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TheTenthDoc
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farvacola
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On September 25 2018 04:07 farvacola wrote: From what I've gathered reading different hot takes, there's a good chance this was a deliberate effort by the White House to try and take attention away from Kavanaugh. Well given there's been a huge walkout today in the name of #believesurvivors, I'd say that tactic failed like a lead boat. | ||
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Plansix
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NewSunshine
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Mohdoo
United States15687 Posts
On September 25 2018 04:05 TheTenthDoc wrote: I wonder how much of this was a consequence of taking one person's word and then confirming it with corollary information that doesn't quite say the same thing (e.g. Trump associate says Rosenstein will resign -> Rosenstein associates say he expected to be fired/pressured to resign -> treating the second source as "confirming" the first) and how much is confirming with multiple sources that are all deceiving the media, either out of ignorance or out of some idea they can force him out. I think someone in the WH is intentionally giving false information to the press at this point. They are trying to muddy the water by tricking publications into thinking something is truly gonna happen. I forgot what the other similar event was, but I remember this happening recently. Misleading leaks seem to be a new weapon for the WH. | ||
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farvacola
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NewSunshine
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Mohdoo
United States15687 Posts
On September 25 2018 04:50 NewSunshine wrote: The Rosenstein story is 100% a smokescreen for the buildup of smoke surrounding the dumpster-fire that is Kavanaugh. This is the first time I'm going to knock "the MSM" as an entity, they were only too eager to take the story and run with it, when it never passed the smell test to begin with. All the WH needed to do was show that a meeting was taking place, have "someone who would definitely know IF it was going to happen" say it was a firing, then suddenly it is a story too big to ignore. The media had like 10 seconds to decide if they run it or not before they are late to the party. The media as a whole showed a lot of weakness through this ordeal. But it is important to keep in mind this wouldn't have happened without someone trying to deceive the press. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On September 25 2018 04:48 farvacola wrote: Just saw a blurb on a fourth Kavanaugh accuser that has reported straight to Maryland authorities, big if tru. The more accusers there are the more I'm seeing his supporters and Republican senators dig in. Against all reason I think his odds of getting nominated have gone up since the post Ford accusers came out. Embarrassing. | ||
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farvacola
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 25 2018 05:17 farvacola wrote: I disagree, I think they're continuing to turn the screws on middles like Collins and Murkowski, but only time will tell. Even folks like Jeff Flake won’t vote if to many of these pile up. The leadership will cry about it how unfair it all is and then try to slam through a nominee during the lame duck session like a bushel of ripe assholes. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On September 25 2018 05:17 farvacola wrote: I disagree, I think they're continuing to turn the screws on middles like Collins and Murkowski, but only time will tell. Let me clarify... the more accusers there are the more likely the average Republican will vote for Kavanaugh because they see it as political and too convenient. What you noted is our ONLY hope. The silver lining is how this gives the red state Dems cover to vote against Kavanaugh, meaning we should only need 2 defectors from the ladies and Flake to stop this. Their offices are being flooded by protesters as we speak asking them to "Be a hero" and vote no. We can only hope their conscious gets to them since a vote without an investigation is a joke. Having said that, the Thursday hearing could easily go horrible for Ford. She's going to be crossed thoroughly and if there is a single gap in memory then they will beat that issue to death. Further, Kavanaugh will no doubt do great given his background and the intense prepping he is doing with McGahn and co. Kavanaugh's confidence coupled with the inherent messiness of such an old memory means there is a high likelihood the Republicans get enough cover to justify to themselves and their voters a vote for Kavanaugh. This ofc, could change based on what the other ladies say and how hard the Dems go after Kavanaugh in the hearing. Edit: So apparently a Fox interview with Kavanaugh and his wife is airing tonight. I'm sure it will be hard hitting and unbiased. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15687 Posts
On September 25 2018 05:27 On_Slaught wrote: Edit: So apparently a Fox interview with Kavanaugh and his wife is airing tonight. I'm sure it will be hard hitting and unbiased. "Let's start off by addressing the elephant in the room: How did you come to be someone so respecting of women? Do you think your long history of respecting women is the reason leftists are fabricating socialist lies?" | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On September 25 2018 05:53 Mohdoo wrote: "Let's start off by addressing the elephant in the room: How did you come to be someone so respecting of women? Do you think your long history of respecting women is the reason leftists are fabricating socialist lies?" It will probably be about how these accusations are affecting their family and how awful and unfair it is that someone would try to break up their family. You will get the happy (white) nuclear family, with the loving wife and the sweet daughters talk about their plight of surviving this ordeal. They will be presented as the real victims. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On September 25 2018 05:53 Mohdoo wrote: "Let's start off by addressing the elephant in the room: How did you come to be someone so respecting of women? Do you think your long history of respecting women is the reason leftists are fabricating socialist lies?" It's not even live apparently. They already recorded it so we will be seeing the edited version approved by Shine/McGahn. | ||
Womwomwom
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Like I keep saying, the conservative Supreme Court would so damn easy if they had picked someone else and/or Kav did them a solid and bailed out. Trump is probably betting correctly that Republican supporters want the conservative Supreme Court so much that they probably don’t care who gets on the bench so long as he’s “conservative” enough. Life really doesn’t have to be this hard. | ||
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Plansix
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21671 Posts
On September 25 2018 05:03 Mohdoo wrote: The problem with 24/7 news. Its 'now now now' and not taking 20 minutes to verify what your actually broadcasting. Its utter garbage.All the WH needed to do was show that a meeting was taking place, have "someone who would definitely know IF it was going to happen" say it was a firing, then suddenly it is a story too big to ignore. The media had like 10 seconds to decide if they run it or not before they are late to the party. The media as a whole showed a lot of weakness through this ordeal. But it is important to keep in mind this wouldn't have happened without someone trying to deceive the press. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On September 25 2018 06:20 Womwomwom wrote: You should switch the statement before the link before the other mods get you. | ||
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