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riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
August 06 2024 02:59 GMT
#86521
Let's get back on topic then: Why didn't RFK Jr. eat the bear... ???
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
August 06 2024 03:29 GMT
#86522
On August 06 2024 11:59 riotjune wrote:
Let's get back on topic then: Why didn't RFK Jr. eat the bear... ???

If it's cocaine bear you're talking about, I'm pretty sure he has.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 06 2024 04:24 GMT
#86523
On August 06 2024 11:59 riotjune wrote:
Let's get back on topic then: Why didn't RFK Jr. eat the bear... ???


Maybe the brain worm didn’t want company
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46275 Posts
August 06 2024 07:02 GMT
#86524
Some of Trump's recent social media posts include misspellings of Kamala Harris's name, such as "kamabla".

Not sure if intentional or covfefe.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27265 Posts
August 06 2024 07:21 GMT
#86525
On August 06 2024 11:59 riotjune wrote:
Let's get back on topic then: Why didn't RFK Jr. eat the bear... ???

I just find it promising that the Kennedy clan has graduated to merely covering up the deaths of bears
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1177 Posts
August 06 2024 07:51 GMT
#86526

Does Palestine have a right to exist?


Palestine identity can exist, the death cult , Hamas, Fatah, Hezbolah.. can not.

To my knowledge "palestinians" in the british controlled zone (before they had any idea that they needed a national identity) were outnumbered quickly by jewish immigrants from europe which sparked violence.

In 1948, the jewish migrants beat palestinians to form a nation.

So maybe this is the same story as european settlers displacing "first nations" or natives around the globe, but israel has been pretty late to the party - though the need for an ethno-state to feel save in was rather evident given the holocaust.


"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
August 06 2024 08:11 GMT
#86527
Fatah?
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46275 Posts
August 06 2024 10:11 GMT
#86528
On August 06 2024 12:29 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2024 11:59 riotjune wrote:
Let's get back on topic then: Why didn't RFK Jr. eat the bear... ???

If it's cocaine bear you're talking about, I'm pretty sure he has.


I think it's a reference to how he picked up a dead bear cub, put it in his car, wanted to eat it, but then dumped it instead: https://www.npr.org/2024/08/05/nx-s1-5063939/rfk-jr-central-park-bear-bicycle
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 06 2024 11:09 GMT
#86529
On August 06 2024 16:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Some of Trump's recent social media posts include misspellings of Kamala Harris's name, such as "kamabla".

Not sure if intentional or covfefe.

If we start seeing it slowly morphing into Koblama I'm going to lose it.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46275 Posts
August 06 2024 11:44 GMT
#86530
On August 06 2024 20:09 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2024 16:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Some of Trump's recent social media posts include misspellings of Kamala Harris's name, such as "kamabla".

Not sure if intentional or covfefe.

If we start seeing it slowly morphing into Koblama I'm going to lose it.


Biderack Koblama?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1177 Posts
August 06 2024 12:21 GMT
#86531
On August 06 2024 17:11 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Fatah?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
August 06 2024 13:01 GMT
#86532
Sounds like Walz is the pick. I can dig it.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46275 Posts
August 06 2024 14:12 GMT
#86533
On August 06 2024 22:01 farvacola wrote:
Sounds like Walz is the pick. I can dig it.


Yeah, seems that way: https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/kamala-harris-trump-election-08-06-24/index.html

I'm not mad at that. He's a good guy, and definitely a more useful pick than JD Vance is for Trump.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46275 Posts
August 06 2024 14:47 GMT
#86534
One nice perk about Harris picking Walz over Shapiro: Shapiro was more moderate/conservative of a Democrat, including being pro- school vouchers, but not only is Walz more progressive and anti- school vouchers, he was also a teacher himself! Pennsylvania is no longer guaranteed though, so it's a higher-risk, higher-reward move by Harris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
August 06 2024 14:56 GMT
#86535
On August 06 2024 23:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
One nice perk about Harris picking Walz over Shapiro: Shapiro was more moderate/conservative of a Democrat, including being pro- school vouchers, but not only is Walz more progressive and anti- school vouchers, he was also a teacher himself! Pennsylvania is no longer guaranteed though, so it's a higher-risk, higher-reward move by Harris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz

Yeah. I want to see this pay off. In my heart of hearts, I would prefer someone more progressive like him over Shapiro anyway. It's just that old question of how much do you sacrifice for the electability bugbear. Perhaps the criticisms of Shapiro came through, and this was another Biden-stepping-down moment. They seem to be making all the best moves they can.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46275 Posts
August 06 2024 14:59 GMT
#86536
On August 06 2024 23:56 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2024 23:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
One nice perk about Harris picking Walz over Shapiro: Shapiro was more moderate/conservative of a Democrat, including being pro- school vouchers, but not only is Walz more progressive and anti- school vouchers, he was also a teacher himself! Pennsylvania is no longer guaranteed though, so it's a higher-risk, higher-reward move by Harris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz

Yeah. I want to see this pay off. In my heart of hearts, I would prefer someone more progressive like him over Shapiro anyway. It's just that old question of how much do you sacrifice for the electability bugbear. Perhaps the criticisms of Shapiro came through, and this was another Biden-stepping-down moment. They seem to be making all the best moves they can.


As long as Harris still wins PA / the presidency, then yeah I 100% agree with you!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24251 Posts
August 06 2024 15:17 GMT
#86537
On August 06 2024 23:56 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2024 23:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
One nice perk about Harris picking Walz over Shapiro: Shapiro was more moderate/conservative of a Democrat, including being pro- school vouchers, but not only is Walz more progressive and anti- school vouchers, he was also a teacher himself! Pennsylvania is no longer guaranteed though, so it's a higher-risk, higher-reward move by Harris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz

Yeah. I want to see this pay off. In my heart of hearts, I would prefer someone more progressive like him over Shapiro anyway. It's just that old question of how much do you sacrifice for the electability bugbear. Perhaps the criticisms of Shapiro came through, and this was another Biden-stepping-down moment. They seem to be making all the best moves they can.

Think it was the Ellen Greenberg story that did him in. Going to be bad enough for Democrats in PA having it in the background, would be immeasurably worse to have it front and center with Shapiro as VP.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46275 Posts
August 06 2024 15:42 GMT
#86538
There seems to be less controversy and less in-fighting about Walz, compared to Shapiro. A ton of unifying statements, from both moderate and progressive Democrats. I like this quote, in particular:

"Tim Walz has the courage of a veteran, the compassion of a school teacher, the grit of a football coach, and the experience of both a congressman and governor. He is a fantastic choice for Vice President." ~Keith Ellison

On August 07 2024 00:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2024 23:56 NewSunshine wrote:
On August 06 2024 23:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
One nice perk about Harris picking Walz over Shapiro: Shapiro was more moderate/conservative of a Democrat, including being pro- school vouchers, but not only is Walz more progressive and anti- school vouchers, he was also a teacher himself! Pennsylvania is no longer guaranteed though, so it's a higher-risk, higher-reward move by Harris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz

Yeah. I want to see this pay off. In my heart of hearts, I would prefer someone more progressive like him over Shapiro anyway. It's just that old question of how much do you sacrifice for the electability bugbear. Perhaps the criticisms of Shapiro came through, and this was another Biden-stepping-down moment. They seem to be making all the best moves they can.

Think it was the Ellen Greenberg story that did him in. Going to be bad enough for Democrats in PA having it in the background, would be immeasurably worse to have it front and center with Shapiro as VP.


Hey GH, what are your thoughts on Walz being chosen as Harris's runningmate? Reasonable choice or serious misstep?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24251 Posts
August 06 2024 16:05 GMT
#86539
On August 07 2024 00:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
There seems to be less controversy and less in-fighting about Walz, compared to Shapiro. A ton of unifying statements, from both moderate and progressive Democrats. I like this quote, in particular:

"Tim Walz has the courage of a veteran, the compassion of a school teacher, the grit of a football coach, and the experience of both a congressman and governor. He is a fantastic choice for Vice President." ~Keith Ellison

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2024 00:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 06 2024 23:56 NewSunshine wrote:
On August 06 2024 23:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
One nice perk about Harris picking Walz over Shapiro: Shapiro was more moderate/conservative of a Democrat, including being pro- school vouchers, but not only is Walz more progressive and anti- school vouchers, he was also a teacher himself! Pennsylvania is no longer guaranteed though, so it's a higher-risk, higher-reward move by Harris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz

Yeah. I want to see this pay off. In my heart of hearts, I would prefer someone more progressive like him over Shapiro anyway. It's just that old question of how much do you sacrifice for the electability bugbear. Perhaps the criticisms of Shapiro came through, and this was another Biden-stepping-down moment. They seem to be making all the best moves they can.

Think it was the Ellen Greenberg story that did him in. Going to be bad enough for Democrats in PA having it in the background, would be immeasurably worse to have it front and center with Shapiro as VP.


Hey GH, what are your thoughts on Walz being chosen as Harris's runningmate? Reasonable choice or serious misstep?

Certainly haven't heard as many bad things about Walz compared to Shapiro. For Democrats, I'd say he's about the best they could have hoped for. But to characterize him as left is so unreal

Not looking forward to how Democrats are going to respond to the George Floyd uprisings being back in the news in this context.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46275 Posts
August 06 2024 16:11 GMT
#86540
On August 07 2024 01:05 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2024 00:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
There seems to be less controversy and less in-fighting about Walz, compared to Shapiro. A ton of unifying statements, from both moderate and progressive Democrats. I like this quote, in particular:

"Tim Walz has the courage of a veteran, the compassion of a school teacher, the grit of a football coach, and the experience of both a congressman and governor. He is a fantastic choice for Vice President." ~Keith Ellison

On August 07 2024 00:17 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 06 2024 23:56 NewSunshine wrote:
On August 06 2024 23:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
One nice perk about Harris picking Walz over Shapiro: Shapiro was more moderate/conservative of a Democrat, including being pro- school vouchers, but not only is Walz more progressive and anti- school vouchers, he was also a teacher himself! Pennsylvania is no longer guaranteed though, so it's a higher-risk, higher-reward move by Harris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz

Yeah. I want to see this pay off. In my heart of hearts, I would prefer someone more progressive like him over Shapiro anyway. It's just that old question of how much do you sacrifice for the electability bugbear. Perhaps the criticisms of Shapiro came through, and this was another Biden-stepping-down moment. They seem to be making all the best moves they can.

Think it was the Ellen Greenberg story that did him in. Going to be bad enough for Democrats in PA having it in the background, would be immeasurably worse to have it front and center with Shapiro as VP.


Hey GH, what are your thoughts on Walz being chosen as Harris's runningmate? Reasonable choice or serious misstep?

Certainly haven't heard as many bad things about Walz compared to Shapiro. For Democrats, I'd say he's about the best they could have hoped for. But to characterize him as left is so unreal

Not looking forward to how Democrats are going to respond to the George Floyd uprisings being back in the news in this context.


I appreciate your unique perspective on Walz, given that you're obviously far more on the left than he or other options are.

What's going on with George Floyd uprisings?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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