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micronesia
United States24740 Posts
It has to be a bulleted list. + Show Spoiler +
I've already seen this proposed multiple times from multiple sources by the way. One of the senior leaders in my program sent an e-mail telling everyone to stand by and not reply while they seek guidance from above... | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26003 Posts
On February 23 2025 09:40 Acrofales wrote: Too long. How about: "Your momma" E: actually wombat has a point. Somebody has to read those emails, so I'd ask chatgpt to write me a 5000 word essay of what it thinks someone in my position should get done in a week, in excruciating detail and lots of jargon. Oh, and make sure fucking the reader's momma is listed somewhere around word 2700. Is there a better form of compliance than malicious compliance? | ||
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oBlade
United States5765 Posts
On February 23 2025 07:35 Simberto wrote: This is correct and important to realize. oBlade doesn't believe in anything he says. He may actually believe that he believes it (I don't know that), but if his leader would say the opposite tomorrow, he would immediately hold that position too. There are zero core principles at play with modern conservatives. Everything they say is just because they believe it makes them win (a debate, an election, whatever). He can say A today, and B tomorrow, and will either insist he never said A, or that A and B are totally compatible because the situations cannot be compared in any way. Where he gets what to believe today from, i cannot say. My guess is Fox News or something like that. But every interaction with him needs to keep this in mind. You cannot convince him, because he holds no principles, has no beliefs, and doesn't actually care about the issue. He just wants to win. I'm not a conservative and don't have a leader. Every time someone, like GH, or some guy who made an account this month, chooses to out of the blue to post my name out of nowhere is a sign they have run out of things they know about or have any interest in, if they think stooping to "but oBlade" is a US political topic. Which is sad because there's always so much happening. I only care about issues. The attempts at soul-reading and childish name-calling are not befitting contributions. That's why you don't see me respond in kind when this happens out of the blue. It's why I won't even postulate that your post is massive projection. I am not your boogeyman. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28706 Posts
On February 23 2025 09:40 Acrofales wrote: Too long. How about: "Your momma" E: actually wombat has a point. Somebody has to read those emails, so I'd ask chatgpt to write me a 5000 word essay of what it thinks someone in my position should get done in a week, in excruciating detail and lots of jargon. Oh, and make sure fucking the reader's momma is listed somewhere around word 2700. Tbh I'd expect elon to have AI read the emails (and make the calls) so while that unironically is probably wise if you want to keep your job it won't give the satisfaction of wasting somebody's time. | ||
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Slydie
1927 Posts
On February 23 2025 15:19 Liquid`Drone wrote: Tbh I'd expect elon to have AI read the emails (and make the calls) so while that unironically is probably wise if you want to keep your job it won't give the satisfaction of wasting somebody's time. Sounds reasonable. It once again shows incompetence by Musk. Unnecessary and time consuming reporting is one of the main causes of government inefficiency, and here he comes, asking for even more reporting🙄 While writing a report, you are not doing your main job, and the person reading the report also does nothing useful. | ||
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Hat Trick of Today
142 Posts
On February 23 2025 17:37 Slydie wrote: Sounds reasonable. It once again shows incompetence by Musk. Unnecessary and time consuming reporting is one of the main causes of government inefficiency, and here he comes, asking for even more reporting🙄 While writing a report, you are not doing your main job, and the person reading the report also does nothing useful. They’re not reading anything, beyond doing a MMO filter for ‘woke words’, they’re just looking for anyone showing any resistance to the request. It’s exactly like Twitter where they fired anyone who expressed their confusion at how idiotic printing an entire forest worth of paper code to justify their position at the company is. You know bosses like this who get you to do absolute stupid shit as a power play. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18112 Posts
On February 23 2025 15:19 Liquid`Drone wrote: Tbh I'd expect elon to have AI read the emails (and make the calls) so while that unironically is probably wise if you want to keep your job it won't give the satisfaction of wasting somebody's time. ![[image loading]](https://marketoonist.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/230327.n.aiwritten.jpg) We truly live in the most productive age. I think I'll go and make an account on xitter so I can share the prompt I just spent 3 minutes on with him Pretend you're an administrative employee of the US department of health. Write an email to Elon Musk with 5 bullet points of absolutely essential tasks you did last week. Make it sound like you're saving the world, but avoid sounding woke. ChatGPT's response seems good enough for the task at hand. **Subject: ** Critical Public Health Efforts – Weekly Update Dear Mr. Musk, I hope this email finds you well. As part of our ongoing mission to safeguard public health, I wanted to share some of the critical work we accomplished last week. These efforts directly impact millions of lives, ensuring a safer and healthier future for all. - **Rapid Disease Containment: ** Coordinated an emergency response team to contain a fast-spreading infection in a major metropolitan area, preventing what could have been a nationwide outbreak. - **Medical Supply Chain Stabilization: ** Secured and distributed essential medical supplies to hospitals facing shortages, ensuring life-saving treatments were available for critical patients. - **Innovative Health Data Integration: ** Implemented a new AI-driven system to analyze disease trends in real time, allowing for faster intervention and more effective resource allocation. - **Water Safety Crisis Averted: ** Worked with engineers and scientists to identify and neutralize a potential contamination threat in a major water supply, safeguarding the health of millions. - **Vaccine Rollout Acceleration: ** Streamlined logistics to expedite vaccine distribution in high-risk communities, cutting red tape and increasing access where it’s needed most. Each of these initiatives directly impacts lives, and we continue to push forward with urgency and precision. Let me know if you’d like further details or if there are opportunities for collaboration. Best, [Your Name] [Your Title] Department of Health I tested it for "soil quality advisor" for the department of agriculture too and the non-woke bit was enough for it to avoid saying climate crisis. It even seems pretty good for this one, which seems impossible to avoid "woke pitfalls"! **Subject: ** Critical Climate Modeling Updates from NOAA Dear Mr. Musk, I hope this email finds you well. As part of NOAA’s cutting-edge climate modeling team, I wanted to share some of the critical tasks we tackled last week—work that directly informs global risk assessment and mitigation strategies. Time is of the essence, and our models are refining the frontier of what’s possible. 1. **Fine-Tuning Hurricane Path Predictions** – We enhanced real-time storm trajectory algorithms, improving landfall accuracy by 17%. This means better preparation time and more precise emergency response for millions of people. 2. **Arctic Ice Sheet Stability Analysis** – Using advanced computational fluid dynamics, we mapped glacial movement to pinpoint thresholds for irreversible ice loss. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for global sea-level risk assessments. 3. **Methane Emission Heat Mapping** – We integrated high-altitude spectrometry data into our models to track unexpected methane surges—crucial for addressing high-impact, short-term warming threats. 4. **Ocean Current Disruption Modelling** – Our team ran high-resolution simulations on Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) stability. The data suggests accelerating shifts, which could impact weather patterns and food security on a massive scale. 5. **AI-Driven Wildfire Forecasting** – We deployed a neural network to predict wildfire spread based on wind shear, fuel availability, and atmospheric moisture. This tool can help first responders allocate resources with pinpoint accuracy. These advances are driving real-time decision-making that affects lives, economies, and infrastructure. If you’re interested in discussing potential synergies with your AI, satellite, or energy initiatives, I’d be happy to connect. Best, [Your Name] Senior Climate Modeler NOAA Edit 2: hahahaha, I tested it for my own job and it made up an amazing amount of bullshit, but it's the kind of stuff I *might* do at work. I mean, I didn't, but that is beside the point. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45019 Posts
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micronesia
United States24740 Posts
I am curious to see where each department will fall out on this. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45019 Posts
On February 23 2025 22:39 micronesia wrote: He actually threatened that failure to comply with the bonkers request would be considered "resignation." I am curious to see where each department will fall out on this. I guess we'll find out within the next 2 days! | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1082 Posts
On February 23 2025 03:12 oBlade wrote: Every time you talk about me instead of addressing a subject, Trump issues another executive order. Egg prices are high because supply is low. When supply decreases and demand is the same, the supply and demand curves intersect at a higher price. Supply is low because of bird flu outbreaks which have had both birds dying and USDA culling millions of hens since the lame duck period of the Biden administration. Some of that is related to factory farming practices in the US, others is randomness, which is why most countries now are still enjoying normal egg prices, not because of the particular egg policy of this administration or their unwillingness to have a socialized program to conjure tens of millions of uninfected egglaying birds into existence. As far as I know. No eggprices are high because the few companies that have a choke hold on the marked (like Cal-Maine) do kill off production that can't take their lowball prices anymore. Farmers go out of business because they relied on the big distributors being fair. They are not. If you can't meet their prices, you are done. Less Farmers mean less supply, means that the selling price can rise up. A "small farmer" can't move his tens of thousands of eggs a month. Big chains won't buy them without a fall guy for quality control, which is cal-maine. Creating a competitor is impossible, because the big players will snuff you out instantly by "oh look eggs now super cheap... better not be starting a business that relied on high prices!" To ensure the market is regulating itself via "supply and demand" you'd need to trust bust the likes Wal-Mart and Cal-Maine. Something conservatives DID UNDERSTAND 100 years ago. Now they don't. The conservative policy is to aid the Robber Barons. If you are rich enough, egg prices don't matter to you. You want a business climate of robber barrons that could dictate both ends of the price, to the producers.. and the customers. German businespeople carbon copy EVERYTHING that happens in the US. Now our eggs are getting expensive. The narrative is beginning to spread from commodity brokers to Farmer's organisations.. to conservative media... and once it's in people's heads.. they will pay any price at the super markets.. of which 99% are owned by private equity mega wealthy families. It's total and utter bullshit and made up, but the pandemic woke up everybody. If you can create scarcity in peoples heads, they WILL BUY $20 eggs. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23458 Posts
On February 23 2025 22:39 micronesia wrote: He actually threatened that failure to comply with the bonkers request would be considered "resignation." I am curious to see where each department will fall out on this. LibHorizons: Feels like an obviously empty threat that all managers should be telling workers to ignore. Can't imagine the rationale for being complicit, other than being a Trump supporter. You wouldn't do it just because your boss told you to would you? | ||
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micronesia
United States24740 Posts
On February 24 2025 01:12 GreenHorizons wrote: LibHorizons: Feels like an obviously empty threat that all managers should be telling workers to ignore. Can't imagine the rationale for being complicit, other than being a Trump supporter. You wouldn't do it just because your boss told you to would you? I didn't even get this opm e-mail so it's currently a moot point, but... You are asking if I would refuse to follow a legal order (i.e., send a bulleted list of accomplishments to opm) from my actual chain of command because of the ramifications of it? Probably not. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23458 Posts
On February 24 2025 01:14 micronesia wrote: I didn't even get this opm e-mail so it's currently a moot point, but... You are asking if I would refuse to follow a legal order (i.e., send a bulleted list of accomplishments to opm) from my actual chain of command because of the ramifications of it? Probably not. LibHorizons: In that case, I'd imagine most people/departments will end up being complicit. Why wouldn't they? | ||
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micronesia
United States24740 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18112 Posts
On February 24 2025 01:24 GreenHorizons wrote: LibHorizons: In that case, I'd imagine most people/departments will end up being complicit. Why wouldn't they? Do some nonsense paperwork is kinda the standard for most jobs. Government or not. There being some new nonsense paperwork to comply with is not unusual. What is unusual is that this does not come down the normal channels and has the threat of "resignation" for non-compliance. If my boss asks me for bullshit paperwork, and I don't comply, he'll remind me. If it's some kinda shithole organization where the bureaucracy is more important than the actual work, he will then tell me that if I don't do it promptly he will have no choice but to fire me, at which point I will do the nonsense paperwork or get fired. But there's a hierarchy for this kinda bullshit and some random email from some other department is not the way it works. Now, if you're saying that makes you complicit with the fascist government, well, obviously. Doing anything other than quitting is making government workers complicit with the fascist government. But sending bullshit paperwork up the food chain makes you no more or less complicit than just going about the usual day-to-day of your government job in the fascist regime. | ||
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oBlade
United States5765 Posts
Anyone who has worked for a private company and written a daily or week log understands this isn't a request to show you cracked Fermat's theorem every week, it weeds out people who can't even lie about doing work and encourages a culture of thinking about what work you're really doing. People aren't as self-starters as they think, like "of course I'm doing the best I can," but when you actually organize it, it weeds out the self-delusion if you have to write something that goes by a superior's eyes. | ||
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micronesia
United States24740 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45019 Posts
On February 24 2025 02:28 oBlade wrote: DOD and intel are allegedly not under OPM whereas the email was blanket sent to everyone. 5 bullet points a week averages one a day. The leader of DOGE says it should take 5 minutes. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1893507929493643451 Anyone who has worked for a private company and written a daily or week log understands this isn't a request to show you cracked Fermat's theorem every week, it weeds out people who can't even lie about doing work and encourages a culture of thinking about what work you're really doing. People aren't as self-starters as they think, like "of course I'm doing the best I can," but when you actually organize it, it weeds out the self-delusion if you have to write something that goes by a superior's eyes. It doesn't do any of that. The only things Musk's ultimatum does are imply that no federal workers currently have any accountability, that no supervisors are currently checking in with their workers, and that no federal workers or supervisors have any idea how to do or explain the jobs that they've already been doing and explaining. It's unnecessary, redundant, and frankly disrespectful posturing, nothing more. If employees aren't doing their jobs, then their supervisors need to fix that or fire them. If supervisors aren't checking in with their employees, then the higher-ups need to fix that or fire them. This isn't that hard, and why the heck is the Republican Party Of Small Government creating more (fake) agencies and more (fake) government oversight in the first place? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21950 Posts
On February 24 2025 02:28 oBlade wrote: I love how you had to remove all context in order to even begin to defend this.DOD and intel are allegedly not under OPM whereas the email was blanket sent to everyone. 5 bullet points a week averages one a day. The leader of DOGE says it should take 5 minutes. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1893507929493643451 Anyone who has worked for a private company and written a daily or week log understands this isn't a request to show you cracked Fermat's theorem every week, it weeds out people who can't even lie about doing work and encourages a culture of thinking about what work you're really doing. People aren't as self-starters as they think, like "of course I'm doing the best I can," but when you actually organize it, it weeds out the self-delusion if you have to write something that goes by a superior's eyes. This isn't Bob and Bob having performance interviews with employees and asking them what they do in a week, this is a mail to 19 million people that no one is actually going to read because your not checking 19 million diverse responses. | ||
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