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micronesia
United States24579 Posts
On December 08 2018 00:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Also coming with a 'counter report'. That'll be a great read I'm betting. Analysts are saying the idea of a counter report is bologna assuming the initial report is generally factual. The typical response to a damning factual report is not a counter report, despite bluffs that a counter report is coming. The bluff implies legitimacy where there isn't any. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On December 08 2018 00:39 micronesia wrote: Analysts are saying the idea of a counter report is bologna assuming the initial report is generally factual. The typical response to a damning factual report is not a counter report, despite bluffs that a counter report is coming. The bluff implies legitimacy where there isn't any. Trump says the counter report is 87 pages ATM. Even tho that is certainly a lie, the idea of Guliani, a person I'm certain has at least early onset dementia, authoring a report dozens of pages long is fascinating. The amount of lies, red herrings, and strawmen that will be in it will be epic. I could even see it becoming a standard document to review in law school legal writing courses on what not to do. Tho I may be disappointed if Trump's other, slightly more competent, attorneys edit it significantly. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21378 Posts
On December 08 2018 00:39 micronesia wrote: The point isn't to disprove what is coming out towards the general public or courts.Analysts are saying the idea of a counter report is bologna assuming the initial report is generally factual. The typical response to a damning factual report is not a counter report, despite bluffs that a counter report is coming. The bluff implies legitimacy where there isn't any. Its to keep the supporters in line and give them a lie to live. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15401 Posts
On December 08 2018 00:49 Gorsameth wrote: The point isn't to disprove what is coming out towards the general public or courts. Its to keep the supporters in line and give them a lie to live. Yeah I expect the intent of the counter report to mainly be social engineering rather than legal strategy. | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15401 Posts
On December 08 2018 01:53 IyMoon wrote: Over under on 2pm EST Muller report drop? Are you saying you think it'll be at 2 PM EST? I don't think I understand what you mean. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22207 Posts
On December 08 2018 01:58 Mohdoo wrote: Are you saying you think it'll be at 2 PM EST? I don't think I understand what you mean. he's just asking if people think it'll be before or after 2pm | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On December 08 2018 02:04 ahswtini wrote: he's just asking if people think it'll be before or after 2pm Correct. It has to be in by 5pm EST today. Will it be before 2pm est or after | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21378 Posts
On December 08 2018 03:33 Ayaz2810 wrote: Bunch of em got thread banned. I believe they now reside in a blog by GreenHorizons (who is also thread banned).I don't pop in here as much as I should. What happened to the right-wingers like uh... Danglars and those other guys (I'm drawing a blank on names)? I haven't seen any of their ridiculousness lately. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 08 2018 03:39 Gorsameth wrote: Bunch of em got thread banned. I believe they now reside in a blog by GreenHorizons (who is also thread banned). To clarify this further, some of them got thread banned after several chances and others just moved on. And a lot of the center left and left leaning posters became less tolerant of argument they felt were in bad faith. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15401 Posts
On December 08 2018 01:53 IyMoon wrote: Over under on 2pm EST Muller report drop? I hereby bet you 8.6m it will be after 1pm PST | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Sermokala
United States13754 Posts
On December 08 2018 03:47 Plansix wrote: To clarify this further, some of them got thread banned after several chances and others just moved on. And a lot of the center left and left leaning posters became less tolerant of argument they felt were in bad faith. To be fair its pretty shitty to be a right leaning poster trying to argue in good faith at the moment. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/07/rex-tillerson-trump-undisciplined-doesnt-like-read-tries-do-illegal-things/?utm_term=.bb25e8e2d05a | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21378 Posts
On December 08 2018 03:59 Sermokala wrote: I respect the few Republicans that said "this is not my party anymore' and peaced out (like BiologyMajor).To be fair its pretty shitty to be a right leaning poster trying to argue in good faith at the moment. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15401 Posts
On December 08 2018 04:03 Plansix wrote: Tillerson putting Trump on blast reminds me how much Trump disliked Tillerson. There are some really good quotes in there, but the "tries to do illegal things" pretty much sums up everyone's job in the West Wing. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/07/rex-tillerson-trump-undisciplined-doesnt-like-read-tries-do-illegal-things/?utm_term=.bb25e8e2d05a My favorite part is that it likely makes sense to be as vague as "illegal things" since it was likely a wide array of things. "So what if we declared war on illegal immigrants" "Mm...can't really do that" "Well what if we had attack jets use missiles on the areas in Mexico before they get here" "Definitely not" "You are so useless" | ||
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Sermokala
United States13754 Posts
On December 08 2018 04:05 Gorsameth wrote: I respect the few Republicans that said "this is not my party anymore' and peaced out (like BiologyMajor). Yeah but when this happens then Minnesota becomes a swing state and I hate it when that happens. | ||
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