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On March 04 2025 23:57 Sermokala wrote:
Trudeau has already said hes not running in the next election. Trump's tariffs have singlehandedly turned the Canadian political sphere on its head from a conservative majority to a competitive election where the liberals can somehow hold onto power.
Trudeau bowed out because his approval rating was 20%. He won't open parliament because it will trigger an election. Trudeau has crippled Canada.
The polls in Canada changed substantially right after Trudeau resigned. I'd say the "political sphere" changed more because Trudeau quit than anything Trump has done. Trump has done a lot though.
And before we have a pity party for Canada...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68621012
Fentanyl possession is legal in BC. There are massive fentanyl labs in BC. Not much of it is crossing the border. However, the optics are horrible. The reason Canada does not have a problem with Fentanyl coming into their country is that it is all made at home.
Canada is about to get crushed... and a lot of it.. they did to themselves.
BC must make fentanyl possession illegal.
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On March 04 2025 21:12 Belisarius wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Trump's a bully. The key with bullies is they run away from any actual fight, and invading Mexico would be such a hornet's nest that even Trump should realise he doesn't want to do that.
He's lucked into control of the most powerful military on earth, and he's getting a kick out of using it to demand his friends' lunch money, but I don't think he's got the balls or the commitment to start an actual war of his own. There's more than enough wealth within the US that his oligarchs can 10x their dragon hoards just by completing the takeover of their own country. They don't need to light half of it on fire taking over a bunch of desert as well. .
LibHorizons: The most vocal Trump critics here are aggressively opposed to doing pretty much anything but talking about how stupid/bad Republicans/socialists are and eventually voting for who Democrat leadership tells them to (and/or ordering others to do the same). They don't even want to discuss how to retake the house this midterm and/or where we need to be directing organizing and resources right now to make that happen. They don't want to discuss how we can tell the Democrats we should support apart from the Democrats we should primary. They don't want to discuss the policies Democrats should put front and center to win these seats and so on.
The local Democrats I'm working with are understanding why they can't act like libs/Dems/ilk here. It took a fraction of the effort for them to recognize it so we could productively move forward.
The libs/Dems/ilk here are simply uninterested in doing any of the necessary work and prefer to just whine and wish it were better.
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On March 05 2025 00:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2025 23:57 Sermokala wrote:
Trudeau has already said hes not running in the next election. Trump's tariffs have singlehandedly turned the Canadian political sphere on its head from a conservative majority to a competitive election where the liberals can somehow hold onto power. Trudeau bowed out because his approval rating was 20%. He won't open parliament because it will trigger an election. Trudeau has crippled Canada. The polls in Canada changed substantially right after Trudeau resigned. I'd say the "political sphere" changed more because Trudeau quit than anything Trump has done. Trump has done a lot though.
These are things you should take note of from your last post and the questions you asked in it.
What happened right after Trudeau resigned?
Its pretty funny to see GH criticize dems/libs for not doing work when him and other socialists can't even get out and vote to stop Trump. Until the day comes when he recognizes that he has agency and is responsible for the consequences of his actions, I'm not going to accept criticism from those that actively help the harm from the right.
On March 05 2025 00:12 KT_Elwood wrote:Maga makes free speech great again: ![[image loading]](https://i.redd.it/nlmj4htkiome1.jpeg) I mean obviously he has no authority to do all the shit he says, but again.. he wants to, and if the americans keep pretending "it's not so bad" he will get it.
I really hope we reach the day when GH can say that its that bad and we should do the simple thing in front of us to stop him from having the power to do these things. I just don't have confidence in Americans to recognize "illegal protests" as being an alarming thing to read from someone and that they should do something to stop it.
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Maga makes free speech great again:
I mean obviously he has no authority to do all the shit he says, but again.. he wants to, and if the americans keep pretending "it's not so bad" he will get it.
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Northern Ireland24945 Posts
Jimmy, a country being wealthier than neighbours and offering economic opportunity doesn’t mean it can’t be Fascist.
The US’ structures also don’t preclude it becoming Fascist.
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On March 05 2025 00:14 WombaT wrote:
Jimmy, a country being wealthier than neighbours and offering economic opportunity doesn’t mean it can’t be Fascist.
The US’ structures also don’t preclude it becoming Fascist.
So this time the USA is turning into Hitler's Germany? Not the other 5,000 times?
academics have been screaming about the USA turning into Hitler Germany for many decades.
https://www.amazon.ca/Ominous-Parallels-Leonard-Peikoff/dp/0452011175
The Ominous Parallels is an impressive piece of work. This Piekoff guy knows lots of big words and could probably win a debate against most people in 1982 about the USA becoming Hitler Germany. Dr. Piekoff is also wrong.
On March 05 2025 00:08 Sermokala wrote:
What happened right after Trudeau resigned?
how long have you lived in Canada? I spend about 90 days a year in the country. The "Fuck Trudeau" flags is as popular as the Canadian flag. Trudeau was "elected" with the lowest popular vote in Canadian history. Trudeau is super hated. It is no surprise the Liberals popularity went way up when he quit.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/canadian-living-standards-declining-no-end-sight
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Thats nice and all but that wasn't the question you were asked so I'm going to do it again, what happened right after Trudeau resigned?
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On March 04 2025 23:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:So far, I think Mexico is handling the tariff situation better than Canada. I can see why Sheinbaum is far more popular in Mexico than Trudeau is in Canada. Show nested quote +On March 04 2025 18:55 KT_Elwood wrote:
Trump Admin will use the US military to attack a country/Region this year.
Might be Canada, might be Mexico.. or Greenland.. or Gaza.
Why? Fascist playbook 101.
ur political opposition's fate to your own wellbeing.
thanks for the laughs man. Here is how it works dude.... In "fascism" the citizens of neighbouring countries don't want to be in the "fascist country" because its garbage. Canadians and Mexicans by the hundreds of thousands want to move to America. There are very few full time job//career Americans who want to move to Mexico and/or Canada. There are hundreds of thousands of full-time-job // career motivated Canadians who want to move to the USA. We're talking DRs, Nurses, Medical Technologists, Software Engineers, Computer Scientists, Academics, Electricians. These hard working Canadians have options... and they choose .. of their own free will.. to move to the USA. We already know how badly the people in Mexico want into the USA. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/employment/visas-canadian-mexican-usmca-professional-workers.htmlWhen the drug cartels in Mexico take a shot at US border patrol agents and then the US military fires back... you can call that a "US military attack on Mexico" and then claim you are right. LOL. The way the USA is structured it can't be fascist. Also, there are areas where Trump is reducing Federal powers and giving that power to the states. The abortion issue is one... each state has their own laws. the Education Secretary's mandate is to hand the power of choice back to the individual states. Trump is pulling out of the Ukraine. In many ways, Trump is reducing the reach of the Federal government.
Your post is riddled with errors and bad logic. A lot of people went to Germany between 1933-1939. The declaration that if a country is turning fascist nobody moves there is simply false. You’re also using evidence from the Biden presidency and earlier to support a point about this Trump administration. I’m actually an example of how dumb your point is. You’re saying “if 2025 America is fascist then how come KwarK moved here in 2014” to which I would reply “I wouldn’t do it again in 2025”. As an example of an immigrant I can state that your post about immigrants is the opposite of true.
The idea of Trump as a Federalist interested in reducing the power of the Federal government over the states is laughable. You’re a clown and you say clown things.
The idea that “this should be up to the states” is something conservatives actually believe is laughable. “State’s rights” is a meme argument, a running joke that has never once been serious. When northern states opposed slavery the south declared it should be up to them. But when northern states refused to practice slavery within their own territories the south used the power of the Federal government to force them to with the Fugitive Slave Act. Nothing has changed. If abortion is legal on a national level then they declare the states should decide. If it’s legal on a state level but they control the Federal government then suddenly the Federal government should decide. The problem with engaging with you is that you know so very little about anything that it’s hard to know if you genuinely haven’t noticed that “State’s Rights” is a meme. If Oblade said the dumb shit you said I’d know he was just spouting memes in bad faith because he’s informed. He’s like a compass that always points south, everything he says is wrong, but he’s reliably wrong, it’s always the furthest point from correct which means he knows where north is. But with you my sense is that you literally aren’t from this planet and you’re desperately trying to pass as a human without any of the background knowledge or life experience that you need.
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Northern Ireland24945 Posts
On March 05 2025 00:12 KT_Elwood wrote:
Maga makes free speech great again:
I mean obviously he has no authority to do all the shit he says, but again.. he wants to, and if the americans keep pretending "it's not so bad" he will get it.
Yeah I saw this earlier. Totally not concerning. What even constitutes the ‘illegal’ in ‘illegal protest’ here?
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On March 05 2025 00:08 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2025 00:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 04 2025 23:57 Sermokala wrote:
Trudeau has already said hes not running in the next election. Trump's tariffs have singlehandedly turned the Canadian political sphere on its head from a conservative majority to a competitive election where the liberals can somehow hold onto power. Trudeau bowed out because his approval rating was 20%. He won't open parliament because it will trigger an election. Trudeau has crippled Canada. The polls in Canada changed substantially right after Trudeau resigned. I'd say the "political sphere" changed more because Trudeau quit than anything Trump has done. Trump has done a lot though. + Show Spoiler +These are things you should take note of from your last post and the questions you asked in it.
What happened right after Trudeau resigned? Its pretty funny to see GH criticize dems/libs for not doing work when him and other socialists can't even get out and vote to stop Trump. Until the day comes when he recognizes that he has agency and is responsible for the consequences of his actions, I'm not going to accept criticism from those that actively help the harm from the right.
LibHorzions: I voted for Harris bruh. It's also pretty stupid to let GH's posts prevent you from doing the work we all know needs to be done. I believe you can be better than that.
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Trudeau was not very popular and the Liberals did get a minor bump when he resigned. But when Trump started his crap was when the Liberals made huge gains. You could look at the polls, betting markets talk to Canadians for like a hour and you would find out that Trump is the way bigger factor. Why else would Pierre have swapped his opinion on the American right?
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Some observations I have made recently:
- Calling something culture war probably means you are willing to go to war over it. I'm not sure how many times this has happened over history.
- Demands for being thankful are never-ending and require you to bend over always. This shows how transactional actions are viewed. It does not matter how the ones making demands have treated you. You may get aid or asylum, but you will have to accept everything in the future as a sign of gratitude.
- Many people think that taking action later will be less risky and cost less than taking action now, even when they feel things will get worse in the future. Action is only to be taken when there is no personal risk, or you have nothing to lose.
- Plenty of democrats/liberals also seem to fear that taking action will lead to a change in a way that they do not want. It would be awful if society were more critical of billionaires, corporations, private health care, right-wing policies, etc. Thus, taking action is to be avoided. You need to trust that you will be in power after the crisis has passed.
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On March 05 2025 00:16 KwarK wrote:
The idea of Trump as a Federalist interested in reducing the power of the Federal government over the states is laughable. You’re a clown and you say clown things.
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it’s always the furthest point from correct which means he knows where north is. But with you my sense is that you literally aren’t from this planet and you’re desperately trying to pass as a human without any of the background knowledge or life experience that you need.
i have silly, stupid fun on video game forum boards that try to talk Canadian politics... that is for sure.
tell me, how much life experience do i need? tell me, what my life experience was from age ... ohh .. let's say 17 to 23. You say i don't have the life experience i need. What has been my life experience?
On March 05 2025 00:20 Billyboy wrote:Trudeau was not very popular and the Liberals did get a minor bump when he resigned. But when Trump started his crap was when the Liberals made huge gains. You could look at the polls, betting markets talk to Canadians for like a hour and you would find out that Trump is the way bigger factor. Why else would Pierre have swapped his opinion on the American right?
It was not a small bump.. it was a huge increase. Then, once Carney solidified himself as the front runner it went up even more. Tariffs are a factor. However, Trudeau's abysmal failure and exit along with Carney's ascension is a bigger factor.
Never in the last 60 years have the Liberals been as unpopular as they were for many years under Trudeau. Canada returned to normal once Carney started talking. For a very short time under Ignatieff the Liberals were this unpopular. They've been very unpopular for years now.
If you want a full discussion in the Canadian politics thread about it... go for it. The Liberals unpopularity is on Trudeau. Their rise from historically low unpopularity back to their normal/standard popularity is due to Trudeau leaving.
On March 05 2025 00:16 Sermokala wrote:Thats nice and all but that wasn't the question you were asked so I'm going to do it again, what happened right after Trudeau resigned?
I believe your perspective is incorrect and I've demonstrated that. IF you wish to delve further into this issue please discuss it in the Canadian politics thread and also examine my answer to billyboy above.
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United States42490 Posts
On March 05 2025 00:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2025 00:16 KwarK wrote:
The idea of Trump as a Federalist interested in reducing the power of the Federal government over the states is laughable. You’re a clown and you say clown things.
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it’s always the furthest point from correct which means he knows where north is. But with you my sense is that you literally aren’t from this planet and you’re desperately trying to pass as a human without any of the background knowledge or life experience that you need. i have silly, stupid fun on video game forum boards that try to talk Canadian politics... that is for sure. tell me, how much life experience do i need? tell me, what my life experience was from age ... ohh .. let's say 17 to 23. You say i don't have the life experience i need. What has been my life experience?
This is speculative but I’d guess that your ship landed here about 15 years ago and the cultural education materials you were provided to help you assimilate consisted of a video of a speech by Reagan and the movies “The Mighty Ducks” and “Rocky IV”. This has left you coming across as a little stunted a with some strange ideas about Italian Americans, hockey, sports competition with the USSR, and America.
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On March 05 2025 00:36 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2025 00:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 05 2025 00:16 KwarK wrote:
The idea of Trump as a Federalist interested in reducing the power of the Federal government over the states is laughable. You’re a clown and you say clown things.
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it’s always the furthest point from correct which means he knows where north is. But with you my sense is that you literally aren’t from this planet and you’re desperately trying to pass as a human without any of the background knowledge or life experience that you need. i have silly, stupid fun on video game forum boards that try to talk Canadian politics... that is for sure. tell me, how much life experience do i need? tell me, what my life experience was from age ... ohh .. let's say 17 to 23. You say i don't have the life experience i need. What has been my life experience? This is speculative but I’d guess that your ship landed here about 15 years ago and the cultural education materials you were provided to help you assimilate consisted of a video of a speech by Reagan and the movies “The Mighty Ducks” and “Rocky IV”. This has left you coming across as a little stunted a with some strange ideas about Italian Americans, hockey, sports competition with the USSR, and America.
this is all wrong though. from 17 to 23 i had a dozen jobs and over a hundred job interviews. That is pretty good life experience. I will say though, I love Italian-Canadians even more than i love Italian-Americans. I'd say Phil Esposito is my favourite Italian-Canadian.
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On March 05 2025 00:17 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2025 00:12 KT_Elwood wrote:
Maga makes free speech great again:
I mean obviously he has no authority to do all the shit he says, but again.. he wants to, and if the americans keep pretending "it's not so bad" he will get it. Yeah I saw this earlier. Totally not concerning. What even constitutes the ‘illegal’ in ‘illegal protest’ here?
LibHorizons: Pretty obvious reference to the campus protests for Palestinians which Democrats already deemed illegal before sending in police to violently stop them. Doubt he stops there though.
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The funny thing Canada could do is propose an egg deal that Trump needs to come to sign. The Canadian eggs could be marketed as Canadian Egg Aid—"Be thankful for your allies." Before signing the deal, they could have a friendly discussion in front of the press, like the one with Zelenskyi. That would truly be great television. I'm sure that the deal would remove tariffs and bring the alliance back together. Even egg prices would come down. Unfortunately, I don't think Trump would be up to such a fantastic deal.
It is a bit sad that politicians treat clowns so seriously and respectfully nowadays. It does not even seem to be effective when the clowns are wannabe strong men.
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Northern Ireland24945 Posts
On March 05 2025 00:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2025 00:36 KwarK wrote:On March 05 2025 00:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 05 2025 00:16 KwarK wrote:
The idea of Trump as a Federalist interested in reducing the power of the Federal government over the states is laughable. You’re a clown and you say clown things.
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it’s always the furthest point from correct which means he knows where north is. But with you my sense is that you literally aren’t from this planet and you’re desperately trying to pass as a human without any of the background knowledge or life experience that you need. i have silly, stupid fun on video game forum boards that try to talk Canadian politics... that is for sure. tell me, how much life experience do i need? tell me, what my life experience was from age ... ohh .. let's say 17 to 23. You say i don't have the life experience i need. What has been my life experience? This is speculative but I’d guess that your ship landed here about 15 years ago and the cultural education materials you were provided to help you assimilate consisted of a video of a speech by Reagan and the movies “The Mighty Ducks” and “Rocky IV”. This has left you coming across as a little stunted a with some strange ideas about Italian Americans, hockey, sport’s competition with the USSR, and America. this is all wrong though. from 17 to 23 i had a dozen jobs and over a hundred job interviews. That is pretty good life experience. I will say though, I love Italian-Canadians even more than i love Italian-Americans. I'd say Phil Esposito is my favourite Italian-Canadian.
The problem isn’t your life experience, the problem is you seem incapable of factoring in anyone else’s.
Your solution to basically every conceivable problem is ‘oh well I did x, y and z, why can’t everyone else do it?’
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Northern Ireland24945 Posts
On March 05 2025 00:53 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2025 00:17 WombaT wrote:On March 05 2025 00:12 KT_Elwood wrote:
Maga makes free speech great again:
I mean obviously he has no authority to do all the shit he says, but again.. he wants to, and if the americans keep pretending "it's not so bad" he will get it. Yeah I saw this earlier. Totally not concerning. What even constitutes the ‘illegal’ in ‘illegal protest’ here? LibHorizons: Pretty obvious reference to the campus protests for Palestinians which Democrats already deemed illegal before sending in police to violently stop them. Doubt he stops there though.
What was the threshold there?
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On March 05 2025 00:19 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2025 00:08 Sermokala wrote:On March 05 2025 00:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 04 2025 23:57 Sermokala wrote:
Trudeau has already said hes not running in the next election. Trump's tariffs have singlehandedly turned the Canadian political sphere on its head from a conservative majority to a competitive election where the liberals can somehow hold onto power. Trudeau bowed out because his approval rating was 20%. He won't open parliament because it will trigger an election. Trudeau has crippled Canada. The polls in Canada changed substantially right after Trudeau resigned. I'd say the "political sphere" changed more because Trudeau quit than anything Trump has done. Trump has done a lot though. + Show Spoiler +These are things you should take note of from your last post and the questions you asked in it.
What happened right after Trudeau resigned? Its pretty funny to see GH criticize dems/libs for not doing work when him and other socialists can't even get out and vote to stop Trump. Until the day comes when he recognizes that he has agency and is responsible for the consequences of his actions, I'm not going to accept criticism from those that actively help the harm from the right. LibHorzions: I voted for Harris bruh. It's also pretty stupid to let GH's posts prevent you from doing the work we all know needs to be done. I believe you can be better than that.
I don't know If I need to be the one to tell you but that means to GH that you're a genocide supporter and actively support what happens in Palestine. He is the one on the moral high ground that told us that Harris didn't need to win and that it wasn't important enough to vote for her to prevent Trump from doing what you are trying to "convince" others to work to prevent. Theres no evidence to support his standards when by his reputation he's not going to support you libhorizons in anything you do or attempt to do. Trying to preform for him and sharing what work you do in your community is meaningless when he will find some other hill to die on in the next election as he actively tries to sabatoge your efforts in order to help republicans get elected again.
On March 05 2025 00:16 Sermokala wrote:Thats nice and all but that wasn't the question you were asked so I'm going to do it again, what happened right after Trudeau resigned?
I believe your perspective is incorrect and I've demonstrated that. IF you wish to delve further into this issue please discuss it in the Canadian politics thread and also examine my answer to billyboy above.[/QUOTE]
Can you please follow the same advice and stop talking about Canadian politics in this thread?
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