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Mohdoo
United States15714 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10196 Posts
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On November 06 2024 03:50 Mohdoo wrote: Guys we're all like 35+ at this point and all of these weird straw mans and whatnot should be way more obvious to you. You've all been in this thread for like 15 years. Someone flying in and making a bunch of bad faith arguments and disrupting the thread every 2 years is just business as usual. They are not well-intended. Its literally the same every time. Okay, I'll leave. Enjoy bullying the stragglers who walk in because you disagree with them, gaslighting them that THEY are in bad faith simply because you disagree with them. You're absolutely rotten | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4315 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:01 TentativePanda wrote: Okay, I'll leave. Enjoy bullying the stragglers who walk in because you disagree with them, gaslighting them that THEY are in bad faith simply because you disagree with them. You're absolutely rotten That's not a nice thing to say, but good day to you sir. Please vote Harris and bring a towel to clean up your vomit afterwards. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:01 TentativePanda wrote: Okay, I'll leave. Enjoy bullying the stragglers who walk in because you disagree with them, gaslighting them that THEY are in bad faith simply because you disagree with them. You're absolutely rotten People aren't bullying you by asking you to substantiate your claims and opinions. If you don't have the energy to do more than just drop in and do a drive-by post, that doesn't make people bullies when they have a few questions. Bye though! | ||
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farvacola
United States18832 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:01 TentativePanda wrote: Okay, I'll leave. Enjoy bullying the stragglers who walk in because you disagree with them, gaslighting them that THEY are in bad faith simply because you disagree with them. You're absolutely rotten I hear the weather on Mohdoo island is quite nice this time of year. For what it’s worth, you earlier asked for specifics regarding who Trump has threatened. He wants to be able to fire at will government employees like myself who don’t do what he wants. That makes it a particularly easy call on my part. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44605 Posts
On November 06 2024 03:50 FlaShFTW wrote: Pre-polls closing news: It looks like turnout is going to be very strong this election, notably in swing states like PA and MI so far. Iowa's early vote also showing some very strong early vote, as well as women +10 over men in that department (55-45), which actually is very on par with Selzer's poll. Things to come, but so far things are looking reasonably good for Democrats. Way too early to call anything though, but these are my early findings. Still a long way to go before polls close. Stay tuned. I plan to go live on Twitch around 7:30pm ET if anyone is going to be following. Given that a strong voter turnout might not be the Democratic advantage that it once was, one of the only data points I'm letting even partially influence my prediction is if significantly more women vote than men in the swing states, since sex does seem to be pretty decently correlated with preference for a candidate (most women = Harris, most men = Trump). | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25676 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:01 TentativePanda wrote: Okay, I'll leave. Enjoy bullying the stragglers who walk in because you disagree with them, gaslighting them that THEY are in bad faith simply because you disagree with them. You're absolutely rotten Alternatively idk you could make some coherent points? Like you sauntered in, I didn’t even really understand what your overarching point was other than ‘people are mean to Trump’ and fucked off immediately after with a bit of pushback. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4315 Posts
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/harris-says-she-will-do-everything-in-her-power-to-stop-war-in-gaza-223458373618 | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10196 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Given that a strong voter turnout might not be the Democratic advantage that it once was, one of the only data points I'm letting even partially influence my prediction is if significantly more women vote than men in the swing states, since sex does seem to be pretty decently correlated with preference for a candidate (most women = Harris, most men = Trump). This is true, the turnout favoring dems has diminished in recent times, but it really comes down to an enthusiasm concept where we just need to see which side is coming out with more enthusiasm to the polls. My hunch is that Dems are quite energetic especially with a youthful and exuberant candidate who has done wonders for her image this cycle, along with what appears to be America's uncle in Walz. Again, time will tell and I can't wait to see the first results come out. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44605 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:01 TentativePanda wrote: Okay, I'll leave. Enjoy bullying the stragglers who walk in because you disagree with them, gaslighting them that THEY are in bad faith simply because you disagree with them. You're absolutely rotten Most people here aren't asking you to leave; we're just asking you to justify why you voted for Stein, why you think Trump's first and potentially second presidency aren't big deals, and why you think Trump is a decent man who is being treated unfairly by Democrats. These are all statements and opinions that you offered, unprompted. | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:07 WombaT wrote: Alternatively idk you could make some coherent points? Like you sauntered in, I didn’t even really understand what your overarching point was other than ‘people are mean to Trump’ and fucked off immediately after with a bit of pushback. Actually, this (below) is what I sauntered in with. The fact we are at the point y'all upset me enough to leave is no mystery - you guys are actually bullies. I should have stuck to my word and done a better job tuning out politics for the day while emotions are heightened ------------------------------------------------------ Voted for Stein in PA this morning. Very simple message for y'all. People can vote for who they want, and have their own theory of change that's different from yours. To both sides, it's not the end of the world regardless of the outcome. Turning off all news for the day and doing some work now <3 | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44605 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:08 Magic Powers wrote: Apparently yesterday Kamala Harris stated very clearly that she's going to do everything she can to end the war in Gaza. Why didn't she say this much sooner? I'm so confused. Well, lets hope it'll change someone's mind. https://www.nbcnews.com/video/harris-says-she-will-do-everything-in-her-power-to-stop-war-in-gaza-223458373618 She's said that before too. Then Republicans responded with nonsense like "Why don't you end the war right now, since you're vice president!?" | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:06 farvacola wrote: I hear the weather on Mohdoo island is quite nice this time of year. For what it’s worth, you earlier asked for specifics regarding who Trump has threatened. He wants to be able to fire at will government employees like myself who don’t do what he wants. That makes it a particularly easy call on my part. That part of P25 will probably have a knock-on effect on my employment as well, since the majority of my company's work is either as a prime or sub-contractor for government orgs right now. I could lose my job because we work for talented people who don't want to just be yes-people for Trump and we lose a large chunk of our business. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
On November 06 2024 03:56 FlaShFTW wrote: Imagine talking about policy the day of the election. The only real thing to do today is doom scroll and wait for my way too overly confidence but still somehow correct early calls on states before the mainstream media makes their calls. Looking forward to it. Godspeed. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10196 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:11 TentativePanda wrote: Actually, this (below) is what I sauntered in with. The fact we are at the point y'all upset me enough to leave is no mystery - you guys are actually bullies. I should have stuck to my word and done a better job tuning out politics for the day while emotions are heightened ------------------------------------------------------ Voted for Stein in PA this morning. Very simple message for y'all. People can vote for who they want, and have their own theory of change that's different from yours. To both sides, it's not the end of the world regardless of the outcome. Turning off all news for the day and doing some work now <3 You sure showed us! | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Most people here aren't asking you to leave; we're just asking you to justify why you voted for Stein, why you think Trump's first and potentially second presidency aren't big deals, and why you think Trump is a decent man who is being treated unfairly by Democrats. These are all statements and opinions that you offered, unprompted. I believe I did address a lot of those points. I did not address one, which you unburied from months ago, for many reasons. I did not write a long essay, but I definitely engaged in some explaining, and it's fine if I am disagreed with. I don't agree that y'all getting nasty toward me and deciding I'm arguing in bad faith when I'm not was warranted in either case. Honestly was a little hurtful because I was arguing in GOOD faith. Goodbye, I won't be back and I hope others don't stumble across this wasteland of aggressive and combatant bullies | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4315 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: She's said that before too. Then Republicans responded with nonsense like "Why don't you end the war right now, since you're vice president!?" If she said it before, then why hasn't Biden done something yet? He hasn't made true on his most recent threat regarding aid trucks. Israel has failed to deliver and Biden is silent. Harris also appears to be silent. I'm confused. When was the first or last time Harris said she's going to do her best to end the war? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44605 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:19 TentativePanda wrote: I believe I did address a lot of those points. I did not address one, which you unburied from months ago, for many reasons. I did not write a long essay, but I definitely engaged in some explaining, and it's fine if I am disagreed with. I don't agree that y'all getting nasty toward me and deciding I'm arguing in bad faith when I'm not was warranted in either case. Honestly was a little hurtful because I was arguing in GOOD faith. Goodbye, I won't be back and I hope others don't stumble across this wasteland of aggressive and combatant bullies GH unburied it, not me. But I wish you well, despite our political disagreements. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44605 Posts
On November 06 2024 04:19 Magic Powers wrote: If she said it before, then why hasn't Biden done something yet? He hasn't made true on his most recent threat regarding aid trucks. Israel has failed to deliver and Biden is silent. Harris also appears to be silent. I'm confused. When was the first or last time Harris said she's going to do her best to end the war? That's a non sequitur. Just because Kamala Harris says something doesn't mean Joe Biden is going to do something. | ||
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