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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2645 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-01 05:38:17
June 01 2025 05:34 GMT
#99701
I weep for the absent JimmiC every time y'all refer to JimmyJRaynor as Jimmi.

JimmyJ lives in his own imagination talking to himself about most things. As an Albertan living in Alberta talking to Albertans every single day, I'll let you all know the very first time a single person even mentions Alberta seceding as a possibility. Despite JimmyJ's claims that it's a discussion Canadians are having, as an Albertan living in Alberta it isn't something I've even heard mentioned yet.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5901 Posts
June 01 2025 07:24 GMT
#99702
On June 01 2025 10:07 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2025 03:05 oBlade wrote:
On May 30 2025 02:46 KwarK wrote:
On May 30 2025 02:30 oBlade wrote:
There's nothing stopping KwarK from attacking federal agents or Teslas, he just doesn't want to get arrested. He can afford anything. There's no practical reason in his way. And obviously his personally not driving a Tesla isn't saving any of the people who are being targeted by law enforcement simply for breaking the law. But he won't actually do anything - because the affordability he enjoys comes from being married to the system so he can't betray it. Even GH's plans to actually get people to do something later are better than just pretending you would do something now.
On May 30 2025 00:38 Dan HH wrote:
On May 29 2025 18:28 Godwrath wrote:
Arguing with right-wing voters about corruption cases has an extremely long track record of going absolutely nowhere. They don’t care. When they reply with a flat “and?”, it’s not sarcasm, it’s honesty. They genuinely don’t care, and it’s not because they think corruption is good; it’s because they’ve completely normalized it. In their eyes, everyone is corrupt. Every party, every politician, every institutio, it’s all rotten. So why bother pretending otherwise?

They do care, they wish Trump wasn't corrupt, or an imbecile, or a rapist and that they didn't have to defend him for it.

I hear he also puts ketchup on well done steak, wears crocs with socks, breathes through his mouth, capitalizes random words, and oh yes clubs baby seals.

This is such a weird response to it being pointed out that he's a rapist. Rattling off a list of trivial complaints against him and including that he's a rapist in there to frame it as a big series of silly objections. Putting ketchup on steaks is not just as bad as rape and I genuinely believe that on some level you know that.

Sure KwarK, imbecile and rapist were neck-and-neck equal though so you didn't miss anything, like for example the entire point.

Putting ketchup on steaks is worse inasmuch as it's the one that's actually true. Otherwise the normal answer is that he doesn't club baby seals obviously.

On May 30 2025 02:51 LightSpectra wrote:
He does capitalize random words at least, so I think oBlade is saying he's aware Trump is a rapist, he just doesn't care.

Pretty sure George Stephanopoulos had to pony up millions for running with that.

Stephanopoulos' case was not won in court but was settled outside of court.

1) Do you think there is a material difference on whether one is a rapist a) if one forcibly use an object or b) if one forcibly uses their own member?

2) Do you think the only reason a person would settle rather than fight a lawsuit is because they know they are in the wrong?

Strong line of inquiry. I guess it's possible a person could avoid facing a lawsuit in court because they believe they might get railroaded despite not being in the wrong, which sometimes happens as you imply. Especially for defamation cases like Stephanopoulos's. After all, standards of proof to award damages at a lawsuit are different than those for criminal cases. Just get the wrong jury or wrong judge and things might have gone pretty south for Stephanopoulos. He was wise to avoid a situation like that entirely, although I wouldn't hold it against him if he tried to fight it. Settling lets you lose anyway, but with less drawn-out and potentially harmful publicity and lower damages. Just tear the bandaid right off and be done with it. He could also be extremely busy, and it takes a while to appeal, or the local opinion could be biased against him, which might have hurt his chances despite his actual lack of wrongdoing. You bring up a good point.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-01 07:52:05
June 01 2025 07:51 GMT
#99703
On June 01 2025 14:34 Fleetfeet wrote:
I weep for the absent JimmiC every time y'all refer to JimmyJRaynor as Jimmi.

JimmyJ lives in his own imagination talking to himself about most things. As an Albertan living in Alberta talking to Albertans every single day, I'll let you all know the very first time a single person even mentions Alberta seceding as a possibility. Despite JimmyJ's claims that it's a discussion Canadians are having, as an Albertan living in Alberta it isn't something I've even heard mentioned yet.

Some people say if you write a letter addressed to 'my beautiful darling JimmiC' he will come back here, but it will be in a guise you may not recognise..
RIP Meatloaf <3
Taelshin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada420 Posts
June 01 2025 08:15 GMT
#99704
why? he had lost his mind by the end. Hope he's doing better now, Dude suffered from the nonsense of this forum. Worst part is he was right about Kwark treating this forum like his personal playground unchallenged by 99% of the posters (boot licked by half of them). God speed JimmyC where ever you are.

FWIW I don't really agree with JimmyR on the Canadian Identity stuff. I think you'd find a bit more of a unique regional identity on the east coast maybe then your used to in the greater TO area, Also if you've ever been to say the Thunderbay area they do it a bit different as well.. That being said we have imported a lot of people who clearly aren't (at least for now) assimilating and in fact are avidly not assimilating. Idk if that's good or bad but it is a thing.

Also not the Canada land politics thread. How's the land of the free doing? .
"We didnt listen"
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18854 Posts
June 01 2025 13:10 GMT
#99705
On June 01 2025 16:51 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2025 14:34 Fleetfeet wrote:
I weep for the absent JimmiC every time y'all refer to JimmyJRaynor as Jimmi.

JimmyJ lives in his own imagination talking to himself about most things. As an Albertan living in Alberta talking to Albertans every single day, I'll let you all know the very first time a single person even mentions Alberta seceding as a possibility. Despite JimmyJ's claims that it's a discussion Canadians are having, as an Albertan living in Alberta it isn't something I've even heard mentioned yet.

Some people say if you write a letter addressed to 'my beautiful darling JimmiC' he will come back here, but it will be in a guise you may not recognise..

A Jimmi by any other name….
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43598 Posts
June 01 2025 13:33 GMT
#99706
I'm very tickled by the idea that Taelshin thinks my authority is so intimidating. The idea of him mustering all of his courage to boldly go against the herd when he reads my posts is just very funny to me.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
June 01 2025 14:54 GMT
#99707
On June 01 2025 17:15 Taelshin wrote:
why? he had lost his mind by the end. Hope he's doing better now, Dude suffered from the nonsense of this forum. Worst part is he was right about Kwark treating this forum like his personal playground unchallenged by 99% of the posters (boot licked by half of them). God speed JimmyC where ever you are.

FWIW I don't really agree with JimmyR on the Canadian Identity stuff. I think you'd find a bit more of a unique regional identity on the east coast maybe then your used to in the greater TO area, Also if you've ever been to say the Thunderbay area they do it a bit different as well.. That being said we have imported a lot of people who clearly aren't (at least for now) assimilating and in fact are avidly not assimilating. Idk if that's good or bad but it is a thing.

Also not the Canada land politics thread. How's the land of the free doing? .

It’s a way more active thread, and it’s only being brought up due to the 51st State rhetoric which is fully within the US Pol remit. If I thought it was really much of a thing I’d go discuss further over there, but it seems to be a Jimmy exclusive

Thanks to you Canucks for your collective half a dollar!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45289 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-01 17:10:24
June 01 2025 17:07 GMT
#99708
On Trump's truth social account, he reposted this message: "There is no #JoeBiden - executed in 2020.
#Biden clones doubles & robotic engineered soulless mindless entities are what you see."
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114605660077722777

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-shares-post-claiming-joe-biden-was-executed-replaced-by-clones/ar-AA1FRhKY?ocid=BingNewsSerp&fbclid=IwY2xjawKpZuhleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHj3vZra3FjE_JIW6ZqMXhEeield3iVlbGGJInRVQ6pMIaYMoqf2DgnYDC30F_aem_h9Fsy0VNSU-OHESX_wvd1w
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11752 Posts
June 01 2025 17:09 GMT
#99709
Why are they still so focused on Biden? He is not president, nor will he ever be again. I doubt that he will ever play a relevant part in politics again.

Is it just about having to have an enemy that they already know, or is it because he won an election against them once, and they just cannot deal with the fact that big orange lost?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45289 Posts
June 01 2025 17:16 GMT
#99710
On June 02 2025 02:09 Simberto wrote:
Why are they still so focused on Biden? He is not president, nor will he ever be again. I doubt that he will ever play a relevant part in politics again.

Is it just about having to have an enemy that they already know, or is it because he won an election against them once, and they just cannot deal with the fact that big orange lost?


Trump's been blaming Biden for this year's economic failures and any other issues he has. Apparently, the buck stopped in January.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
June 01 2025 17:50 GMT
#99711
On June 02 2025 02:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2025 02:09 Simberto wrote:
Why are they still so focused on Biden? He is not president, nor will he ever be again. I doubt that he will ever play a relevant part in politics again.

Is it just about having to have an enemy that they already know, or is it because he won an election against them once, and they just cannot deal with the fact that big orange lost?


Trump's been blaming Biden for this year's economic failures and any other issues he has. Apparently, the buck stopped in January.

How can you blame a clone/android replacement for these things? Surely they’ve yet to develop that real-world experience in order to navigate such tricky waters?

I have long since given up on there being any kind of idiocy that becomes disqualify these days. Fucking hell lads this is the President

Perhaps at some, hopefully imminent juncture we can look back and ‘wow that was a couple of weird years’, fingers crossed

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45289 Posts
June 01 2025 18:10 GMT
#99712
On June 02 2025 02:50 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2025 02:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 02 2025 02:09 Simberto wrote:
Why are they still so focused on Biden? He is not president, nor will he ever be again. I doubt that he will ever play a relevant part in politics again.

Is it just about having to have an enemy that they already know, or is it because he won an election against them once, and they just cannot deal with the fact that big orange lost?


Trump's been blaming Biden for this year's economic failures and any other issues he has. Apparently, the buck stopped in January.

How can you blame a clone/android replacement for these things? Surely they’ve yet to develop that real-world experience in order to navigate such tricky waters?

I have long since given up on there being any kind of idiocy that becomes disqualify these days. Fucking hell lads this is the President

Perhaps at some, hopefully imminent juncture we can look back and ‘wow that was a couple of weird years’, fingers crossed



I think the longest residual effects will occur in the judicial branch, thanks to the probably-decades-long tenure of Trump's SCJ appointees.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11752 Posts
June 01 2025 18:33 GMT
#99713
At this point, it is very optimistic to assume that this will just go away on its own. For one, i am not convinced that Trump will willingly give up power, and I am not convinced that after the currently occuring Gleichschaltung there is enough will in the institutions left to resist him.

But even if he were to leave, the republican party and lots of other "conservative" parties and their media outlets around the world have been thoroughly infected with this insanity. And so far, at any junction where they have had a choice to get off the insanity and return to the normal world, they have without fault chosen to double down.

This shit will be with us for a while.
Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
901 Posts
June 02 2025 09:00 GMT
#99714
Did I miss the outrage on Cory Booker performing nazi salute?

https://www.newsweek.com/maga-accuses-democratic-senator-cory-booker-doing-nazi-salute-2079436

EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2779 Posts
June 02 2025 09:18 GMT
#99715
On June 02 2025 18:00 Razyda wrote:
Did I miss the outrage on Cory Booker performing nazi salute?

https://www.newsweek.com/maga-accuses-democratic-senator-cory-booker-doing-nazi-salute-2079436



Are you making the argument that Cory Booker and Elon Musk are equally placed on the "how closely aligned with nazi ideology" scale?

What is the actual point you're trying to make?
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45289 Posts
June 02 2025 09:25 GMT
#99716
On June 02 2025 18:00 Razyda wrote:
Did I miss the outrage on Cory Booker performing nazi salute?

https://www.newsweek.com/maga-accuses-democratic-senator-cory-booker-doing-nazi-salute-2079436



Nice try lol.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22102 Posts
June 02 2025 09:54 GMT
#99717
On June 02 2025 18:00 Razyda wrote:
Did I miss the outrage on Cory Booker performing nazi salute?

https://www.newsweek.com/maga-accuses-democratic-senator-cory-booker-doing-nazi-salute-2079436

No you missed the difference between fingers spread for a good bye and the fingers closers and stiff of a nazi salute.

Also ofcourse the video instantly cuts off before you can see him further waving goodbye to the crowd where Elon did a 2nd salute just to make sure you couldn't mistake the first one for what it was.

Guess the right wing didn't learn from their initial counter offensive after Musks nazi salute. You can cut video and pictures to make a lot of waves look like a salute, but you don't have to cut Musks at all, he makes real sure you know what your seeing.

(obv doing this sort of wave in the current political situation in the US (and outside) is not the smartest thing to do)
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
June 02 2025 09:54 GMT
#99718
On June 02 2025 18:00 Razyda wrote:
Did I miss the outrage on Cory Booker performing nazi salute?

https://www.newsweek.com/maga-accuses-democratic-senator-cory-booker-doing-nazi-salute-2079436



You could write the book on deliberately ignoring context.
RIP Meatloaf <3
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland961 Posts
June 02 2025 10:14 GMT
#99719
On June 02 2025 18:00 Razyda wrote:
Did I miss the outrage on Cory Booker performing nazi salute?

https://www.newsweek.com/maga-accuses-democratic-senator-cory-booker-doing-nazi-salute-2079436



What are you trying to do here?
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1163 Posts
June 02 2025 10:26 GMT
#99720
Jesus, guy, take the L, how much of an Elon fanboy do you need to be, first you tried to push "leftists are the real nazis" in order to shield him now it's on to "see, a Democrat did the same thing a week ago why aren't you outraged".

It does say a lot that these are the things that you Elon/Trump enjoyers come to these threads with, I guess actually arguing for the insane shit they've been doing is kind of impossible so all you are left is "technically Trump is not a convicted rapist" and "actually Elon did a common wave that everyone does".
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
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