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Legan
Finland578 Posts
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KT_Elwood
Germany1151 Posts
Denmark won't have opposed more USAF bases there if asked kindly. Trump really is a person who needs to get things by force, even if he already had them for free. Does he still need to proof his worth to daddy? | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On January 28 2025 16:28 Legan wrote: What will cause the first big protest wave? Georgia and Slovakia are much smaller countries so protest are easier to organize, but one could assume that USA doesn't need a person of color to die publicly before they start protesting. I dont think we'll see any real protesting until the government starts up some death camps tbh, and even then it'll most probably wind up just like all of the other ones, nothing changes, the people responsible wait it out. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9859 Posts
Who would have thought pardoning masses of people without finding out anything about who they are could have gone so badly wrong? RENSSELAER, Ind. (AP) — An Indiana man was fatally shot by a deputy during a traffic stop just days after he was pardoned by President Donald Trump for a misdemeanor related to the 2021 U.S. Capitol riot. Matthew Huttle, 42, of Hobart was killed Sunday by a Jasper County sheriff’s deputy, authorities said. State police are investigating. They said the deputy tried to arrest Huttle when “an altercation took place between the suspect and the officer, which resulted in the officer firing his weapon and fatally wounding the suspect. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14140 Posts
On January 28 2025 12:33 Magic Powers wrote: More like making sure people know they're not perfect. I know perfectly well that I'm not perfect and I'm aware of plenty of my mistakes without people like BJ rubbing it in my face for very odd reasons and awkwardly asking for a 'thank you' afterwards. Does BJ know that he's also not perfect? I don't get the impression that he does. Haven't seen him admit to anything literally in years. Guy can't help but try to justify his behavior like he's doing us a service. "Narrow objections" my ass just refuses to argue in good faith with anyone only giving a shit about the points he thinks he can score to own the libs. Dude still trying to convince people out here his anti Vax stance is purely about transmission, never being able to reggognize any other use for them, nor for any other case of them being mandated. Trump casually taking control over government spending by suspending all aid and grants at 5pm today. The constitution defender folks. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14140 Posts
On January 28 2025 16:28 Legan wrote: What will cause the first big protest wave? Georgia and Slovakia are much smaller countries so protest are easier to organize, but one could assume that USA doesn't need a person of color to die publicly before they start protesting. Who's going to protest? Hispanics and muslims went big for Trump, people like gh materially arguing about how he would be better for these people. A black woman was literally on the ballot and these groups shat on her historically. At some point you need to recognize that this is what they wanted. | ||
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oBlade
United States6200 Posts
On January 28 2025 22:20 Jockmcplop wrote: https://apnews.com/article/indiana-man-killed-trump-pardon-matthew-huttle-8c674e76c8e3c5ef1610ed29d0669050 Who would have thought pardoning masses of people without finding out anything about who they are could have gone so badly wrong? This guy who was on supervised release (out of prison) for a misdemeanor conviction wouldn't have been shot by a policeman in a traffic stop that hasn't been investigated yet if Blumpfgh hadn't pardoned him? | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
Also im hearing of tariffs on TSMC. Why? | ||
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Luolis
Finland7176 Posts
Economy crash speedrun. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22412 Posts
On January 28 2025 23:50 Sadist wrote: Thats what happens when 'you' elect someone that doesn't give a shit about the long term future of the country.I just dont understand the point of aleniating ourselves from our allies. The threats on Canada and Greenland in public will hurt our soft power long term. Also im hearing of tariffs on TSMC. Why? Why would Trump care about soft power? he just wanted the court cases against him to go away and to line his own pockets. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46023 Posts
On January 29 2025 00:10 Luolis wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c77rdy6gzy5o Economy crash speedrun. I know very little about this topic, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this supposed to be Congressional/legislative jurisdiction? Or does the executive branch actually have the authority to do what Trump is doing? | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24014 Posts
On January 28 2025 22:56 Sermokala wrote: Who's going to protest? Hispanics and muslims went big for Trump, people like gh materially arguing about how he would be better for these people. A black woman was literally on the ballot and these groups shat on her historically. At some point you need to recognize that this is what they wanted. People of conscience (Democrats will probably tell them to stop and help crackdown on them like the campus protests). Hispanics and Muslims didn't go "big for Trump". I certainly didn't argue Trump would be better for them. Turns out there's more to identity politics than the hollow version Democrats coopted. That said, Trump lost Hispanic, Muslim, and Black people. If the country recognized what those groups wanted, Trump would never have been president. The only majority Trump got was with white people, including white women. I feel like if you said "at some point you have to recognize this is what they wanted" about women losing their bodily autonomy it would be more obviously stupid to more people than the clearly bigoted slop you just posted. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4762 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24014 Posts
On January 29 2025 00:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I know very little about this topic, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this supposed to be Congressional/legislative jurisdiction? Or does the executive branch actually have the authority to do what Trump is doing? You're going to start noticing a pattern. 1. Trump is going to talk about/sign these orders and take various actions. 2. What he/his staff says frequently won't quite match the text of what he signs or how it is implemented. 3. It will be of uncertain legality/jurisdiction (or blatantly illegal) with dubious execution. + Show Spoiler + (some of it will just powers people didn't realize the president/Republicans had) 4. Some people in both parties will follow it/collaborate anyway 5. Some people will challenge it legally (some pausing implementation pending adjudication, others not). 6. Trump's Supreme Court will mostly side with Trump. 7. Back to #1 because Trump will keep pushing it until enough people draw the line that basically everyone "on the left" here petulantly refuses to draw. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14140 Posts
On January 29 2025 00:56 GreenHorizons wrote: People of conscience (Democrats will probably tell them to stop and help crackdown on them like the campus protests). Hispanics and Muslims didn't go "big for Trump". I certainly didn't argue Trump would be better for them. Turns out there's more to identity politics than the hollow version Democrats coopted. That said, Trump lost Hispanic, Muslim, and Black people. If the country recognized what those groups wanted, Trump would never have been president. The only majority Trump got was with white people, including white women. I feel like if you said "at some point you have to recognize this is what they wanted" about women losing their bodily autonomy it would be more obviously stupid to more people than the clearly bigoted slop you just posted. Lol so no structure no leadership no goals, no demands, and no hope protests that people will lose intrest in quickly. If these "people of conscience" really existed they would have followed the very basic instructions in order to prevent this. Instead, we see people like you who spend all their time and energy enabling this outcome before washing your hands of the consequences. You would be right if I said that about women, but ignoring the will of the people and constantly ignoring the agency of those groups actions is more bigoted than saying only white people have the capacity for racism. Trump made big inroads with those groups, and we saw a lot of leaders that advocated for trump and told people they couldn't vote for the black woman to be welcome. You may not like the reality you live in GH but one of these days you're going to have to come to terms with you living here. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14140 Posts
On January 29 2025 00:10 Luolis wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c77rdy6gzy5o Economy crash speedrun. Aparently the medicaid portal to get money to pay for tens of millions of people's healthcare is down. I don't know if its just timing or intended but yikes. A lot of these programs will just shut down in days if they can't make payroll. Trump is trying to roll back exactly what it just did but it looks like the entire system is breaking down. It hasn't even been a week and You know Trump spent a day at least golfing. | ||
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Yurie
12095 Posts
On January 29 2025 00:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I know very little about this topic, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this supposed to be Congressional/legislative jurisdiction? Or does the executive branch actually have the authority to do what Trump is doing? The US never actually removes a sitting president before the term is up. So they can do whatever they want and the only limitation is if people carry out what they order or not. Sometimes other parts of the government stops the president, most of the time they go along with him. Or you end up in the alternative of it going to court because the congress and senate is so dysfunctional they are largely irrelevant outside of stopping budgets now and then. Then we hit GH route of a stacked court. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2811 Posts
On January 29 2025 06:14 BlackJack wrote: Something we know for sure is that many of the people that were saying Biden should have the authority to erase hundreds of billions of dollars in student loan debt with the flick of his pen will be frantically arguing that the President has too much power, and the people that were arguing Biden didn't have that authority will be arguing Trump should be able to carry out his agenda through executive order. And not one of them are listening on the tiny majority that just wants politics to follow both the letter and the intent of the law. Political overreach is such a pain and the problem is it's pretty hard to contain because a) voters typically don't give a shit and politicians know this and b) any watchdog you put in with enough power to actually stop overreach (like some type of court or otherwise independent empowered entity) can also be dicks about it. | ||
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Yurie
12095 Posts
On January 29 2025 06:14 BlackJack wrote: Something we know for sure is that many of the people that were saying Biden should have the authority to erase hundreds of billions of dollars in student loan debt with the flick of his pen will be frantically arguing that the President has too much power, and the people that were arguing Biden didn't have that authority will be arguing Trump should be able to carry out his agenda through executive order. I think neither should have that power. Biden used it better from my point of view but having a system where one person and ideally that persons team decides what happens is not stable. Congress needs to become functional again and claw some power back. | ||
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