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On June 19 2026 04:40 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 04:28 LightSpectra wrote:
What does "conservatism" even mean without any qualifiers. I can tell you what liberal-conservatism, social-conservatism, nationalist-conservatism etc. are, but the only thing they all have in common is support for hierarchies maintained by the government. In that respect Benito Mussolini is just as conservative as Joseph de Maistre, just manifested in different ways for their times. I'd say that the core tenet of conservatism is the idea that stuff is ultimately pretty good the way it currently is, and thus change should always be undertaken only with utmost care, because it risks ruining a good thing. Kind of a "measure twice, if in doubt don't cut at all" attitude.
Eh, not really sure about that. That sounds like how we use the term "moderate", someone who only wants to make modest changes to the status quo. Reagan, Thatcher, etc. are considered extremely conservative despite their economic policies being vastly disruptive for the times they lived in.
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On June 19 2026 04:54 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 04:40 Simberto wrote:On June 19 2026 04:28 LightSpectra wrote:
What does "conservatism" even mean without any qualifiers. I can tell you what liberal-conservatism, social-conservatism, nationalist-conservatism etc. are, but the only thing they all have in common is support for hierarchies maintained by the government. In that respect Benito Mussolini is just as conservative as Joseph de Maistre, just manifested in different ways for their times. I'd say that the core tenet of conservatism is the idea that stuff is ultimately pretty good the way it currently is, and thus change should always be undertaken only with utmost care, because it risks ruining a good thing. Kind of a "measure twice, if in doubt don't cut at all" attitude. Eh, not really sure about that. That sounds like how we use the term "moderate", someone who only wants to make modest changes to the status quo. Reagan, Thatcher, etc. are considered extremely conservative despite their economic policies being vastly disruptive for the times they lived in.
That is because conservatives are really bad at being conservative. Somehow neoliberals have rebranded being pro rich capitalists as "conservative".
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On June 19 2026 04:40 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 04:28 LightSpectra wrote:
What does "conservatism" even mean without any qualifiers. I can tell you what liberal-conservatism, social-conservatism, nationalist-conservatism etc. are, but the only thing they all have in common is support for hierarchies maintained by the government. In that respect Benito Mussolini is just as conservative as Joseph de Maistre, just manifested in different ways for their times. I'd say that the core tenet of conservatism is the idea that stuff is ultimately pretty good the way it currently is, and thus change should always be undertaken only with utmost care, because it risks ruining a good thing. Kind of a "measure twice, if in doubt don't cut at all" attitude. Of course, i doubt that that is how most conservatives actually use that word. But a lot of them are actually regressive rather than conservative. Wanting to go back to some golden past is not conserving stuff after all, it is going back.
Well, i don’t think political philosophers would agree with that definition. Conservatism aims at conserving power structures, not the way things are. Very often it can mean being just as revolutionary or even more so than the left, if that’s what is needed to protect and conserve the « natural » hierarchies and structures.
The most famous sentence of conservative thought is Lampedusa’s famous “If we want things to stay as they are, things will have to change”.
In that respect, someone like Steve Bannon is absolutely a conservative. His thought really is that if you want to keep men above women, rich above poor, white folks above black folks, bosses above employees and so on, you need to be a revolutionary.
This is simplistic in the sense that the structures conservatives want to protect are not necessarily binary structures of domination (think the traditional family). Thought realistically, they often ultimately are if you look close enough.
The Leopard, from which the quote from Lampedusa comes is an exquisitely beautiful book, and a fundational textbook on conservative thought. I recommend it so, so much.
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On June 17 2026 21:53 Velr wrote:
Why do you even engage with him [oBlade]?
Like the last dozen or so times this has been asked, they can't control themselves.
At this point it's also pretty evident they're functionally incapable of much else.
EDIT: Trump is bad and should be held accountable for his crimes.
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United States44093 Posts
On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:On June 19 2026 00:04 WombaT wrote:
For someone who apparently isn’t a conservative Oblade sure as fuck carries a hell of a lot of water for the cause. Maybe if Adam Sandler decides to make the Waterboy 2 he might be best off not casting himself in this one.
I mean I find the folks who have shrines of Trump as Jesus deeply confusing individuals, but I do understand why they’ll go to bat.
Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing.
It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing.
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On June 19 2026 07:22 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:On June 19 2026 00:04 WombaT wrote:
For someone who apparently isn’t a conservative Oblade sure as fuck carries a hell of a lot of water for the cause. Maybe if Adam Sandler decides to make the Waterboy 2 he might be best off not casting himself in this one.
I mean I find the folks who have shrines of Trump as Jesus deeply confusing individuals, but I do understand why they’ll go to bat.
Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing. It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing.
The saturated system gravitates towards murder or war as a pillar of the state in times of internal turmoil.
Historically at least.
In France it was the nobility, in Germany the minorities.
Is oBlade advocating for the industrialized extermination of a minority ?
Iran‘s got a better reason to enrich uranium now, anyways.
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On June 19 2026 08:07 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 07:22 KwarK wrote:On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:On June 19 2026 00:04 WombaT wrote:
For someone who apparently isn’t a conservative Oblade sure as fuck carries a hell of a lot of water for the cause. Maybe if Adam Sandler decides to make the Waterboy 2 he might be best off not casting himself in this one.
I mean I find the folks who have shrines of Trump as Jesus deeply confusing individuals, but I do understand why they’ll go to bat.
Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing. It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing. The saturated system gravitates towards murder or war as a pillar of the state in times of internal turmoil. Historically at least. In France it was the nobility, in Germany the minorities.
And in US right now its the conservatives.
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doubleupgradeobbies!
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On June 18 2026 23:43 KwarK wrote:
Iran was already close to collapsing if the US did nothing. There was no water, huge protests in the cities, hyperinflation, unemployment, and an out of touch regime insisting that this was all shit the population had to endure because they were in an existential war with a country halfway across the world.
If Trump did nothing Iran likely collapses within the year. They spent all their money on missiles and drones that are useless in peacetime.
He actually saved them. It’s nuts.
It is a shame there's no way we could have seen this coming.
Ah, if only there was some bizarre arcane ritual of... looking into the history of doing similar things in a similar part of the world geography... then seeing a pattern... or something?
On March 03 2026 00:41 Billyboy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2026 14:50 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:On March 02 2026 06:42 Manit0u wrote:On March 02 2026 06:29 ZeroByte13 wrote:On March 02 2026 05:52 Gorsameth wrote:
Sorry but Trump and Netanyahu don't give a fuck about the people. The problem here is that nobody does.  At least enough for it to actually matter. Government of Iran killed ~30k of their own people in a month or so - which is probably more than USA's and Israel's strikes will have killed in total when it ends (talking about civilians). Iranians (in Iran) are fooked just like Palestinians are. Iranians were screwed ever since CIA removed their last democratically elected leader (who was pro-west BTW) to put a dictator in place, which they did on behalf of British Petroleum who got greedy and didn't want to take a fair deal Iran was offering them. This. I don't think people realize how galvanizing these strikes are going to be for the existing regime. The west might not remember, or care, about the history of their interference in Iran, but the Iranians do. Even the current regime is in some sense, the consequences of the actions of the US. After Operation Ajax, the Pahlavi regime was deeply unpopular (and had been since before the 1952 Iranian uprising), and the Iranians certainly knew it he was put there by CIA action. Another popular uprising was inevitable, as Pahlavi was never popular enough to take back the throne without the US literally putting him on it. The Islamists was just one of MANY factions(which included basically everyone) that wanted to topple the Pahlavi regime, which was widely seen as (and frankly was) illegitimate. They just happened to be the first and best positioned to turn on all their allies and purge them after the revolution. So as much as people hate the current regime and the IRGC, they very much know how much they have been fucked around with by the US, and even consider the regime at least partially the fault of the US. The West (mostly the UK and the US) might not accept this reasoning for their blame in this, but I assure you the Iranians definitely lay the blame at their feet. I'm sure the current regime has been running the narrative of constant US interference so the Iranians never forgot. So between the existing theocracy and the US, the Iranians, even those already opposed to the regime are definitely going to hate the US more. They think you are responsible for their current situation to begin with. You toppled the much more popular and much more stable (and democratic) government to begin with, and this regime was the result. The current regime was just the botched result of 'fixing' the problem of the US putting Mohammad Reza Pahlavi back in charge. If they ever had any intention of helping overthrow the existing regime, this is not the way to do it. Further US interference in Iranian politics was always just going to make the US their common enemy again. It appears much more likely for this to galvanize the Arab world against the Iranians than what you are speaking of. This is not a popular government, the people are not mad about them being bombed.
At least Billyboy has the good grace of looking at the situation from the present, and then seeing how that the US theory of 'showing solidarity with a people by bombing them' may not result in the intended effect.
If only the US political body as a whole were equally capable of such learning.
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On June 19 2026 08:24 Razyda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 08:07 Vivax wrote:On June 19 2026 07:22 KwarK wrote:On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:On June 19 2026 00:04 WombaT wrote:
For someone who apparently isn’t a conservative Oblade sure as fuck carries a hell of a lot of water for the cause. Maybe if Adam Sandler decides to make the Waterboy 2 he might be best off not casting himself in this one.
I mean I find the folks who have shrines of Trump as Jesus deeply confusing individuals, but I do understand why they’ll go to bat.
Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing. It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing. The saturated system gravitates towards murder or war as a pillar of the state in times of internal turmoil. Historically at least. In France it was the nobility, in Germany the minorities. And in US right now its the conservatives.
That's true, remember that time someone was thrown in jail for a month for posting a meme about an assassinated leftist? Remember that time comedians were canceled for praising your president? Remember when your president disappeared a study that totally didn't say conservatives were responsible for more political violence than every other ideology combined? Remember when leftists stormed Congress after losing an election and all got pardoned for it?
Conservatives are born on third base and think it's unfair they don't get a free walk to home.
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On June 19 2026 08:34 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 08:24 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:07 Vivax wrote:On June 19 2026 07:22 KwarK wrote:On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:On June 19 2026 00:04 WombaT wrote:
For someone who apparently isn’t a conservative Oblade sure as fuck carries a hell of a lot of water for the cause. Maybe if Adam Sandler decides to make the Waterboy 2 he might be best off not casting himself in this one.
I mean I find the folks who have shrines of Trump as Jesus deeply confusing individuals, but I do understand why they’ll go to bat.
Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing. It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing. The saturated system gravitates towards murder or war as a pillar of the state in times of internal turmoil. Historically at least. In France it was the nobility, in Germany the minorities. And in US right now its the conservatives. That's true, remember that time someone was thrown in jail for a month for posting a meme about an assassinated leftist? Remember that time comedians were canceled for praising your president? Remember when your president disappeared a study that totally didn't say conservatives were responsible for more political violence than every other ideology combined? Remember when leftists stormed Congress after losing an election and all got pardoned for it?
I am in good mood so I'll entertain myself with telling you some truth you will probably neither understand, or accept. You dont call people nazis, fascists, or paedos if you think they deserve to live. It is as simple, as that.
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On June 19 2026 08:41 Razyda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 08:34 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 08:24 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:07 Vivax wrote:On June 19 2026 07:22 KwarK wrote:On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:On June 19 2026 00:04 WombaT wrote:
For someone who apparently isn’t a conservative Oblade sure as fuck carries a hell of a lot of water for the cause. Maybe if Adam Sandler decides to make the Waterboy 2 he might be best off not casting himself in this one.
I mean I find the folks who have shrines of Trump as Jesus deeply confusing individuals, but I do understand why they’ll go to bat.
Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing. It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing. The saturated system gravitates towards murder or war as a pillar of the state in times of internal turmoil. Historically at least. In France it was the nobility, in Germany the minorities. And in US right now its the conservatives. That's true, remember that time someone was thrown in jail for a month for posting a meme about an assassinated leftist? Remember that time comedians were canceled for praising your president? Remember when your president disappeared a study that totally didn't say conservatives were responsible for more political violence than every other ideology combined? Remember when leftists stormed Congress after losing an election and all got pardoned for it? I am in good mood so I'll entertain myself with telling you some truth you will probably neither understand, or accept. You dont call people nazis, fascists, or paedos if you think they deserve to live. It is as simple, as that.
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United States44093 Posts
If they don’t like being called fascists have they considered another ideology? It feels like missing the point somewhat to put the responsibility on us to not say what they are. Like imagine if there was a bully terrorizing your child at school and so you complained to the headmaster only for them to say that we prefer not to use the word bully to describe people because it makes them feel like they might not be nice.
This is very much a “you have to meet us halfway” situation. Like if they want to stop being called pedos they really need to stop fucking kids.
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On June 19 2026 08:41 Razyda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 08:34 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 08:24 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:07 Vivax wrote:On June 19 2026 07:22 KwarK wrote:On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:On June 19 2026 00:04 WombaT wrote:
For someone who apparently isn’t a conservative Oblade sure as fuck carries a hell of a lot of water for the cause. Maybe if Adam Sandler decides to make the Waterboy 2 he might be best off not casting himself in this one.
I mean I find the folks who have shrines of Trump as Jesus deeply confusing individuals, but I do understand why they’ll go to bat.
Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing. It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing. The saturated system gravitates towards murder or war as a pillar of the state in times of internal turmoil. Historically at least. In France it was the nobility, in Germany the minorities. And in US right now its the conservatives. That's true, remember that time someone was thrown in jail for a month for posting a meme about an assassinated leftist? Remember that time comedians were canceled for praising your president? Remember when your president disappeared a study that totally didn't say conservatives were responsible for more political violence than every other ideology combined? Remember when leftists stormed Congress after losing an election and all got pardoned for it? I am in good mood so I'll entertain myself with telling you some truth you will probably neither understand, or accept. You dont call people nazis, fascists, or paedos if you think they deserve to live. It is as simple, as that.
You kinda have all of those on sites like chans where the majority allegedly posts from .gov adresses.
Right wing radical might be less charged as a definition in times with no national socialist party, by personal experience I know some pose as nazis for edgelordism, but aren‘t really a threat as long as they aren‘t part of an entire gang of them.
That goes similarly for pedophiles, when they don‘t participate in creating rings like Epsteins. A lot are probably just weebs, but there‘s also less scrupolous ones in organizations and the like.
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Northern Ireland27011 Posts
On June 19 2026 08:41 Razyda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 08:34 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 08:24 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:07 Vivax wrote:On June 19 2026 07:22 KwarK wrote:On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:On June 19 2026 00:04 WombaT wrote:
For someone who apparently isn’t a conservative Oblade sure as fuck carries a hell of a lot of water for the cause. Maybe if Adam Sandler decides to make the Waterboy 2 he might be best off not casting himself in this one.
I mean I find the folks who have shrines of Trump as Jesus deeply confusing individuals, but I do understand why they’ll go to bat.
Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing. It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing. The saturated system gravitates towards murder or war as a pillar of the state in times of internal turmoil. Historically at least. In France it was the nobility, in Germany the minorities. And in US right now its the conservatives. That's true, remember that time someone was thrown in jail for a month for posting a meme about an assassinated leftist? Remember that time comedians were canceled for praising your president? Remember when your president disappeared a study that totally didn't say conservatives were responsible for more political violence than every other ideology combined? Remember when leftists stormed Congress after losing an election and all got pardoned for it? I am in good mood so I'll entertain myself with telling you some truth you will probably neither understand, or accept. You dont call people nazis, fascists, or paedos if you think they deserve to live. It is as simple, as that.
I mean is it that simple really? I imagine many think that the current far right swing = misguided people rather than irredeemable ones primarily
I mean at some point one has to call a spade a spade
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On June 19 2026 08:41 Razyda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 08:34 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 08:24 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:07 Vivax wrote:On June 19 2026 07:22 KwarK wrote:On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:On June 19 2026 00:04 WombaT wrote:
For someone who apparently isn’t a conservative Oblade sure as fuck carries a hell of a lot of water for the cause. Maybe if Adam Sandler decides to make the Waterboy 2 he might be best off not casting himself in this one.
I mean I find the folks who have shrines of Trump as Jesus deeply confusing individuals, but I do understand why they’ll go to bat.
Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing. It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing. The saturated system gravitates towards murder or war as a pillar of the state in times of internal turmoil. Historically at least. In France it was the nobility, in Germany the minorities. And in US right now its the conservatives. That's true, remember that time someone was thrown in jail for a month for posting a meme about an assassinated leftist? Remember that time comedians were canceled for praising your president? Remember when your president disappeared a study that totally didn't say conservatives were responsible for more political violence than every other ideology combined? Remember when leftists stormed Congress after losing an election and all got pardoned for it? I am in good mood so I'll entertain myself with telling you some truth you will probably neither understand, or accept. You dont call people nazis, fascists, or paedos if you think they deserve to live. It is as simple, as that.
So which would you prefer: we don't call out Nazis, fascists, and child molesters for being Nazis, fascists, and child molesters, so that they can stay alive; or that all Nazis, fascists, and child molesters need to be called out and murdered?
(And why the dichotomy? Why can't we call them out and ostracize them, but still let them live?)
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On June 19 2026 08:44 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 08:41 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:34 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 08:24 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:07 Vivax wrote:On June 19 2026 07:22 KwarK wrote:On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:On June 19 2026 00:04 WombaT wrote:
For someone who apparently isn’t a conservative Oblade sure as fuck carries a hell of a lot of water for the cause. Maybe if Adam Sandler decides to make the Waterboy 2 he might be best off not casting himself in this one.
I mean I find the folks who have shrines of Trump as Jesus deeply confusing individuals, but I do understand why they’ll go to bat.
Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing. It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing. The saturated system gravitates towards murder or war as a pillar of the state in times of internal turmoil. Historically at least. In France it was the nobility, in Germany the minorities. And in US right now its the conservatives. That's true, remember that time someone was thrown in jail for a month for posting a meme about an assassinated leftist? Remember that time comedians were canceled for praising your president? Remember when your president disappeared a study that totally didn't say conservatives were responsible for more political violence than every other ideology combined? Remember when leftists stormed Congress after losing an election and all got pardoned for it? I am in good mood so I'll entertain myself with telling you some truth you will probably neither understand, or accept. You dont call people nazis, fascists, or paedos if you think they deserve to live. It is as simple, as that.
Now do this thread...
On June 19 2026 08:52 KwarK wrote:
If they don’t like being called fascists have they considered another ideology? It feels like missing the point somewhat to put the responsibility on us to not say what they are. Like imagine if there was a bully terrorizing your child at school and so you complained to the headmaster only for them to say that we prefer not to use the word bully to describe people because it makes them feel like they might not be nice.
This is very much a “you have to meet us halfway” situation. Like if they want to stop being called pedos they really need to stop fucking kids.
It is kinda funny because I was about to reply to you, then something got better of you and you added to your post, in rather detrimental way.
" Like imagine if there was a bully terrorizing your child at school and so you complained to the headmaster only for them to say that we prefer not to use the word bully to describe people because it makes them feel like they might not be nice."
Like really???? The conservatives are the ones who tell you which words you cant use, because it makes them feel like they might not be nice.
"This is very much a “you have to meet us halfway” situation. Like if they want to stop being called pedos they really need to stop fucking kids."
Like you kinda prove my point here? You seem to be genuinely believing that almost half a country is raping kids? (I mean the way you see it, it is probably deplorable part of the country, but still...). Thats also notwithstanding the fact that LightSpectra keeps fantasising about "child rapists" rather openly on this very forum.
Now to decent part of your post:
"If they don’t like being called fascists have they considered another ideology? It feels like missing the point somewhat to put the responsibility on us to not say what they are."
Most of this claim I think comes from idea that patriotism, is the same as nationalism. Quite frankly I think you have been conditioned to believe that. Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me like you are British currently living in US (dunno whether you have dual citizenship, or just one). Thing is, neither of the countries I see you associated with, never really faced a threat, which could erase its existence (well UK theoretically during WW2), so it is easy for you t take it for granted. This however expose you to believe, that every form of patriotism is nationalism.
Some more as they appeared:
On June 19 2026 09:20 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 08:41 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:34 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 08:24 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:07 Vivax wrote:On June 19 2026 07:22 KwarK wrote:On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:On June 19 2026 00:04 WombaT wrote:
For someone who apparently isn’t a conservative Oblade sure as fuck carries a hell of a lot of water for the cause. Maybe if Adam Sandler decides to make the Waterboy 2 he might be best off not casting himself in this one.
I mean I find the folks who have shrines of Trump as Jesus deeply confusing individuals, but I do understand why they’ll go to bat.
Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing. It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing. The saturated system gravitates towards murder or war as a pillar of the state in times of internal turmoil. Historically at least. In France it was the nobility, in Germany the minorities. And in US right now its the conservatives. That's true, remember that time someone was thrown in jail for a month for posting a meme about an assassinated leftist? Remember that time comedians were canceled for praising your president? Remember when your president disappeared a study that totally didn't say conservatives were responsible for more political violence than every other ideology combined? Remember when leftists stormed Congress after losing an election and all got pardoned for it? I am in good mood so I'll entertain myself with telling you some truth you will probably neither understand, or accept. You dont call people nazis, fascists, or paedos if you think they deserve to live. It is as simple, as that. I mean is it that simple really? I imagine many think that the current far right swing = misguided people rather than irredeemable ones primarily I mean at some point one has to call a spade a spade
Proving my point???
On June 19 2026 09:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 08:41 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:34 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 08:24 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:07 Vivax wrote:On June 19 2026 07:22 KwarK wrote:On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:On June 19 2026 00:04 WombaT wrote:
For someone who apparently isn’t a conservative Oblade sure as fuck carries a hell of a lot of water for the cause. Maybe if Adam Sandler decides to make the Waterboy 2 he might be best off not casting himself in this one.
I mean I find the folks who have shrines of Trump as Jesus deeply confusing individuals, but I do understand why they’ll go to bat.
Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing. It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing. The saturated system gravitates towards murder or war as a pillar of the state in times of internal turmoil. Historically at least. In France it was the nobility, in Germany the minorities. And in US right now its the conservatives. That's true, remember that time someone was thrown in jail for a month for posting a meme about an assassinated leftist? Remember that time comedians were canceled for praising your president? Remember when your president disappeared a study that totally didn't say conservatives were responsible for more political violence than every other ideology combined? Remember when leftists stormed Congress after losing an election and all got pardoned for it? I am in good mood so I'll entertain myself with telling you some truth you will probably neither understand, or accept. You dont call people nazis, fascists, or paedos if you think they deserve to live. It is as simple, as that. (And why the dichotomy? Why can't we call them out and ostracize them, but still let them live?)
Because you are not going to.
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On June 19 2026 09:44 Razyda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 09:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 08:41 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:34 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 08:24 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:07 Vivax wrote:On June 19 2026 07:22 KwarK wrote:On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:
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Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing. It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing. The saturated system gravitates towards murder or war as a pillar of the state in times of internal turmoil. Historically at least. In France it was the nobility, in Germany the minorities. And in US right now its the conservatives. That's true, remember that time someone was thrown in jail for a month for posting a meme about an assassinated leftist? Remember that time comedians were canceled for praising your president? Remember when your president disappeared a study that totally didn't say conservatives were responsible for more political violence than every other ideology combined? Remember when leftists stormed Congress after losing an election and all got pardoned for it? I am in good mood so I'll entertain myself with telling you some truth you will probably neither understand, or accept. You dont call people nazis, fascists, or paedos if you think they deserve to live. It is as simple, as that. (And why the dichotomy? Why can't we call them out and ostracize them, but still let them live?) Because you are not going to.
What do you mean I'm not going to? You created the dichotomy for yourself; don't project it onto others. I'll ask you again:
So which would you prefer: we don't call out Nazis, fascists, and child molesters for being Nazis, fascists, and child molesters, so that they can stay alive; or that all Nazis, fascists, and child molesters need to be called out and murdered?
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Lmao, so in essence your complaint is "conservatives are persecuted because they call other people fascists and pedos and then they get called it back and that's worse"
Could you be a bigger weenie or is the learned helplessness professional?
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On June 19 2026 09:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2026 08:41 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:34 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 08:24 Razyda wrote:On June 19 2026 08:07 Vivax wrote:On June 19 2026 07:22 KwarK wrote:On June 19 2026 02:46 LightSpectra wrote:On June 19 2026 02:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 19 2026 00:08 Billyboy wrote:On June 19 2026 00:04 WombaT wrote:
For someone who apparently isn’t a conservative Oblade sure as fuck carries a hell of a lot of water for the cause. Maybe if Adam Sandler decides to make the Waterboy 2 he might be best off not casting himself in this one.
I mean I find the folks who have shrines of Trump as Jesus deeply confusing individuals, but I do understand why they’ll go to bat.
Republicans are not conservatives anymore Maybe not all Republicans are conservatives and maybe not all conservatives are Republican, but oBlade is definitely both. Given oBlade's passionate defense of kpop salutes and Trump appropriating rhetoric about immigrants from Nazi Germany, you could make a very strong argument they're not conservative but a secret third thing. It wouldn’t be a third. It’d be the fourth thing. The saturated system gravitates towards murder or war as a pillar of the state in times of internal turmoil. Historically at least. In France it was the nobility, in Germany the minorities. And in US right now its the conservatives. That's true, remember that time someone was thrown in jail for a month for posting a meme about an assassinated leftist? Remember that time comedians were canceled for praising your president? Remember when your president disappeared a study that totally didn't say conservatives were responsible for more political violence than every other ideology combined? Remember when leftists stormed Congress after losing an election and all got pardoned for it? I am in good mood so I'll entertain myself with telling you some truth you will probably neither understand, or accept. You dont call people nazis, fascists, or paedos if you think they deserve to live. It is as simple, as that. So which would you prefer: we don't call out Nazis, fascists, and child molesters for being Nazis, fascists, and child molesters, so that they can stay alive; or that all Nazis, fascists, and child molesters need to be called out and murdered? (And why the dichotomy? Why can't we call them out and ostracize them, but still let them live?)
You interfere with police work if they aren‘t convicted. What looks like a criminal to you might be an informant to the police or a provocateur.
Nothing stops you from looking for them on forums designed for them and arguing with them there, technically. It‘s just not very pleasant. Where would they hang out, on average ?
They can‘t even keep up with the stuff that spreads on SM nowadays, maybe that‘s the point.
‚Hello? Is this the nazi group chat? I came here to ostracize you‘.
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