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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44158 Posts
August 12 2024 03:16 GMT
#86821
JD Vance may have dressed in drag during his time at Yale, at a Halloween party, further complicating the Trump/Vance/Republican message that people in drag are terrible and pedophiles and groomers:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jd-vance-campaign-won-t-221322633.html

And, of course, because the couch-sex meme won't die, people are referring to JD Vance as Sofa Loren, connecting his drag picture to Sophia Loren.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-12 04:28:55
August 12 2024 04:26 GMT
#86822
On August 12 2024 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
JD Vance may have dressed in drag during his time at Yale, at a Halloween party, further complicating the Trump/Vance/Republican message that people in drag are terrible and pedophiles and groomers:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jd-vance-campaign-won-t-221322633.html

And, of course, because the couch-sex meme won't die, people are referring to JD Vance as Sofa Loren, connecting his drag picture to Sophia Loren.

Welcome to the stage... Sofa Loren!

Again, just like his military service, I think being someone who does drag is great. What's weird is they way the Republicans try to come after people who do drag or serve in the military.

Also, apropos of nothing, just want to remind folks that during the Republican National Convention, Grindr usage spiked in the area. Just a fun fact. Not a weird fact.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44158 Posts
August 12 2024 05:29 GMT
#86823
On August 12 2024 13:26 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2024 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
JD Vance may have dressed in drag during his time at Yale, at a Halloween party, further complicating the Trump/Vance/Republican message that people in drag are terrible and pedophiles and groomers:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jd-vance-campaign-won-t-221322633.html

And, of course, because the couch-sex meme won't die, people are referring to JD Vance as Sofa Loren, connecting his drag picture to Sophia Loren.

Welcome to the stage... Sofa Loren!

Again, just like his military service, I think being someone who does drag is great. What's weird is they way the Republicans try to come after people who do drag or serve in the military.

Also, apropos of nothing, just want to remind folks that during the Republican National Convention, Grindr usage spiked in the area. Just a fun fact. Not a weird fact.


It is definitely also weird how pro-military, yet anti-veteran, conservative leaders are. There are probably some nice parallels between that inconsistency and their puzzling contradiction of being pro-birth, yet anti-baby and anti-child and anti-parents, in terms of medical care and education and quality of life.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany903 Posts
August 12 2024 05:41 GMT
#86824
On August 10 2024 00:51 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:


Cue the rape victims of Donald Trump, etc.


"Trump beauty pageant"
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom918 Posts
August 12 2024 07:29 GMT
#86825
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8xlj48pl42o

Playing the music from Titanic at a political rally is a pretty weird thing to do...
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1050 Posts
August 12 2024 08:35 GMT
#86826
On August 12 2024 13:26 NewSunshine wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 12 2024 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
JD Vance may have dressed in drag during his time at Yale, at a Halloween party, further complicating the Trump/Vance/Republican message that people in drag are terrible and pedophiles and groomers:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jd-vance-campaign-won-t-221322633.html

And, of course, because the couch-sex meme won't die, people are referring to JD Vance as Sofa Loren, connecting his drag picture to Sophia Loren.

Welcome to the stage... Sofa Loren!

Again, just like his military service, I think being someone who does drag is great. What's weird is they way the Republicans try to come after people who do drag or serve in the military.


Also, apropos of nothing, just want to remind folks that during the Republican National Convention, Grindr usage spiked in the area. Just a fun fact. Not a weird fact.

A suspicious rise in gay activity during republican conventions has been known and documented for decades. Not weird at all. Relevant Onion skit:
+ Show Spoiler +
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10670 Posts
August 12 2024 09:44 GMT
#86827
On August 12 2024 16:29 MJG wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8xlj48pl42o

Playing the music from Titanic at a political rally is a pretty weird thing to do...


After they realized a while ago that Rage against the machine was political, they ran out of options.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44158 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-12 12:34:24
August 12 2024 12:31 GMT
#86828
Elon Musk and Donald Trump interview tonight.

If Trump officially returns to Twitter, then Truth Social will officially be another failed business scheme of his (if it isn't already).
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
August 12 2024 13:37 GMT
#86829
On August 12 2024 18:44 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2024 16:29 MJG wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8xlj48pl42o

Playing the music from Titanic at a political rally is a pretty weird thing to do...


After they realized a while ago that Rage against the machine was political, they ran out of options.

They sure were feeling that lack of options during the RNC. One speaker decided on Smash Mouth's All Star, and walked off stage to the words "I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed".

As Day9 used to say about StarCraft plays that fell on their face, it was the anti-timing.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17959 Posts
August 12 2024 14:32 GMT
#86830
On August 12 2024 22:37 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2024 18:44 Velr wrote:
On August 12 2024 16:29 MJG wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8xlj48pl42o

Playing the music from Titanic at a political rally is a pretty weird thing to do...


After they realized a while ago that Rage against the machine was political, they ran out of options.

They sure were feeling that lack of options during the RNC. One speaker decided on Smash Mouth's All Star, and walked off stage to the words "I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed".

As Day9 used to say about StarCraft plays that fell on their face, it was the anti-timing.

Or maybe, that speaker just isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. That shed is, after all, filled with the likes of Sarah Palin, Rick Perry and Kristi Noem. I don't doubt there's plenty more blunt tools in there.
mcxds
Profile Joined September 2018
Germany19 Posts
August 12 2024 15:17 GMT
#86831
On August 12 2024 21:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
If Trump officially returns to Twitter, then Truth Social will officially be another failed business scheme of his (if it isn't already).

There is a very interesting article about this scheme in the New York Magazine. The author argues that although it is an absolute failure from a business perspective, it is a means for people to directly funnel money to Donald Trump and thereby influence his politics. And from that perspective it is Trump's most successful project to date.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5510 Posts
August 12 2024 15:33 GMT
#86832
On August 12 2024 17:35 r00ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2024 13:26 NewSunshine wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 12 2024 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
JD Vance may have dressed in drag during his time at Yale, at a Halloween party, further complicating the Trump/Vance/Republican message that people in drag are terrible and pedophiles and groomers:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jd-vance-campaign-won-t-221322633.html

And, of course, because the couch-sex meme won't die, people are referring to JD Vance as Sofa Loren, connecting his drag picture to Sophia Loren.

Welcome to the stage... Sofa Loren!

Again, just like his military service, I think being someone who does drag is great. What's weird is they way the Republicans try to come after people who do drag or serve in the military.


Also, apropos of nothing, just want to remind folks that during the Republican National Convention, Grindr usage spiked in the area. Just a fun fact. Not a weird fact.

A suspicious rise in gay activity during republican conventions has been known and documented for decades. Not weird at all. Relevant Onion skit:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=simV1ZXFsxI

Anytime you concentrate a large number of people someplace, the amount of gay people will increase, but that's no cause for casual homophobia.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom918 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-12 15:57:20
August 12 2024 15:57 GMT
#86833
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2lmm2wwlyo

Claiming that a crowd is faked when it's easily verifiable as real is a pretty weird thing to do...
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
August 12 2024 16:03 GMT
#86834
On August 13 2024 00:33 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2024 17:35 r00ty wrote:
On August 12 2024 13:26 NewSunshine wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 12 2024 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
JD Vance may have dressed in drag during his time at Yale, at a Halloween party, further complicating the Trump/Vance/Republican message that people in drag are terrible and pedophiles and groomers:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jd-vance-campaign-won-t-221322633.html

And, of course, because the couch-sex meme won't die, people are referring to JD Vance as Sofa Loren, connecting his drag picture to Sophia Loren.

Welcome to the stage... Sofa Loren!

Again, just like his military service, I think being someone who does drag is great. What's weird is they way the Republicans try to come after people who do drag or serve in the military.


Also, apropos of nothing, just want to remind folks that during the Republican National Convention, Grindr usage spiked in the area. Just a fun fact. Not a weird fact.

A suspicious rise in gay activity during republican conventions has been known and documented for decades. Not weird at all. Relevant Onion skit:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=simV1ZXFsxI

Anytime you concentrate a large number of people someplace, the amount of gay people will increase, but that's no cause for casual homophobia.

I just think it's interesting, because the large number of people that collected to Milwaukee were mostly conservatives, and last I checked, they're still trying to outlaw being homosexual. It's interesting when you read between the lines.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3392 Posts
August 12 2024 16:04 GMT
#86835
On August 12 2024 02:40 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2024 02:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 12 2024 02:12 oBlade wrote:
The interview you linked doesn't cite him saying it multiple times or even a second time, it just references the original speech he gave in 2021 and the guy directly asking him about it. Pretty easy to take on face value that wasn't a policy proposal for a 2024 presidential campaign. Or if you can't find an actual second time he said it, name a second Republican politician who has "proposed" it since it's something "they" want to get away with.

Because lowering the voting age, which he said he was responding to, is definitely a topic that has been brought up before. What side brings it up? The Democrats. Why? On the assumption that high schoolers need to be civically engaged, or that young people skew Democrat in their votes. So if you want to go down this road, even though it's not in any Republican platform and would require a Constitutional amendment just like lowering to 16 would, can you at least show us that there are more Republican families than Democratic families? Or more Republican parents than Democratic parents? Or more children of Republicans than children of Democrats? Since this is a rig the vote conspiracy we should be able to support it somehow.


Giving more Americans one vote isn't undemocratic.
Giving some Americans more than one vote while others only get one vote is undemocratic.

That's the difference.

No taxation without representation eh?

Labour are proposing a drop over here for the same base reason (well, ostensibly).

Now, one can concede that it’s likely to favour them, or parties on a similar part of the spectrum.

But on the other hand it’s difficult to argue that if you’re of working age, possibly working full-time, paying taxes that you should be excluded from voting.

Think 16 year olds are dumbasses? Well plenty of the rest of the electorate are too, good luck if you open that Pandora’s box.

Aside from the 58 other things ridiculous about it, Vance’s proposal makes children simultaneously be ‘enfranchised’ by giving their parents extra weighing in the democratic process. Well here’s a thought experiment that anyone who’s spent more than 2.3 seconds on the topic has doubtless considered. Children don’t always agree with their parents politically!

How does this work with absentee parents, or split family units too?
Do you have to sort the extra votes in the settlement?

It’s such a profoundly brain dead idea it gives Trump some real stern competition. It may be dumber than most things Trump has said as he’s always just preaching to the converted, Vance has actually thought about this, and furthermore thought it was a good idea!

I’d say the mind boggles, but I mean this is just par for the course these days

Good post, and a reminder that even on the household level, people rarely agree and argue about the dumbest things. How many times can you count kids arguing with their parents (or young men secretly wanting to kill their dads)? If you thought people living in the same house can't even agree on just a few issues, wait until you take a look at all the people living in the same country and examine many more issues on the national level. Those disagreements are going to multiply manyfold in a working democracy.

Which is why it's always funny seeing North Korean ONE HUNDO percent bullshit numbers coming out of rigged elections, something Russia and China ccp is guilty of. Who do they think they're fooling? Kremlin may be a little more subtle about it and at least give the opposition/absentees 3%, sometimes even up to 9% (which is pretty generous for a dictatorship), but Putin getting +91% in rigged elections, referendums, or whatever the fuck, is still what I would consider to be "North Korean bullshit numbers." Get the fuck outta here with that shit.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21621 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-12 16:40:00
August 12 2024 16:39 GMT
#86836
On August 13 2024 00:17 mcxds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2024 21:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
If Trump officially returns to Twitter, then Truth Social will officially be another failed business scheme of his (if it isn't already).

There is a very interesting article about this scheme in the New York Magazine. The author argues that although it is an absolute failure from a business perspective, it is a means for people to directly funnel money to Donald Trump and thereby influence his politics. And from that perspective it is Trump's most successful project to date.
Former president Donald Trump’s social media company Trump Media reported a $16.4 million loss and less than $1 million of quarterly revenue
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/08/09/trump-media-loss-quarter/

Its an absolute colossal failure and a money pit. All Trump hopes for is that it lasts just long enough for him to be allowed to sell his shares and leave someone else with the odorous pile of excrement.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4729 Posts
August 12 2024 16:44 GMT
#86837
It's rare, but it can happen. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any unfavorability towards Lance Armstrong for example. Although with all the fake moon landing conspiracy people and flat earhters around it might actually be a tad surprising. Damn.
Taxes are for Terrans
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42499 Posts
August 12 2024 16:48 GMT
#86838
On August 13 2024 01:44 Uldridge wrote:
It's rare, but it can happen. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any unfavorability towards Lance Armstrong for example. Although with all the fake moon landing conspiracy people and flat earhters around it might actually be a tad surprising. Damn.

Lance Armstrong was the cyclist. I think you’re thinking of Neil Young.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44158 Posts
August 12 2024 16:52 GMT
#86839
On August 13 2024 01:48 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2024 01:44 Uldridge wrote:
It's rare, but it can happen. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any unfavorability towards Lance Armstrong for example. Although with all the fake moon landing conspiracy people and flat earhters around it might actually be a tad surprising. Damn.

Lance Armstrong was the cyclist. I think you’re thinking of Neil Young.


I think you both mean Buzz Lightyear.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
August 12 2024 17:01 GMT
#86840
On August 13 2024 01:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2024 01:48 KwarK wrote:
On August 13 2024 01:44 Uldridge wrote:
It's rare, but it can happen. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any unfavorability towards Lance Armstrong for example. Although with all the fake moon landing conspiracy people and flat earhters around it might actually be a tad surprising. Damn.

Lance Armstrong was the cyclist. I think you’re thinking of Neil Young.


I think you both mean Buzz Lightyear.

I was convinced he was talking about Stretch Armstrong.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
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