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Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting!

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dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States832 Posts
August 19 2026 15:18 GMT
#118281
Yeah well Chinese nationalism and frankly irredentism isn’t purely or mostly sane geopolitical strategy in the first place.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24436 Posts
August 19 2026 16:00 GMT
#118282
Angie Nixon won the primary for US Senator in Florida. Here she is saying the US should stop sending any money and weapons to Israel:



It's really starting to show how the establishment Democrats' organizing has been hollowed out by overpaid nepotistic consultants, Epstein class sponsored media buys, oblivious sycophants, and desperate lackeys (no actually active members here afaict).

If you sincerely want Democrats to suck less, you don't really have any other choice than to be supporting DSA in whatever capacities you can.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1853 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-19 17:00:10
August 19 2026 16:59 GMT
#118283
Serious question GH, why are you on Twitter, or if you are not, why do you share posts from it?

Do you disagree that it's been bought by Musk in order to manipulate the public discourse and that it's been turned into a right wing safe space with harrowing amount of racism, antisemitism and outright nazi propaganda?

Don't you think that contributing to engagement numbers on it directly contributes to the success story of one of the worse and most malicious forces for pushing right wing ideas and policies all across the western world?

I mean, we often talk about what we do in this tread and online in general and how this helps or harms the causes we believe in, isn't completely cutting off that platform the bare minimum for anyone who actually cares about fighting the things that Twitter has became associated with?

Anyhow, don't know much about Angela Nixon, my only exposure to this race was a video I saw of an activist repeatedly asking Vindman why he supports the genocide in Gaza and while I'm not a fan of this kind of activism, his answers were pretty shitty so despite me kind of finding him cool because of what he did during the first Trump impeachment and his guest star appearance on Curb I was kind of rooting against him, simply put, he seemed like a militaristic true believer in American empire, not my cup of tea.

There are many non-DSA Democratic party members who don't suck, and you playing along with the right and crypto centrist push for "DSA = All of Democrats or at least it should be and also yey communism" is unsurprising.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States832 Posts
August 19 2026 17:23 GMT
#118284
On August 20 2026 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Angie Nixon won the primary for US Senator in Florida. Here she is saying the US should stop sending any money and weapons to Israel:

https://twitter.com/ClippingWings/status/2090041715075752075

It's really starting to show how the establishment Democrats' organizing has been hollowed out by overpaid nepotistic consultants, Epstein class sponsored media buys, oblivious sycophants, and desperate lackeys (no actually active members here afaict).

If you sincerely want Democrats to suck less, you don't really have any other choice than to be supporting DSA in whatever capacities you can.
Her opponent Vindman sucked. And he had a lot of money to defeat her, so he can’t blame that. For disliking both finalists in the race, it’s up there with El-Sayed for me.

I would assume this is the first official-official DSA primary win for a statewide vote.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24436 Posts
August 19 2026 17:48 GMT
#118285
On August 20 2026 01:59 Jankisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2026 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Angie Nixon won the primary for US Senator in Florida. Here she is saying the US should stop sending any money and weapons to Israel:

https://twitter.com/ClippingWings/status/2090041715075752075

It's really starting to show how the establishment Democrats' organizing has been hollowed out by overpaid nepotistic consultants, Epstein class sponsored media buys, oblivious sycophants, and desperate lackeys (no actually active members here afaict).

If you sincerely want Democrats to suck less, you don't really have any other choice than to be supporting DSA in whatever capacities you can.


Serious question GH, why are you on Twitter, or if you are not, why do you share posts from it?

+ Show Spoiler +
Do you disagree that it's been bought by Musk in order to manipulate the public discourse and that it's been turned into a right wing safe space with harrowing amount of racism, antisemitism and outright nazi propaganda?

Don't you think that contributing to engagement numbers on it directly contributes to the success story of one of the worse and most malicious forces for pushing right wing ideas and policies all across the western world?


I mean, we often talk about what we do in this tread and online in general and how this helps or harms the causes we believe in, isn't completely cutting off that platform the bare minimum for anyone who actually cares about fighting the things that Twitter has became associated with?

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyhow, don't know much about Angela Nixon, my only exposure to this race was a video I saw of an activist repeatedly asking Vindman why he supports the genocide in Gaza and while I'm not a fan of this kind of activism, his answers were pretty shitty so despite me kind of finding him cool because of what he did during the first Trump impeachment and his guest star appearance on Curb I was kind of rooting against him, simply put, he seemed like a militaristic true believer in American empire, not my cup of tea.

There are many non-DSA Democratic party members who don't suck, and you playing along with the right and crypto centrist push for "DSA = All of Democrats or at least it should be and also yey communism" is unsurprising.

Content and formatting (like embedded video).

No. Besides there not really being an ethical alternative, we're also using electronics with rare earths mined by hands of child slaves to access this site and any other alternative.

As far as individual action goes, getting politically organized supersedes one's personal consumption habits. Getting organized is literally the bare minimum to maintain a democratic society (of pretty much any meaningful formation).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1853 Posts
August 19 2026 18:27 GMT
#118286
OK, so convenience > materially supporting fascists, got it.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24436 Posts
August 19 2026 18:35 GMT
#118287
On August 20 2026 03:27 Jankisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2026 02:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 20 2026 01:59 Jankisa wrote:
On August 20 2026 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Angie Nixon won the primary for US Senator in Florida. Here she is saying the US should stop sending any money and weapons to Israel:

https://twitter.com/ClippingWings/status/2090041715075752075

It's really starting to show how the establishment Democrats' organizing has been hollowed out by overpaid nepotistic consultants, Epstein class sponsored media buys, oblivious sycophants, and desperate lackeys (no actually active members here afaict).

If you sincerely want Democrats to suck less, you don't really have any other choice than to be supporting DSA in whatever capacities you can.


Serious question GH, why are you on Twitter, or if you are not, why do you share posts from it?

+ Show Spoiler +
Do you disagree that it's been bought by Musk in order to manipulate the public discourse and that it's been turned into a right wing safe space with harrowing amount of racism, antisemitism and outright nazi propaganda?

Don't you think that contributing to engagement numbers on it directly contributes to the success story of one of the worse and most malicious forces for pushing right wing ideas and policies all across the western world?


I mean, we often talk about what we do in this tread and online in general and how this helps or harms the causes we believe in, isn't completely cutting off that platform the bare minimum for anyone who actually cares about fighting the things that Twitter has became associated with?

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyhow, don't know much about Angela Nixon, my only exposure to this race was a video I saw of an activist repeatedly asking Vindman why he supports the genocide in Gaza and while I'm not a fan of this kind of activism, his answers were pretty shitty so despite me kind of finding him cool because of what he did during the first Trump impeachment and his guest star appearance on Curb I was kind of rooting against him, simply put, he seemed like a militaristic true believer in American empire, not my cup of tea.

There are many non-DSA Democratic party members who don't suck, and you playing along with the right and crypto centrist push for "DSA = All of Democrats or at least it should be and also yey communism" is unsurprising.

Content and formatting (like embedded video).

No. Besides there not really being an ethical alternative, we're also using electronics with rare earths mined by hands of child slaves to access this site and any other alternative.

As far as individual action goes, getting politically organized supersedes one's personal consumption habits. Getting organized is literally the bare minimum to maintain a democratic society (of pretty much any meaningful formation).


OK, so convenience > materially supporting fascists, got it.

Perhaps, but then you'd be agreeing with me and materially supporting child slavery to say it to me.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2622 Posts
August 19 2026 18:51 GMT
#118288
His point is you do more of all the stuff you claim is bad but for some reason give yourself a pass on. This is just one of the clearest examples and so on point, very well played.

For the record I don’t use twitter, or insta, or Snapchat, or tik tok. So I guess I’m the one true revolutionary socialist. The rest of you need to stop supporting genocide, get off the hamster wheel and stop all the mocking and gawking. Feel free to ask me anything and I’ll explain why it’s because the Dems are bad and offer no solutions.
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1202 Posts
August 19 2026 19:10 GMT
#118289
On August 19 2026 16:12 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2026 15:19 KT_Elwood wrote:
Trump and Kegstand are exposing the pacific area to "fix" the unfixable Iran situation in the straight of AMERICA.

Trump admin also imposes new sanctions against the ICC because "they say mean things about israel again"

China should move on and try to Take taiwan and support north korea in taking the south while extending the hand to europe by cutting ties with putin russia, economicly and ideologic a small price to pay.

With SKorea and Taiwan China hold a large portion on the tech that is pumping the S&P 500 and China offering the world an open weighted alternative that is even beating frontier models they even got the AI-Thing under control.

China should NOT start WW3 in an attempt to corner the AI market.


You need other people to play.
Who you gonna think responds when all allies are just "stealing" and "Lazy" and "waste fraud and abuse"

"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1853 Posts
August 19 2026 19:16 GMT
#118290
Shit, man, I basically abandoned Reddit and re-joined this forum over the shitty API changes over there, nuked my (mostly) inactive Twitter as soon as Musk bought it, deleted my Instagram a long time ago and never even felt a faint glimmer of need to check out what Tiktok is all about.

The only shameful remnant of my social media presence is my dormant Facebook that is basically there just because I used it to log in to a bunch of things I still use (including battle.net) when I was a kid.

So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9251 Posts
August 19 2026 20:28 GMT
#118291
On August 20 2026 02:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2026 01:59 Jankisa wrote:
On August 20 2026 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Angie Nixon won the primary for US Senator in Florida. Here she is saying the US should stop sending any money and weapons to Israel:

https://twitter.com/ClippingWings/status/2090041715075752075

It's really starting to show how the establishment Democrats' organizing has been hollowed out by overpaid nepotistic consultants, Epstein class sponsored media buys, oblivious sycophants, and desperate lackeys (no actually active members here afaict).

If you sincerely want Democrats to suck less, you don't really have any other choice than to be supporting DSA in whatever capacities you can.


Serious question GH, why are you on Twitter, or if you are not, why do you share posts from it?

+ Show Spoiler +
Do you disagree that it's been bought by Musk in order to manipulate the public discourse and that it's been turned into a right wing safe space with harrowing amount of racism, antisemitism and outright nazi propaganda?

Don't you think that contributing to engagement numbers on it directly contributes to the success story of one of the worse and most malicious forces for pushing right wing ideas and policies all across the western world?


I mean, we often talk about what we do in this tread and online in general and how this helps or harms the causes we believe in, isn't completely cutting off that platform the bare minimum for anyone who actually cares about fighting the things that Twitter has became associated with?

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyhow, don't know much about Angela Nixon, my only exposure to this race was a video I saw of an activist repeatedly asking Vindman why he supports the genocide in Gaza and while I'm not a fan of this kind of activism, his answers were pretty shitty so despite me kind of finding him cool because of what he did during the first Trump impeachment and his guest star appearance on Curb I was kind of rooting against him, simply put, he seemed like a militaristic true believer in American empire, not my cup of tea.

There are many non-DSA Democratic party members who don't suck, and you playing along with the right and crypto centrist push for "DSA = All of Democrats or at least it should be and also yey communism" is unsurprising.

Content and formatting (like embedded video).

No. Besides there not really being an ethical alternative, we're also using electronics with rare earths mined by hands of child slaves to access this site and any other alternative.

As far as individual action goes, getting politically organized supersedes one's personal consumption habits. Getting organized is literally the bare minimum to maintain a democratic society (of pretty much any meaningful formation).

Can't believe you typed that weak rationalization, that's not how ethics works.

The fascists don't have a monopoly on internet communication, ditch Twitter yesterday, there's no excuse. Don't lie to yourself about needing it to organize.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2622 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-19 20:45:23
August 19 2026 20:41 GMT
#118292
On August 20 2026 05:28 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2026 02:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 20 2026 01:59 Jankisa wrote:
On August 20 2026 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Angie Nixon won the primary for US Senator in Florida. Here she is saying the US should stop sending any money and weapons to Israel:

https://twitter.com/ClippingWings/status/2090041715075752075

It's really starting to show how the establishment Democrats' organizing has been hollowed out by overpaid nepotistic consultants, Epstein class sponsored media buys, oblivious sycophants, and desperate lackeys (no actually active members here afaict).

If you sincerely want Democrats to suck less, you don't really have any other choice than to be supporting DSA in whatever capacities you can.


Serious question GH, why are you on Twitter, or if you are not, why do you share posts from it?

+ Show Spoiler +
Do you disagree that it's been bought by Musk in order to manipulate the public discourse and that it's been turned into a right wing safe space with harrowing amount of racism, antisemitism and outright nazi propaganda?

Don't you think that contributing to engagement numbers on it directly contributes to the success story of one of the worse and most malicious forces for pushing right wing ideas and policies all across the western world?


I mean, we often talk about what we do in this tread and online in general and how this helps or harms the causes we believe in, isn't completely cutting off that platform the bare minimum for anyone who actually cares about fighting the things that Twitter has became associated with?

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyhow, don't know much about Angela Nixon, my only exposure to this race was a video I saw of an activist repeatedly asking Vindman why he supports the genocide in Gaza and while I'm not a fan of this kind of activism, his answers were pretty shitty so despite me kind of finding him cool because of what he did during the first Trump impeachment and his guest star appearance on Curb I was kind of rooting against him, simply put, he seemed like a militaristic true believer in American empire, not my cup of tea.

There are many non-DSA Democratic party members who don't suck, and you playing along with the right and crypto centrist push for "DSA = All of Democrats or at least it should be and also yey communism" is unsurprising.

Content and formatting (like embedded video).

No. Besides there not really being an ethical alternative, we're also using electronics with rare earths mined by hands of child slaves to access this site and any other alternative.

As far as individual action goes, getting politically organized supersedes one's personal consumption habits. Getting organized is literally the bare minimum to maintain a democratic society (of pretty much any meaningful formation).

Can't believe you typed that weak rationalization, that's not how ethics works.

The fascists don't have a monopoly on internet communication, ditch Twitter yesterday, there's no excuse. Don't lie to yourself about needing it to organize.

Weaker than gh not going to protest because gh had some stuff to do or same?

Gh is such a fraud. Just gets kicks bringing others down.

On August 20 2026 04:16 Jankisa wrote:
Shit, man, I basically abandoned Reddit and re-joined this forum over the shitty API changes over there, nuked my (mostly) inactive Twitter as soon as Musk bought it, deleted my Instagram a long time ago and never even felt a faint glimmer of need to check out what Tiktok is all about.

The only shameful remnant of my social media presence is my dormant Facebook that is basically there just because I used it to log in to a bunch of things I still use (including battle.net) when I was a kid.


Sadly I have Facebook as well. Never post, my profile pic is well over a decade old, but it’s where all the info on my kids activities are posted and I hated them missing out.

It’s sad how bad it has been for society, on purpose.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24436 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-19 22:40:15
August 19 2026 21:59 GMT
#118293
On August 20 2026 05:28 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2026 02:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 20 2026 01:59 Jankisa wrote:
On August 20 2026 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Angie Nixon won the primary for US Senator in Florida. Here she is saying the US should stop sending any money and weapons to Israel:

https://twitter.com/ClippingWings/status/2090041715075752075

It's really starting to show how the establishment Democrats' organizing has been hollowed out by overpaid nepotistic consultants, Epstein class sponsored media buys, oblivious sycophants, and desperate lackeys (no actually active members here afaict).

If you sincerely want Democrats to suck less, you don't really have any other choice than to be supporting DSA in whatever capacities you can.


Serious question GH, why are you on Twitter, or if you are not, why do you share posts from it?

+ Show Spoiler +
Do you disagree that it's been bought by Musk in order to manipulate the public discourse and that it's been turned into a right wing safe space with harrowing amount of racism, antisemitism and outright nazi propaganda?

Don't you think that contributing to engagement numbers on it directly contributes to the success story of one of the worse and most malicious forces for pushing right wing ideas and policies all across the western world?


I mean, we often talk about what we do in this tread and online in general and how this helps or harms the causes we believe in, isn't completely cutting off that platform the bare minimum for anyone who actually cares about fighting the things that Twitter has became associated with?

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyhow, don't know much about Angela Nixon, my only exposure to this race was a video I saw of an activist repeatedly asking Vindman why he supports the genocide in Gaza and while I'm not a fan of this kind of activism, his answers were pretty shitty so despite me kind of finding him cool because of what he did during the first Trump impeachment and his guest star appearance on Curb I was kind of rooting against him, simply put, he seemed like a militaristic true believer in American empire, not my cup of tea.

There are many non-DSA Democratic party members who don't suck, and you playing along with the right and crypto centrist push for "DSA = All of Democrats or at least it should be and also yey communism" is unsurprising.

Content and formatting (like embedded video).

No. Besides there not really being an ethical alternative, we're also using electronics with rare earths mined by hands of child slaves to access this site and any other alternative.

As far as individual action goes, getting politically organized supersedes one's personal consumption habits. Getting organized is literally the bare minimum to maintain a democratic society (of pretty much any meaningful formation).

Can't believe you typed that weak rationalization, that's not how ethics works.

The fascists don't have a monopoly on internet communication, ditch Twitter yesterday, there's no excuse. Don't lie to yourself about needing it to organize.

It's not a rationalization. It's the reality of living in a capitalist society with global supply chains built on/maintained through unimaginably cruel exploitation, oppression, and the abuse/killing of countless people. The actual rationalization taking place is the superficial/performative "opposition of fascism" through the far more convenient slacktivism of not participating on some websites, instead of, you know, the actual bare minimum political organizing required to actually fight fascism.

EDIT: If someone shows a comparable way to present the "offending" embedded information without twitter I'm open to replacing it btw.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2622 Posts
August 19 2026 22:13 GMT
#118294
On August 20 2026 06:59 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2026 05:28 Dan HH wrote:
On August 20 2026 02:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 20 2026 01:59 Jankisa wrote:
On August 20 2026 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Angie Nixon won the primary for US Senator in Florida. Here she is saying the US should stop sending any money and weapons to Israel:

https://twitter.com/ClippingWings/status/2090041715075752075

It's really starting to show how the establishment Democrats' organizing has been hollowed out by overpaid nepotistic consultants, Epstein class sponsored media buys, oblivious sycophants, and desperate lackeys (no actually active members here afaict).

If you sincerely want Democrats to suck less, you don't really have any other choice than to be supporting DSA in whatever capacities you can.


Serious question GH, why are you on Twitter, or if you are not, why do you share posts from it?

+ Show Spoiler +
Do you disagree that it's been bought by Musk in order to manipulate the public discourse and that it's been turned into a right wing safe space with harrowing amount of racism, antisemitism and outright nazi propaganda?

Don't you think that contributing to engagement numbers on it directly contributes to the success story of one of the worse and most malicious forces for pushing right wing ideas and policies all across the western world?


I mean, we often talk about what we do in this tread and online in general and how this helps or harms the causes we believe in, isn't completely cutting off that platform the bare minimum for anyone who actually cares about fighting the things that Twitter has became associated with?

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyhow, don't know much about Angela Nixon, my only exposure to this race was a video I saw of an activist repeatedly asking Vindman why he supports the genocide in Gaza and while I'm not a fan of this kind of activism, his answers were pretty shitty so despite me kind of finding him cool because of what he did during the first Trump impeachment and his guest star appearance on Curb I was kind of rooting against him, simply put, he seemed like a militaristic true believer in American empire, not my cup of tea.

There are many non-DSA Democratic party members who don't suck, and you playing along with the right and crypto centrist push for "DSA = All of Democrats or at least it should be and also yey communism" is unsurprising.

Content and formatting (like embedded video).

No. Besides there not really being an ethical alternative, we're also using electronics with rare earths mined by hands of child slaves to access this site and any other alternative.

As far as individual action goes, getting politically organized supersedes one's personal consumption habits. Getting organized is literally the bare minimum to maintain a democratic society (of pretty much any meaningful formation).

Can't believe you typed that weak rationalization, that's not how ethics works.

The fascists don't have a monopoly on internet communication, ditch Twitter yesterday, there's no excuse. Don't lie to yourself about needing it to organize.

It's not a rationalization. It's the reality of living in a capitalist society with global supply chains built on/maintained through unimaginably cruel exploitation, oppression, and the abuse/killing of countless people. The actual rationalization taking place is the superficial/performative "opposition of fascism" through the far more convenient slacktivism of not participating on some websites, instead of, you know, the actual bare minimum political organizing required to actually fight fascism.


OMG, put this one in the hall of fame!
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3425 Posts
August 19 2026 22:36 GMT
#118295
Twitter is great if your goal is to learn a new racial slur every day.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18000 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-20 01:02:34
August 20 2026 00:56 GMT
#118296
50 years ago today. the guy has more charisma in the toenail of his left big toe than ....
well i won't complete that.
any how, great speech. completely unprepared and ad lib. these kinds of speeches are always the best.

i would've voted for Carter. nice speech though.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44398 Posts
August 20 2026 01:07 GMT
#118297
On August 20 2026 06:59 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2026 05:28 Dan HH wrote:
On August 20 2026 02:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 20 2026 01:59 Jankisa wrote:
On August 20 2026 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Angie Nixon won the primary for US Senator in Florida. Here she is saying the US should stop sending any money and weapons to Israel:

https://twitter.com/ClippingWings/status/2090041715075752075

It's really starting to show how the establishment Democrats' organizing has been hollowed out by overpaid nepotistic consultants, Epstein class sponsored media buys, oblivious sycophants, and desperate lackeys (no actually active members here afaict).

If you sincerely want Democrats to suck less, you don't really have any other choice than to be supporting DSA in whatever capacities you can.


Serious question GH, why are you on Twitter, or if you are not, why do you share posts from it?

+ Show Spoiler +
Do you disagree that it's been bought by Musk in order to manipulate the public discourse and that it's been turned into a right wing safe space with harrowing amount of racism, antisemitism and outright nazi propaganda?

Don't you think that contributing to engagement numbers on it directly contributes to the success story of one of the worse and most malicious forces for pushing right wing ideas and policies all across the western world?


I mean, we often talk about what we do in this tread and online in general and how this helps or harms the causes we believe in, isn't completely cutting off that platform the bare minimum for anyone who actually cares about fighting the things that Twitter has became associated with?

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyhow, don't know much about Angela Nixon, my only exposure to this race was a video I saw of an activist repeatedly asking Vindman why he supports the genocide in Gaza and while I'm not a fan of this kind of activism, his answers were pretty shitty so despite me kind of finding him cool because of what he did during the first Trump impeachment and his guest star appearance on Curb I was kind of rooting against him, simply put, he seemed like a militaristic true believer in American empire, not my cup of tea.

There are many non-DSA Democratic party members who don't suck, and you playing along with the right and crypto centrist push for "DSA = All of Democrats or at least it should be and also yey communism" is unsurprising.

Content and formatting (like embedded video).

No. Besides there not really being an ethical alternative, we're also using electronics with rare earths mined by hands of child slaves to access this site and any other alternative.

As far as individual action goes, getting politically organized supersedes one's personal consumption habits. Getting organized is literally the bare minimum to maintain a democratic society (of pretty much any meaningful formation).

Can't believe you typed that weak rationalization, that's not how ethics works.

The fascists don't have a monopoly on internet communication, ditch Twitter yesterday, there's no excuse. Don't lie to yourself about needing it to organize.

It's not a rationalization. It's the reality of living in a capitalist society with global supply chains built on/maintained through unimaginably cruel exploitation, oppression, and the abuse/killing of countless people. The actual rationalization taking place is the superficial/performative "opposition of fascism" through the far more convenient slacktivism of not participating on some websites, instead of, you know, the actual bare minimum political organizing required to actually fight fascism.

EDIT: If someone shows a comparable way to present the "offending" embedded information without twitter I'm open to replacing it btw.

It’s absolutely a rationalization. You can recognize that it’s not possible to live a perfectly ethical life without succumbing to nihilism. “I can’t be ethical so why try” is an indefensible statement of moral cowardice. Trying to do better is the only expression of courage and virtue in a flawed world.
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2454 Posts
August 20 2026 01:58 GMT
#118298
In fairness to GH, I think it's logically coherent to say that meaningful organisation trumps personal participation/consumption.

The issue more surrounds what meaningful organisation actually looks like. Something GH has repeatedly refused to even make suggestions about.

Similarly, it's not the end of the world if Hasan wears all designer goods and drives a designer car, if the gathering of a large chat community under his banner gets out there and makes some real positive change in the world. Crickets on that front too, though, from what I gather.
The original Bogus fan.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6638 Posts
August 20 2026 03:37 GMT
#118299
On August 20 2026 05:28 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2026 02:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 20 2026 01:59 Jankisa wrote:
On August 20 2026 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Angie Nixon won the primary for US Senator in Florida. Here she is saying the US should stop sending any money and weapons to Israel:

https://twitter.com/ClippingWings/status/2090041715075752075

It's really starting to show how the establishment Democrats' organizing has been hollowed out by overpaid nepotistic consultants, Epstein class sponsored media buys, oblivious sycophants, and desperate lackeys (no actually active members here afaict).

If you sincerely want Democrats to suck less, you don't really have any other choice than to be supporting DSA in whatever capacities you can.


Serious question GH, why are you on Twitter, or if you are not, why do you share posts from it?

+ Show Spoiler +
Do you disagree that it's been bought by Musk in order to manipulate the public discourse and that it's been turned into a right wing safe space with harrowing amount of racism, antisemitism and outright nazi propaganda?

Don't you think that contributing to engagement numbers on it directly contributes to the success story of one of the worse and most malicious forces for pushing right wing ideas and policies all across the western world?


I mean, we often talk about what we do in this tread and online in general and how this helps or harms the causes we believe in, isn't completely cutting off that platform the bare minimum for anyone who actually cares about fighting the things that Twitter has became associated with?

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyhow, don't know much about Angela Nixon, my only exposure to this race was a video I saw of an activist repeatedly asking Vindman why he supports the genocide in Gaza and while I'm not a fan of this kind of activism, his answers were pretty shitty so despite me kind of finding him cool because of what he did during the first Trump impeachment and his guest star appearance on Curb I was kind of rooting against him, simply put, he seemed like a militaristic true believer in American empire, not my cup of tea.

There are many non-DSA Democratic party members who don't suck, and you playing along with the right and crypto centrist push for "DSA = All of Democrats or at least it should be and also yey communism" is unsurprising.

Content and formatting (like embedded video).

No. Besides there not really being an ethical alternative, we're also using electronics with rare earths mined by hands of child slaves to access this site and any other alternative.

As far as individual action goes, getting politically organized supersedes one's personal consumption habits. Getting organized is literally the bare minimum to maintain a democratic society (of pretty much any meaningful formation).

Can't believe you typed that weak rationalization, that's not how ethics works.

The fascists don't have a monopoly on internet communication, ditch Twitter yesterday, there's no excuse. Don't lie to yourself about needing it to organize.

Looking at a clip on X of MSNBC's Morning Joe show interviewing a Democrat is almost the textbook definition of fascism enabling.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States832 Posts
August 20 2026 05:41 GMT
#118300
On August 20 2026 10:58 Turbovolver wrote:it's not the end of the world if Hasan wears all designer goods and drives a designer car, if the gathering of a large chat community under his banner gets out there and makes some real positive change in the world. Crickets on that front too, though, from what I gather.
The conspicuous consumption champagne socialist lifestyle is exactly what overshadows what others do under his brand.
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