US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4721

On January 27 2025 04:07 Magic Powers wrote:


Feel free to quote the part.

On January 27 2025 06:49 Magic Powers wrote:


What conclusion exactly is faulty? If I state incorrectly that the 25% applies to an entire industry, and instead it applies to one company, nothing about the argument changes at its core.

"Their working paper, published this month and titled "A Discrimination Report Card," found that the typical employer called back the presumably white applicants around 9% more than Black ones. That number rose to roughly 24% for the worst offenders."

Heck, racism is solved because it's not the whole industry. Thank you BJ for correcting me on a fundamental falsehood. Wait, what? You consider racism debunked because of THIS?

On January 27 2025 10:44 Magic Powers wrote:


Yes, I do in fact acknowledge my mistakes. And no, I won't say thanks because you misrepresented the information with the 9% claim. I will say thanks if you acknowledge that your version was a misrepresentation of the findings.

On January 27 2025 05:39 Zambrah wrote:


Its worth always keeping in mind we have living people who were alive when segregation was a thing, Civil Rights was in the 60s, Joe Biden wouldve been around ~22 around that time, so not even just born, but born and very much cognizant of and raised within that extremely racist world.

On January 27 2025 20:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:


"2 or 3 orders of magnitude more"? Where did you come up with those numbers? New York (City only!*) and Quebec (the whole province!**) both have between 8 and 9 million people, making them comparable population sizes, so unless you're suggesting that the anti-Semitic percents of both are infinitesmal (which makes your whole point irrelevant if neither location really has much anti-Semitism at all), you're going to run into scaling problems pretty quickly with anything relating to "magnitudes". If 1% of New Yorkers dislike Jews (80,000 or so), then 100% (8,000,000 or so) or 1,000% (lol) of people living in Quebec dislike Jews o.O
*The entire state of New York has about 20 million people, which would make your claim even more preposterous.
**Quebec city has less than 1 million people, which would also make your claim even more preposterous.

On January 28 2025 01:09 korrekt wrote:


Though I do very much agree with your bottom line and I find it hard to believe the number given without any kind of evidence, it is technically possible to scale percentages by a magnitude of 2 or 3 orders even when talking about something like 90 % or even 99 %. In a statistical sense, percentages can not directly be scaled but have to be transformed into odds (i.e., 9 against 1 for 90 %). That number can then be scaled and retransformed into a percentage (27 against 1 for an order of magnitude of 3, which would be roughly 96.4 %).

Thanks to everyone btw for the many interesting to read discussions in this thread! I'm a long-term reader and got a lot of information and talking points out of it

On January 28 2025 01:17 KwarK wrote:
Trump started and then won a very public argument with the president of Colombia and his base are eating it up when the entire fucking thing should have been an email. Trump is essentially a guy picking a fight with strangers in a Waffle House, pulling a gun on them, then gloating when they back the fuck down. With MAGA being his dumb fucking white trash kids who are impressed by that shit. What they're missing is that all the other presidents were perfectly capable of getting what they want without making their counterparties publicly lose and that people don't like it when you make them publicly lose. And that people talk and that you don't want to be the lunatic pulling a gun in a Waffle House, nobody but his idiot kids respects that guy.

The US had an agreement to send migrants back to Colombia on regular flights. It seems that the Trump government unilaterally decided to start sending them on military flights without informing Colombia and promptly got turned around because they were in breach of their own agreement. After declaring that they were going to block Colombian exports to the US and revoke the visas of Colombian officials in the US Colombia backed down and the agreement was amended. They're focused on the Colombia backed down part which is wholly missing the point, winning a very public argument over petty bullshit is not a good result.

Every nation, whether they're an ally of the US or an adversary, is currently evaluating its exposure to having Trump pull a gun on them in the middle of a Waffle House over petty bullshit. They're concluding it'd be wise not to keep their reserves in US controlled banks, would be wise to diversify their trade away from the US, would be wise to reduce their dependence on US tech etc. because having an agreement with the US and following the terms of that agreement does not mean shit to Trump. Every foreign politician is considering the possibility that Trump may randomly demand that they eat shit in front of their electorate for no reason other than that he can and is working out how to reduce exposure to the US. He's going to burn through an inconceivable amount of soft power in the next four years.

On January 28 2025 02:29 maybenexttime wrote:

Next four years? You're being very charitable. At this rate, I'd give him a few months. And only because America's partners will be in denial for a while and it will take some time for the new reality to sink in.

On January 28 2025 02:29 maybenexttime wrote:

Next four years? You're being very charitable. At this rate, I'd give him a few months. And only because America's partners will be in denial for a while and it will take some time for the new reality to sink in.

On January 28 2025 02:39 Yurie wrote:


I think the major test is if US institutions hold up when he leaves office in 4 years. And who replaces him as president. If it is a Trump clone then a lot of people will give up on the US and start treating it like China. A country you trade with but don't trust any longer.