumy vs TBD
Demi vs NightPhoenix
Solar vs Cham
SteadfastSC115
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft349
RuFF_SC2 165
Nina 121
SteadfastSC115
Ketroc 25
EnDerr 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 730
Sharp 93
Icarus 13
Dota 2
monkeys_forever396
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1001
taco 518
Other Games
summit1g11224
C9.Mang01833
shahzam1271
ViBE258
ToD161
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream1860
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH274
• Hupsaiya 69
• HeavenSC 27
• practicex 20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 15
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift6169
• Stunt180
Other Games
• Scarra1132
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
7h 59m
HiGhDrA vs Nicoract
MaNa vs HiGhDrA
HiGhDrA vs Reynor
Nicoract vs Reynor
MaNa vs Nicoract
MaNa vs Reynor
MaxPax vs Spirit
Krystianer vs Spirit
OSC
9h 59m
BSL 2v2 ProLeague S3
15h 59m
Korean StarCraft League
23h 59m
SOOP
1d 5h
sOs vs Percival
CranKy Ducklings
1d 6h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 7h
Cheesadelphia
1d 11h
CSO Cup
1d 13h
BSL: ProLeague
1d 14h
Hawk vs UltrA
Sziky vs spx
TerrOr vs JDConan
[ Show More ]
GSL Code S
2 days
Rogue vs herO
Classic vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
BSL: ProLeague
2 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
Cross vs Doodle
MadiNho vs Dragon
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs sOs
Zoun vs Clem
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Serral vs SHIN
Solar vs Cham
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.