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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5091 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-11-09 06:45:02
1 hour ago
#121421
On November 09 2026 15:32 EnDeR_ wrote:
Wait, Intro, if Alaska has ranked voting, what exactly is the problem? Please, could you math it for me?


It's ballot exhaustion for one thing. Last I saw something like 40% (might be more don't quote me) of people who picked the fake Dan Sullivan didn't pick anyone else. They thought they were voting for the current senator. I mean I don't think this is hard to understand. The Peltola campaign, who know the rules on AK obviously, recruited someone with the same name to appear on the ballot to help them win a close race. In a red state, every first choice not for the real Dan Sullivan is a help to the Dem. It matters in what they anticipated to be a close race and it is exactly what is happening (they are still tabulating because like in NYC apparently it takes forever to do this). Can I just make an appeal to common sense here? As the NYT and other outlets reported, this was very intentional. You csn say theoretically it should mske no difference but judging by the actions of all involved here, they know it actually *does* matter. Getting someone with an almost identical name to appear on a ballot is a new low for a senate race.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18489 Posts
1 hour ago
#121422
On November 09 2026 15:43 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2026 15:32 EnDeR_ wrote:
Wait, Intro, if Alaska has ranked voting, what exactly is the problem? Please, could you math it for me?


It's ballot exhaustion for one thing. Last I saw something like 40% (might be more don't quote me) of people who picked the fake Dan Sullivan didn't pick anyone else. They thought they were voting for the current senator. I mean I don't think this is hard to understand. The Peltola campaign, who know the rules on AK obviously, recruited someone with the same name to appear on the ballot to help them win a close race. In a red state, every first choice not for the real Dan Sullivan is a help to the Dem. It matters in what they anticipated to be a close race and it is exactly what is happening (they are still tabulating because like in NYC apparently it takes forever to do this). Can I just make an appeal to common sense here? As the NYT and other outlets reported, this was very intentional. You csn say theoretically it should mske no difference but judging by the actions of all involved here, they know it actually *does* matter. Getting someone with an almost identical name to appear on a ballot is a new low for a senate race.

Did this 40% whose second vote was blank think they were voting for the incumbent? Or did they think they were voting for an independent Dan Sullivan because they were fed up with both major parties and thought this guy was funny?

Because if you want to vote for the incumbent, you'd think they vote for the one that says Incumbent next to their name. And if you do just vote by name and pick "Dan Sullivan" wouldn't you be confused by the presence of 2 Dan Sullivan's, and just in case, add the OTHER Dan Sullivan as 2nd choice?

I mean, at the end of the day, shouldn't you give this guy the benefit of the doubt and assume he actually wanted to run for Senator? Even if the only reason he wanted to run is because he thought it was funny to run because they share a name. What I read is that he is running because Dan Sullivan (Incumbent) is giving the Dan Sullivans of the world a bad name. What makes it okay to ban him from the ballot?

And yes, if Democrats set this up, it's underhanded ratfuckery on the same level as gerrymandering nonsense counties into existence to win more. But even if they did, I don't see why Dan Sullivan (alternative) shouldn't be allowed to run for Senator...
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8775 Posts
54 minutes ago
#121423
On November 09 2026 11:44 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2026 11:30 Introvert wrote:
btw the Alaska thing really is dirty and ought to be condemned. setting up a cutout candidate to siphon votes ought to diminish her reputation and influence in the state and in the senate. for someone who ran as these cheesy "above partisan politics" types it's pretty low. her party ought to be very loud about this esp since their majority will be large enough. but they won't.


Alaska has ranked choice voting and this is what the ballot looks like:

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I want you to walk me through how a literate person would accidentally vote for the wrong person here


yeah sorry. it all sounds very sinister and it certainly is a bit of on dirty side - but then you see the ballot and like how is that unclear for anyone being able to read? it's not like you need to hurry so much you cannot read it through at the ballot box. if things are unclear there are people there clarifying things for you.

some people seem especially sour as their team's unprecedented gerrymander and redistricting efforts backfired spectacularly. as did disenfranchasing minorities by further killing the Voting Rights Act. kicking people off of voter rolls... it just activated more people.


also it has not even been one week and people are already giving the most undeserving man the benefit of doubt. as if upholding his duty and acting responsibly is what Trump is known for. and the last 10+ years including Jan.06 has not happened. getting Miller as Chief of Staff is not a troubling prospect for anyone else?

have ICE operations gone that smoothly?
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5909 Posts
47 minutes ago
#121424
They're implying that the Republican voters are on the stupider side, which is... fair.
EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2958 Posts
8 minutes ago
#121425
On November 09 2026 15:43 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2026 15:32 EnDeR_ wrote:
Wait, Intro, if Alaska has ranked voting, what exactly is the problem? Please, could you math it for me?


It's ballot exhaustion for one thing. Last I saw something like 40% (might be more don't quote me) of people who picked the fake Dan Sullivan didn't pick anyone else. They thought they were voting for the current senator. I mean I don't think this is hard to understand. The Peltola campaign, who know the rules on AK obviously, recruited someone with the same name to appear on the ballot to help them win a close race. In a red state, every first choice not for the real Dan Sullivan is a help to the Dem. It matters in what they anticipated to be a close race and it is exactly what is happening (they are still tabulating because like in NYC apparently it takes forever to do this). Can I just make an appeal to common sense here? As the NYT and other outlets reported, this was very intentional. You csn say theoretically it should mske no difference but judging by the actions of all involved here, they know it actually *does* matter. Getting someone with an almost identical name to appear on a ballot is a new low for a senate race.


Let's accept that 40% of the people that voted for independent Dan Sullivan and didn't fill in a second choice are just extremely confused republican voters.

Math it for me. Did this swing the election? How many voted for this individual and no one else?
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8775 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-11-09 08:24:52
3 minutes ago
#121426
come to think of it way weirder is the ranking on that ballot. usually it is incumbent at the top, then the challenger(or second biggest party) and then the rest.
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