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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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FeatherPlanes
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On June 26 2022 10:06 JimmiC wrote: The differnce is China is forcing people away from religion and the US is moving towards forcing people to follow tge baptist religion. Not really. The Chinese government, unlike the Soviets that they're so often compared to, are trying to make lives better for the Chinese people. A lot of the mistakes they make is a result of the top-down governance system they have, which is the opposite problem we in the West have. But they for the most part are trying. This is different to the US where the political system is illegitimate because everyone can see that the elected officials and power structures do not exist to serve the people. There's concerns regarding rising Chinese nationalism but that's really no different from any other country with world stage aspirations if we're going to be truthful here. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On June 26 2022 09:45 Zambrah wrote: Yeah, its not nearly as bad as most people in America believe it is. Are we talking about China or America? We've got Nyxisto pointing out that if you don't do any political activism in China you'll be fine. What do you think is going to happen to you in America if you follow the leader exactly? | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On June 26 2022 10:14 FeatherPlanes wrote: Not really. The Chinese government, unlike the Soviets that they're so often compared to, are trying to make lives better for the Chinese people. A lot of the mistakes they make is a result of the top-down governance system they have, which is the opposite problem we in the West have. But they for the most part are trying. This is different to the US where the political system is illegitimate because everyone can see that the elected officials and power structures do not exist to serve the people. There's concerns regarding rising Chinese nationalism but that's really no different from any other country with world stage aspirations if we're going to be truthful here. They're trying very hard to get money into their pockets too and have a leader who rules with an iron fist. So it's cool as long as you don't belong to the targeted minorities. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On June 26 2022 10:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Are we talking about China or America? We've got Nyxisto pointing out that if you don't do any political activism in China you'll be fine. What do you think is going to happen to you in America if you follow the leader exactly? People in America don’t know much about China, Nyxisto’s assessment is spot on. I can’t really parse what you’re trying to say in the second sentence. | ||
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Deleted User 173346
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Sermokala
United States14146 Posts
On June 26 2022 10:12 NewSunshine wrote: Yeah, religious freedom is shot in the US now, you have to confirm to radicalized Christianity and it's twisted views. I wonder if the case can be made yet that they've essentially nullified the 1st Amendment. I'm sure the Right doesn't mind tiptoeing that line. Satanism is a recognized religion and is sueing for unlimited access to abortion drugs. Either religious liberty dies or stanism becomes the most popular religion in half the country | ||
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Vivax
22391 Posts
One thing about abortions is that (in my country) after a three months pregnancy, a team of MDs has to convene and decide whether they do it or not, I think an ethics council is involved too before that. What is often overlooked is whether you want to be part of a team that agrees to do it and has to kill possibly conscious human life. In the same spot, I don't think I could do it. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On June 26 2022 18:51 Vivax wrote: Possibly old topic here, but somehow it made it into my local news. One thing about abortions is that (in my country) after a three months pregnancy, a team of MDs has to convene and decide whether they do it or not, I think an ethics council is involved too before that. What is often overlooked is whether you want to be part of a team that agrees to do it and has to kill possibly conscious human life. In the same spot, I don't think I could do it. I would expect that you're allowed to opt out of being part of such medical councils. You're saying that in Austria doctors don't have that option? | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On June 26 2022 12:24 Zambrah wrote: People in America don’t know much about China, Nyxisto’s assessment is spot on. I can’t really parse what you’re trying to say in the second sentence. You're saying if you become a boot licker in China nothing bad will happen to you. If you become a boot licker in America nothing is going to happen to you either. If you're a minority maybe you need to move to a deep blue city and avoid sunset towns like Plasmid is pointing out, but some of you need a reality check on how unsafe America has become. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Also can you just parse what it means to be in the US as a minority if youre force to "move to a deep blue city and avoid sunset towns?" The US has fucking sunset towns, ignoring how cruel and stupid it is to imply that minorities should just have to move to deep blue cities (super possible with all of that really high income so many minorities are known for having right!) the US has fucking towns where minorities are driven out past sunset by threat and violence. If half the shit that goes down in this dump happened in another country people in the US would be decrying that country as a third world fascist shithole. | ||
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silynxer
Germany439 Posts
On June 26 2022 22:13 Zambrah wrote: If youre passive in China nothing bad will happen to you Note that not being passive includes such dangerous terrorist activities as growing a beard as a Uyghur. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On June 26 2022 22:25 silynxer wrote: Note that not being passive includes such dangerous terrorist activities as growing a beard as a Uyghur. Yes, being a uighur in China sucks big ass, but given the context of western people contemplating leaving the US, being a part of that particular minority in China is unlikely at best. If youre in the US and want to leave to any other country, in China the only thing thatll be particularly worse for you as opposed to the US is that youll have to have a VPN, and it wont work during the political holidays, but you also get those days off because China has more holidays off than the US. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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pmh
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On June 26 2022 18:29 Sermokala wrote: Satanism is a recognized religion and is sueing for unlimited access to abortion drugs. Either religious liberty dies or stanism becomes the most popular religion in half the country The Satanic Temple is, but they aren't Satanists - that's the Church of Satan. Two very different groups. | ||
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Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
On June 26 2022 09:06 pmh wrote: I have no idea why you think conservatives anywhere are going to slow down after a major victory. If the conservatives on the Supreme Court have the opportunity to make another major ruling, they'll do it. If, for example, they have a case that gives than an opportunity to overturn Obergefell v Hodges, they're going to choose to do the thing they want to do (overturn it) and piss off liberals than restrain themselves, uphold it, and piss off conservatives.I doubt there will be more controversial court decissions in the near future. The risk would be way to big. Current verdict is already pretty much a gamble though the conservatives will most likely will get away with it. They wont push it further now but depending on how things go maybe in a few years they can make another step. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
They won't be happy until every right we've ever won for Americans is destroyed. They're looking for a return to "the good old days", circa 1776. They don't fetishize that date for no reason. We're going allllllll the way back. Calling them Conservatives definitely doesn't fit anymore. They are radical regressives, and right now they're proving it. | ||
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