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pmh
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Has everyone lost his head? That will never ever happen,get real. Trump is fine,he did more or less pass the first real test (the mid terms). Why would republicans want get rid of him,he gave them everything they ever dreamed of. He has to much support to be replaced. In 2 years democrats can try again against trump. | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On November 08 2018 21:11 pmh wrote: People are now seriously discussing the possibility of a trump coup and the military getting involved. Has everyone lost his head? That will never ever happen,get real. Trump is fine,he did more or less pass the first real test (the mid terms). Why would republicans want get rid of him,he gave them everything they ever dreamed of. He has to much support to be replaced. In 2 years democrats can try again against trump. They should want to get rid of him because he is actively interfering in the Mueller investigation. Even Lindsey Graham said there would be "holy hell to pay" if he ever fired Sessions. It's time for them to step up. But they won't. They're too afraid of what the investigation is going to reveal about the Republican fundraising apparatus and its ties to Russia. The entire party is in a panic. The wave of retirements was not a coincidence. Especially Paul Ryan. Anyway, everyone should be calling for his removal for this attack on the rule of law in America. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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oBlade
United States6015 Posts
On November 08 2018 22:43 Saryph wrote: So now the White House has released doctored video from Info Wars to justify removing Acosta's press pass. Talk about fake news. Do you mean what Sanders tweeted? How was that doctored? To me it looks the same as the C-Span broadcast except grainy Twitter quality. Also, Jim Acosta went on CNN and told people he never touched her, when there is video of him touching her and saying "pardon me, ma'am," presumably because he just touched her. Why wouldn't he admit that? Be the bigger man and so on. | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 08 2018 22:53 oBlade wrote: Do you mean what Sanders tweeted? How was that doctored? To me it looks the same as the C-Span broadcast except grainy Twitter quality. Also, Jim Acosta went on CNN and told people he never touched her, when there is video of him touching her and saying "pardon me, ma'am," presumably because he just touched her. Why wouldn't he admit that? Be the bigger man and so on. It is not. They have removed frames to make his actions seem more aggressive. And the video is straight off of info wars, which is a conspiracy theory website. Sanders tweeted it out. They revoked his pass for a stupid, made up reason rather than him not following the rules and asking follow up questions. And now they are doubling down by releasing doctored videos. Edit: here is someone breaking down how it was doctored - | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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brian
United States9639 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
however, if the economy crashes and trump continues to act like dogshit anything could happen. | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
But things like releasing doctored footage to paint a false narrative, revoking press passes, interfering with an independent investigation, and so on are really worrying to me, and I wish they would be as worrying to everyone else. Releasing doctored tape to justify revoking a press pass in retaliation of critics especially seems to be a new low to me, and I am honestly worried about where it goes from here. I consider myself a reasonable person, but I have no delusion that republicans in congress are going to do nothing about any of this. That's not to say this is the last straw or anything. The last straw for me regarding Trump was like 2.5 years ago. But I guess I'm finally starting to realize and accept the fact that many republicans are fine with the total destruction of government accountability and neutrality as long as it's their guy in charge when it goes down. Meanwhile, let's check in on the liberal media machine.... "Democrats win; Trump panics" - We didn't win Lawrence, we just didn't die. It's not an accomplishment. In my honest opinion, democrats lost pretty hard Tuesday. We showed that, with all the outrage, all the "get out the vote" outreach (of which there was A FUCKING LOT), and all the injustice going on every day, the best we can do is compete. Meanwhile every republican that opposed Trump in any pseudo-meaningful way is gone. Trump's stranglehold over the party is 100% at this point. After the results Tuesday, every republican knows they have to get in line or face the consequences. Of course this emboldens Trump to do even more heinous things. Thanks for feeding me a bunch of sugar though, Lawrence. Placate the masses for those clicks. Trump Mocks GOP Candidates who Didn't Embrace Him - "Oh dear! He acts so inappropriate at times!!" Why can't we just call it what it is? Trump is (smartly - never thought I'd actually say that about Trump) broadcasting to anyone paying attention that he has 100% control over the republican party, and if you don't kiss the ring, you are gone. Oh Colbert, how far you have fallen. In other news, there was a mass shooting in California early this morning. My heart goes out to those who were wounded or killed. No idea if it was politically motivated yet, but it did happen the day after the election results, so I'd say it's slightly more likely than normal. Anybody have any suggestions for a good country to move to? Hypothetically, of course. | ||
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oBlade
United States6015 Posts
In the first video I definitely get it when the video on the right finishes the chop first, although I think it's reaching to say she got to the mic first in the other video. But in the second "further analysis" tweet with them right next to each other it really looks like everything is happening in the same order just slightly earlier in the video on the left, like the guy who made the comparison simply couldn't sync them any closer. Further, at the end he says "the videos are in sync again," now why would they be in sync again? They sped something up and then slowed something down later to make up time so nobody would notice? Is that how sinister and competent Infowars is? Or is this just a different quality video. I mean the whole thing is in the place of like 2 seconds at most so we'd be talking about millisecond differences. Because if true it'd have to be quite obviously doctored for you to blame the WH for intentionally tweeting a fake video rather than just the version they saw that zoomed in on the incident specifically. Which, speaking of, this seems like a distraction from what we can all see clearly in the agreed-upon C-span version. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
On November 09 2018 00:02 oBlade wrote: I'm having trouble seeing it as quickly as the rest of you and this is despite spending over 20 minutes staring. Was it really so obvious when you watched it yourselves or did you kind of take everyone's consensus? In the first video I definitely get it when the video on the right finishes the chop first, although I think it's reaching to say she got to the mic first in the other video. But in the second "further analysis" tweet with them right next to each other it really looks like everything is happening in the same order just slightly earlier in the video on the left, like the guy who made the comparison simply couldn't sync them any closer. Further, at the end he says "the videos are in sync again," now why would they be in sync again? They sped something up and then slowed something down later to make up time so nobody would notice? Is that how sinister and competent Infowars is? Or is this just a different quality video. I mean the whole thing is in the place of like 2 seconds at most so we'd be talking about millisecond differences. Because if true it'd have to be quite obviously doctored for you to blame the WH for intentionally tweeting a fake video rather than just the version they saw that zoomed in on the incident specifically. Which, speaking of, this seems like a distraction from what we can all see clearly in the agreed-upon C-span version. I agree the side-by-side embedded in that tweet is shitty. I had already looked at footage by Googling "doctored acosta footage." Here you go. | ||
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