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Any and all updates regarding the COVID-19 will need a source provided. Please do your part in helping us to keep this thread maintainable and under control.

It is YOUR responsibility to fully read through the sources that you link, and you MUST provide a brief summary explaining what the source is about. Do not expect other people to do the work for you.

Conspiracy theories and fear mongering will absolutely not be tolerated in this thread. Expect harsh mod actions if you try to incite fear needlessly.

This is not a politics thread! You are allowed to post information regarding politics if it's related to the coronavirus, but do NOT discuss politics in here.

Added a disclaimer on page 662. Many need to post better.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 10 2021 18:59 GMT
#10761
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teeel141
Profile Joined August 2021
93 Posts
December 10 2021 18:59 GMT
#10762
Also you can look at countries in africa too, even lower vaccination rate but theyre doing completely fine with no lockdowns either. Again the only mitigating factor is younger population. It could even be because of access to ivermectin or atleast partly due to that. Either way poorer countries with almost no vaccination no lockdowns doing completely fine no collapse no anything is very very relevant.

User was banned for this post.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22452 Posts
December 10 2021 19:01 GMT
#10763
On December 11 2021 03:53 teeel141 wrote:
Where are the reports of the bodies then?
I believe India, due to primarily religious reasons, is very big on cremation. Its a lot easier to get rid of a few million dead if you keep the fires burning 24/7 rather then having to put them into the ground.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
December 10 2021 19:04 GMT
#10764
On December 11 2021 03:57 teeel141 wrote:
It's obvious that natural immunity is better than vaccine immunity. Especially when it comes to transmission.

No.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 10 2021 19:07 GMT
#10765
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teeel141
Profile Joined August 2021
93 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-10 19:08:02
December 10 2021 19:07 GMT
#10766
On December 11 2021 04:01 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2021 03:53 teeel141 wrote:
Where are the reports of the bodies then?
I believe India, due to primarily religious reasons, is very big on cremation. Its a lot easier to get rid of a few million dead if you keep the fires burning 24/7 rather then having to put them into the ground.


That would be very noticable like it was in May of 2021 and only briefly. Hasn't happened since.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 10 2021 19:09 GMT
#10767
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46200 Posts
December 10 2021 20:38 GMT
#10768
On December 11 2021 03:57 teeel141 wrote:
It's obvious that natural immunity is better than vaccine immunity. Especially when it comes to transmission.


I'm not sure if your statement is true (please provide a recent source), but keep in mind that natural immunity requires you to get covid in the first place.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
December 10 2021 21:03 GMT
#10769
On December 11 2021 03:58 Mohdoo wrote:
TL mods, I really think you’re totally wrong about “disinformation is fine because someone argues with them”, it is overly idealistic and ridiculous. Just delete it. This is extremely negligent on your part.


Sorry man. Was out shopping with my wife.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16338 Posts
December 10 2021 21:15 GMT
#10770
On December 10 2021 19:50 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2021 18:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 10 2021 17:23 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On December 10 2021 10:30 NewSunshine wrote:
On December 10 2021 09:34 GoTuNk! wrote:
On December 10 2021 06:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 10 2021 03:35 JimmiC wrote:
Some good news for a change! A researcher has come up with a coating for maks that is extremely effective at stopping covid transmission.


https://ca.yahoo.com/news/covid19-mask-coating-spread-172603943.html


Awesome! These will be most beneficial for people who already side with the science and medicine, of course, rather than those refusing to even wear masks.


Have you considered some young/vaccinated people know they have a higher chance to get covid without mask, but just, *gasps* don't care about mitigating further a minuscule risk?

The risk was miniscule enough to kill millions across the world.


Millions of young/vaccinated people?

As a Norwegian during winter I actually quite enjoy wearing a mask and sometimes wear one even when walking by myself outside, but if you're young, vaccinated and asymptomatic then I really can't picture that making a significant difference in terms of how likely you are to get seriously ill (even though the chance of getting covid increases, young and vaccinated people are really unlikely to be seriously harmed by that illness) or to infect others with serious illness (even though asymptomatic people can spread covid, a vast majority of asymptomatic people don't actually have it).

yes yes, wearing masks while using public transportation or crowded places during periods where regional infection is high makes sense and is just good and doesn't really come with negative side effects, but cmon, Gotunks specifies 'young/vaccinated people' - the risks for this group is indeed very small. I guess he could have added 'without obvious comorbidities, but imo it's pretty much implied. There aren't millions of dead within this group.

I fail to see how any of that changes it being selfish and stupid as long as the mask can stop some young people from infecting others. Not to mention that the risk is not as miniscule as people like to pretend even for young people. But of course you only want to look at death rates again, right?


It's becoming clear that COVID won't be eradicated. Are you committed to wearing a mask for the rest of your life? Or is there some point when you think it will become reasonable to be a selfish dickbag?

No. It will be reasonable to stop wearing masks when we as a society decide it is no longer essential. Not when some douchebags who think they know better than medical experts decide. For starters we could wait with that until the hospitals are not in danger of being completely overwhelmed anymore.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16338 Posts
December 10 2021 21:19 GMT
#10771
On December 11 2021 03:58 Mohdoo wrote:
TL mods, I really think you’re totally wrong about “disinformation is fine because someone argues with them”, it is overly idealistic and ridiculous. Just delete it. This is extremely negligent on your part.

Thank you. It was really stupid policy.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-10 21:25:03
December 10 2021 21:22 GMT
#10772
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NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
December 10 2021 22:21 GMT
#10773
So, how's the naming process work once they get to Omega? Do they just keep counting with the Greek Alphabet like Alpha-Beta -> Alpha-Gamma or what?
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4427 Posts
December 10 2021 22:47 GMT
#10774
On December 11 2021 07:21 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
So, how's the naming process work once they get to Omega? Do they just keep counting with the Greek Alphabet like Alpha-Beta -> Alpha-Gamma or what?

No, I've heard they will move on to constellation names once all the greek alphabet names are used up.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-variants-could-be-named-after-constellations-once-greek-alphabet-is-used-up-who-official-says-12376314

COVID-19 variants could be named after constellations once Greek alphabet is used up, WHO official says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27190 Posts
December 10 2021 23:00 GMT
#10775
On December 11 2021 07:21 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
So, how's the naming process work once they get to Omega? Do they just keep counting with the Greek Alphabet like Alpha-Beta -> Alpha-Gamma or what?

Public vote so we can get Corona McCovidface

@Ye Olde Mod team, thanks for that think it’s the correct call.

I’m ok with people bringing in dumb shit here and being corrected, god knows I do it myself.

Teel seemed determined to bring in nonsense gotchas they found wherever, not actually engage or expand on said points. There’s a consistency to talking errant nonsense that for me is where the line between being misinformed and trying to misinform people lies
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
December 10 2021 23:14 GMT
#10776
We should return to using national identities for the coronavirus variants. China strain (original), UK variant (actually called that), South Africa strain (actually called that), India strain (Delta), and I suppose Omicron can be the Africa strain.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 10 2021 23:25 GMT
#10777
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27190 Posts
December 10 2021 23:29 GMT
#10778
We could name it after the person who was first confirmed case of each variant?

I quite like the idea of a ‘Dave strain’ for example, although knowing how silly people are this could backfire with people bugchasing to get the dubious honour.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 11 2021 00:02 GMT
#10779
TL-related aside: I was just listening to the news while eating supper and they had a story on COVID, gatherings, and international travel. Suddenly, in the middle of the story I immediately recognized a voice being interviewed so I looked over at the TV to confirm and sure enough they were talking to TLO about the topic.

Here is the web version of the story: https://globalnews.ca/news/8441328/holiday-safe-gathering-advice-covid/
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-11 00:09:45
December 11 2021 00:07 GMT
#10780
On December 11 2021 08:00 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2021 07:21 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
So, how's the naming process work once they get to Omega? Do they just keep counting with the Greek Alphabet like Alpha-Beta -> Alpha-Gamma or what?

Public vote so we can get Corona McCovidface

@Ye Olde Mod team, thanks for that think it’s the correct call.

I’m ok with people bringing in dumb shit here and being corrected, god knows I do it myself.

Teel seemed determined to bring in nonsense gotchas they found wherever, not actually engage or expand on said points. There’s a consistency to talking errant nonsense that for me is where the line between being misinformed and trying to misinform people lies

Glad you pointed this out. It's probably no surprise that I'm personally for active argument, regardless of how dumb the point is, to draw people closer in understanding each other's perspective and what makes them believe a certain thing over another. It's an entirely different thing to just bring up talking points and not really back up what brings themselves to agree with said points; it's not exactly harmful, but it is annoying.
On December 11 2021 09:02 Ben... wrote:
TL-related aside: I was just listening to the news while eating supper and they had a story on COVID, gatherings, and international travel. Suddenly, in the middle of the story I immediately recognized a voice being interviewed so I looked over at the TV to confirm and sure enough they were talking to TLO about the topic.

Here is the web version of the story: https://globalnews.ca/news/8441328/holiday-safe-gathering-advice-covid/

Ha! that's awesome ;p
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