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Any and all updates regarding the COVID-19 will need a source provided. Please do your part in helping us to keep this thread maintainable and under control.

It is YOUR responsibility to fully read through the sources that you link, and you MUST provide a brief summary explaining what the source is about. Do not expect other people to do the work for you.

Conspiracy theories and fear mongering will absolutely not be tolerated in this thread. Expect harsh mod actions if you try to incite fear needlessly.

This is not a politics thread! You are allowed to post information regarding politics if it's related to the coronavirus, but do NOT discuss politics in here.

Added a disclaimer on page 662. Many need to post better.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
March 12 2020 19:36 GMT
#521
I'm in PA, not too far from some confirmed hot spots, word is we'll be working from home soon, next week if not tomorrow. This is spreading too fast to put it off any longer than that.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
March 12 2020 19:44 GMT
#522
My business is going to suffer due to how we service - half of our staff is inspectors in the NYC area that go to peoples' homes to inspect. People are already being paranoid about letting us into properties in fear of contamination. Small office staff going to transition to work-from-home for the time being, which isn't the worst thing in the world. However, we make our money off of working in peoples' homes/workplaces, and many people are already scared of cross-contamination. Our business is currently coming off of its strongest year yet, but this will surely put a dent in that.

In the words of Patrick Star, "Don't touch me, I'm sterile."
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 12 2020 19:46 GMT
#523
https://www.lemonde.fr/planete/live/2020/03/12/suspension-des-voyages-aux-etats-unis-etat-d-alerte-en-france-la-crise-du-coronavirus-en-direct_6032730_3244.html
Source in french
but tldr : France prepares itself for an "Italy Scenario", schools will be closed on monday and people unable to work from home will be taken care by the government.
Testing will now be reserved for sick people at risk/hospital staff. Unless it's an emergency, you're not supposed to go to your doctor/hospital if you're showing symptoms.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
March 12 2020 19:47 GMT
#524
On March 13 2020 04:36 NewSunshine wrote:
I'm in PA, not too far from some confirmed hot spots, word is we'll be working from home soon, next week if not tomorrow. This is spreading too fast to put it off any longer than that.

My job and I are both near confirmed cases and my boss wonders what is so bad about the flu

@_@ maddening
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
March 12 2020 19:47 GMT
#525
On March 13 2020 04:36 NewSunshine wrote:
I'm in PA, not too far from some confirmed hot spots, word is we'll be working from home soon, next week if not tomorrow. This is spreading too fast to put it off any longer than that.

I'm right next to Montgomery county which was the first hotspot in the Philadelphia area.

This morning we were initially instructed to work from home tomorrow, that has since escalated to preparation for full teams to be working remotely for the next 2 weeks if not longer.

I can't believe how quickly this has ramped up in the last 24 hours
I carve marble busts of assassinated world leaders - PM for a quote
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
March 12 2020 19:49 GMT
#526
On March 13 2020 04:47 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2020 04:36 NewSunshine wrote:
I'm in PA, not too far from some confirmed hot spots, word is we'll be working from home soon, next week if not tomorrow. This is spreading too fast to put it off any longer than that.

My job and I are both near confirmed cases and my boss wonders what is so bad about the flu

@_@ maddening

Anybody who says anything about this being like the flu should be corrected, though I realize that’s not easy when it’s your boss. Luckily for me, my boss is taking this extremely seriously.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-12 19:57:27
March 12 2020 19:56 GMT
#527
On March 13 2020 04:49 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2020 04:47 Mohdoo wrote:
On March 13 2020 04:36 NewSunshine wrote:
I'm in PA, not too far from some confirmed hot spots, word is we'll be working from home soon, next week if not tomorrow. This is spreading too fast to put it off any longer than that.

My job and I are both near confirmed cases and my boss wonders what is so bad about the flu

@_@ maddening

Anybody who says anything about this being like the flu should be corrected, though I realize that’s not easy when it’s your boss. Luckily for me, my boss is taking this extremely seriously.


Honestly I feel like I don't know as much as I should. I just know the death rate is higher than the flu but I don't feel like I actually know what I'm talking about.

Anyone have a good summary of Corona vs Flu?
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
March 12 2020 20:05 GMT
#528
After a failed post in the USPol due to concurrent discussion, I'm reposting that where it belongs : here is a full blown statistical analysis on containment, propagation and mitigation, applicable to what's happening in Europe and the US mostly. I won't really go into detail in the description, just have a look, it's a good read :

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca
NoiR
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28731 Posts
March 12 2020 20:07 GMT
#529
The big differences are a) mortality rate (between like 8 and 30+ times higher for corona than regular flu, depending on which country you survey), b) amount of people requiring intensive care (I don't know numbers here but even for young people, who, to be fair, are very unlikely to die, are much higher than flu numbers) and c) that the incubation period and that you can infect people without showing symptoms mimics that of viral strains people design when playing pandemic or plague inc attempting to kill off the entire world.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23571 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-12 20:46:22
March 12 2020 20:40 GMT
#530
K-12 Schools are finally shutting down along the I-5 corridor in WA. That's a lot of students and employees including over 2,000 homeless students displaced.

www.heraldnet.com
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
March 12 2020 20:44 GMT
#531
On March 13 2020 05:07 Liquid`Drone wrote:
The big differences are a) mortality rate (between like 8 and 30+ times higher for corona than regular flu, depending on which country you survey), b) amount of people requiring intensive care (I don't know numbers here but even for young people, who, to be fair, are very unlikely to die, are much higher than flu numbers) and c) that the incubation period and that you can infect people without showing symptoms mimics that of viral strains people design when playing pandemic or plague inc attempting to kill off the entire world.


Everything is still preliminary but this is a good summary of current knowledge.

Also,

1) its passed around in a slightly different manner (more surface-dependent, lives on surfaces longer, doesnt stay airborne long).

2) Kills you in a different way (the pathology is different).
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 12 2020 20:50 GMT
#532
On March 13 2020 05:07 Liquid`Drone wrote:
c) that the incubation period and that you can infect people without showing symptoms mimics that of viral strains people design when playing pandemic or plague inc attempting to kill off the entire world.

It's troubling how eerily similar the spread of coronavirus is to the diseases I make from Pandemic. Hopefully it doesn't evolve extremely deadly symptoms once everyone is infected...
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
March 12 2020 20:54 GMT
#533
On March 13 2020 05:50 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2020 05:07 Liquid`Drone wrote:
c) that the incubation period and that you can infect people without showing symptoms mimics that of viral strains people design when playing pandemic or plague inc attempting to kill off the entire world.

It's troubling how eerily similar the spread of coronavirus is to the diseases I make from Pandemic. Hopefully it doesn't evolve extremely deadly symptoms once everyone is infected...


"If only we had known we'd turn into giant masses of spores and explode 6 months later"
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
March 12 2020 21:32 GMT
#534
On March 13 2020 04:17 aseq wrote:
Netherlands is finally tuning in too. From waaay too lackluster to necessary measures in 1 day. From today, gatherings of over 100 people are off, sports clubs are closed, people are supposed to work from home whenever possible. Schools are still open, though. But no police checks and fines, as far as I can see. Hope people start taking this seriously, the mentality is still mostly 'nothing bad will happen to me'.

And I still don't understand the toilet paper hype. 2 rolls can last me a month, it doesn't make sense to have bigger TP than food supplies?

During the time of the month a roll can be used in about 2 days.
That's 125 sheets per day.
passive quaranstream fan
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
March 12 2020 21:39 GMT
#535
Do we have data yet to indicate average death rate of, say, 73 or 78 year old men? With all these reports of Trump hanging out with Corona peeps, I can't help but feel like there's a huge elephant in the room.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 12 2020 21:52 GMT
#536
On March 13 2020 06:39 Mohdoo wrote:
Do we have data yet to indicate average death rate of, say, 73 or 78 year old men? With all these reports of Trump hanging out with Corona peeps, I can't help but feel like there's a huge elephant in the room.

We have this data, which suggests a low double / high single digit percentage chance of death. That also would suggest a significantly higher percentage chance of being very ill and requiring a hospital stay than 10 percent.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Sqalevon
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands523 Posts
March 12 2020 21:53 GMT
#537
So I got planetickets to visit a friend of mine in Macedon in April. Now the government in Macedon just announced they will quarantine any visitors from Europe for two weeks and I cant get a refund on the tickets because there is no negative travel advice to Macedon. So that kinda sucks..
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4553 Posts
March 12 2020 22:11 GMT
#538
Belgium cancels all recreational events, closes schools, pubs and restaurants. Shops close in the weekends, open in the week only.

+ Show Spoiler +
Drastische maatregelen in België om coronaverspreiding tegen te houden: alle lessen opgeschort, alle cafés en restaurants sluiten vanaf morgenavond

https://www.hln.be/binnenland/drastische-maatregelen-in-belgie-om-coronaverspreiding-tegen-te-houden-alle-lessen-opgeschort-alle-cafes-en-restaurants-sluiten-vanaf-morgenavond~ae51a56a/

Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 12 2020 22:17 GMT
#539
All public schools in my state have been closed as of Monday but my wife's school hasn't. She works in daycare, so the same thing but for children who are younger than 5 and there are no public ones available (though the state will give vouchers for some individuals).
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 12 2020 23:55 GMT
#540
On March 13 2020 07:11 Laurens wrote:
Belgium cancels all recreational events, closes schools, pubs and restaurants. Shops close in the weekends, open in the week only.

+ Show Spoiler +
Drastische maatregelen in België om coronaverspreiding tegen te houden: alle lessen opgeschort, alle cafés en restaurants sluiten vanaf morgenavond

https://www.hln.be/binnenland/drastische-maatregelen-in-belgie-om-coronaverspreiding-tegen-te-houden-alle-lessen-opgeschort-alle-cafes-en-restaurants-sluiten-vanaf-morgenavond~ae51a56a/


That's wild, Belgium without pubs. For youngish western Europeans this is starting to become the biggest event in our lifetimes and three weeks ago nobody gave a shit except making bad jokes about China.

Netherlands will probably be too slow with everything since making money is our nations #1 priority
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