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On August 25 2023 10:09 JimmiC wrote: Quite the pose the first US president with a mug shot chose for his immortalization. Absolutely boggles my mind that people think he’s cool and want him to lead their country. He looks like he is playing the tough guy lead in high school musical and he’s taking his head shot for the poster 😂. He try’s so hard to look tough and people buy it!
There’s literally been a ‘drug war’ in this domain for fucking what, decades now?
How’d that go? You can really escalate it further to the degree it deals with the problem?
On August 25 2023 09:11 micronesia wrote: Don't forget how popular and supported Nixon was until the last minute. The house of cards could come tumbling down before the primary is settled.
Nixon was still popular with the rank and file but the mainstream media refused to paint anything but a balanced picture of him and on balance he was obviously a crook. After that betrayal by the media the conservatives deliberately cultivated their own alternative truth media so they could avoid a repeat of Nixon.
The media carrying water for an angry assistant director of the FBI who leaked secret Intel about bog-standard (for the day) political dirty tricks is "neutral?"
"The first 2024 Republican presidential primary debate is in the books, and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley and businessman Vivek Ramaswamy seem to have made the best impressions. We know that thanks to fresh data from a FiveThirtyEight / Washington Post / Ipsos poll, conducted using Ipsos’s Knowledge Panel in the hours immediately following the debate. We surveyed the same group of likely Republican primary voters before and after the debate, allowing us to see how much it may have shifted public opinion. All pre- and post-debate numbers below are limited to respondents who watched some or all of the debate." https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/republican-debate-august-poll/
On August 25 2023 19:16 Simberto wrote: So, was there anyone in there that I would call not insane? Some sliver of hope for the republican party, or just more and more down the crazy hole?
And if yes, did that person have a chance at all?
It seriously seems like anyone not called Trump has no chance at all.
On August 25 2023 19:16 Simberto wrote: So, was there anyone in there that I would call not insane? Some sliver of hope for the republican party, or just more and more down the crazy hole?
And if yes, did that person have a chance at all?
It seriously seems like anyone not called Trump has no chance at all.
But Trump might go to prison, right? I assume that you can not be elected when you are in prison?
On August 25 2023 19:16 Simberto wrote: So, was there anyone in there that I would call not insane? Some sliver of hope for the republican party, or just more and more down the crazy hole?
And if yes, did that person have a chance at all?
It seriously seems like anyone not called Trump has no chance at all.
But Trump might go to prison, right? I assume that you can not be elected when you are in prison?
You absolutely can, and people have run for office from prison in the past (unsuccessfully)
The only limit the constitution places (via the 14th amendment), crime wise, is that you can't have been convicted of insurrection or rebellion.
Now plenty of here would say that Trump has engaged in exactly that with his attempts to overturn the election, but I'm not sure if he is being specifically being charged with insurrection.
On August 25 2023 05:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: First Republican primary debate was last night, featuring everyone but Trump. (Trump is refusing to take part in all primary debates, not sure about the general debates yet.) Debate starts at 1:13:47 timestamp, lasts around two hours.
I didn't watch the debate, or Trump's interview, but I did see various tweets claiming it was "the most watched interview ever."
Given that Tucker's previous interviews with the Tates are, or were the most watched interviews, it doesn't seem at all far fetched to me:
Musk's twitter method of view count is very heavily inflated, just scrolling past counts as 'viewed'. It's a complete nonsense number since anyone can randomly quote the video in a reply chain and people will scroll past and 'view'.
On August 25 2023 19:16 Simberto wrote: So, was there anyone in there that I would call not insane? Some sliver of hope for the republican party, or just more and more down the crazy hole?
And if yes, did that person have a chance at all?
I think Christie and Haley each gave at least one non-insane answer, and maybe there was another no-name candidate or two who did the same, but there wasn't enough substantive policy discussion to say for sure if you (or I) would think the candidate isn't insane... and the bar is set impractically low for "not insane compared to Trump and Pence and DeSantis" to actually mean anything... and none of them have any chance at beating Trump in the primary anyway.
On August 25 2023 05:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: First Republican primary debate was last night, featuring everyone but Trump. (Trump is refusing to take part in all primary debates, not sure about the general debates yet.) Debate starts at 1:13:47 timestamp, lasts around two hours. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccPDCzJuLgI
I didn't watch the debate, or Trump's interview, but I did see various tweets claiming it was "the most watched interview ever."
Given that Tucker's previous interviews with the Tates are, or were the most watched interviews, it doesn't seem at all far fetched to me:
Musk's twitter method of view count is very heavily inflated, just scrolling past counts as 'viewed'. It's a complete nonsense number since anyone can randomly quote the video in a reply chain and people will scroll past and 'view'.
Yeah twitter views are worthless. There's a reason why it's the only social media platform where people focus on how many times something was liked and shared rather than viewed.
On August 25 2023 19:16 Simberto wrote: So, was there anyone in there that I would call not insane? Some sliver of hope for the republican party, or just more and more down the crazy hole?
And if yes, did that person have a chance at all?
It seriously seems like anyone not called Trump has no chance at all.
But Trump might go to prison, right? I assume that you can not be elected when you are in prison?
You absolutely can, and people have run for office from prison in the past (unsuccessfully)
The only limit the constitution places (via the 14th amendment), crime wise, is that you can't have been convicted of insurrection or rebellion.
Now plenty of here would say that Trump has engaged in exactly that with his attempts to overturn the election, but I'm not sure if he is being specifically being charged with insurrection.
Moreover they basically all said they'd be supporting him for president if he was running from prison anyway. Worth noting Trump was already selling merch with his mugshot on it a couple hours after it was taken.
Surprised DPB didn't mention that they are all seeking to crush teachers unions into oblivion, if not abolish public education altogether.
However the 2024 election goes, it's going to be a rough ride to get to 2030 (when we'll fly past the drop-dead dates for countless unmet goals on mitigating global ecological catastrophe)
On August 26 2023 01:12 TaKeTV wrote: I guess its rather an impression than a view which in itself can be a metric but should obviously be accounted for
It includes if it scrolls on your screen, it’s worthless when it’s being pushed.
I agree but its used in statistics. YouTube afaik has impressions too if your video gets suggested/shown (not just endcard, but just in any sort of form sidebar, homescreen etc pp) Obviously both are algorythmic driven so I rate impressions as low as anyone (you say worthless) but its something others work with I guess.
Fundamentally I agree with your point of view though - just wanted to clarify that impressions are used
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