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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 27 2022 01:41 GMT
#73001
On May 27 2022 10:02 KwarK wrote:
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On May 27 2022 07:18 Gorsameth wrote:
I assume everyone understands the overwhelming drive of a parent to rescue their children, but keeping civilians out of an active shooting zone is a pretty standard action for police.

In as much as they may interfere with the police response to the active shooter. In this case the police response to the active shooter was to wait for him to run out of kids.

Well, yeah, that's the interference. In much the same way that Republicans can't have laws that interfere with White Supremacy, so that's not allowed either.

You can really tell that police are awesome and we think they do a great job. A+/10.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 27 2022 02:05 GMT
#73002
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Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
May 27 2022 02:22 GMT
#73003
Yeah if people haven't realized after the last two years that police aren't their friends I don't know what to say.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14161 Posts
May 27 2022 03:00 GMT
#73004
I don't have the words to talk about just how bad the stories coming out of what the police department did. The nra convention is tomorrow.

Beto needs to go and join the protest and cause a scene. This midterms needs to be about rage from the left. You can't be anything but grief filled anger about what's going on.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
May 27 2022 03:36 GMT
#73005
On May 27 2022 07:18 Gorsameth wrote:
I assume everyone understands the overwhelming drive of a parent to rescue their children, but keeping civilians out of an active shooting zone is a pretty standard action for police.

A woman saved her child because she disregarded police. No matter how you slice it, the cops are repugnant at best.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-27 03:51:34
May 27 2022 03:51 GMT
#73006
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
May 27 2022 03:56 GMT
#73007
Good luck getting the uncut footage, the scumbag police aren't going to let a single second of footage get released that doesnt show them in an entirely positive light.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 27 2022 04:01 GMT
#73008
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
May 27 2022 04:09 GMT
#73009
I also dont trust the scumbag FBI not to collaborate with the police on covering up their incompetency.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
May 27 2022 04:19 GMT
#73010
The FBI killed MLK. Of course they are also repugnant trash.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 27 2022 04:23 GMT
#73011
Body cams have always been perverted to be just another tool in the belt for corrupt cops. In the more recent skirmishes of the war on drugs, cops released body cam footage of a cop fainting and falling to the ground by merely being near fentanyl that they found in a search.

It's complete BS, the drug doesn't work that way, you get literally 0 effects from it if it's not entering your blood stream, but if it lets a couple of cops play actor and sell some dangerous and self-serving misinformation, why not, right?

So, yeah. I digress a bit. But body cams were very quickly pivoted from being a tool of alleged accountability, to basically being a narrative generator by virtue of omissions and outright acting and lying. And it has the added benefit of making people who don't know better feel like they're more trustworthy, when it's really the ref in a gambling match that's only there to call it for the mob. Or like any company's HR department. It serves literally the opposite function that it seems to have on the surface.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-27 04:32:33
May 27 2022 04:29 GMT
#73012
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-27 04:43:17
May 27 2022 04:34 GMT
#73013
I'm basically citing the piece from Last Week Tonight from a while back, which includes medical experts explaining a variety of interesting things about how fentanyl does and doesn't work, and how there are actually really solid ways of fighting its abuse and helping addicts, which are getting shot in the foot by... you guessed it, Republicans! Who, by the way, are much happier to stigmatize, demonize, and punish them for already being in a shitty situation.



Gotta keep the grift going.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
May 27 2022 04:35 GMT
#73014
Its a common myth that HR serves the people who work at a company, in reality HR serves the company and will be plenty awful in order to protect the company. Any help they may give to employees is generally only done because it serves the company by preventing lawsuits, etc.

Basically the point is not to assume good intentions when it comes to institutions, unfortunately thats the world capitalism has built for us.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 27 2022 04:37 GMT
#73015
On May 27 2022 13:29 JimmiC wrote:
And is the human resources department not helpful where you work? Mine has been great with all sorts of things.

I guess maybe it's a different story in Canada, lol. It's basically a mechanism to protect upper management in America, they are not there to help you, they are there to make sure the concerns you voice about management never actually become a problem for the company.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-27 04:40:57
May 27 2022 04:39 GMT
#73016
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
May 27 2022 04:45 GMT
#73017
HR is there to follow legal's guidance to prevent legal from having to get involved, people dont go to legal about sexual harassment they go to HR.

All company's HR departments exist exclusively for the benefit of the company, companies dont have good will, they dont care about human beings, they care about their bottom line and if HR didnt serve that function HR wouldn't exist. HR will never have an employees interests in mind, they will always have the business' interests in mind and if the two happen to coincide that is entirely coincidental and not due to any sort of good will on the part of the business.

HR is not your friend, to any people in the US who may need to hear this, if you have concerns like sexual harassment or other workplace issues please consider consulting a lawyer. Many operate on contingency so you don't necessarily need to be rich to get one. Don't rely on HR, don't trust HR, they are not your friend.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-27 04:54:00
May 27 2022 04:51 GMT
#73018
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
May 27 2022 04:53 GMT
#73019
I didn't say they were evil, I said they dont actually care about you, its not their function to care about employees.

As I said, if it looks like they care its entirely because the interests of the business happen to align with doing something that makes it look like HR cares, not because HR actually intrinsically cares. HR's purpose is not to care about employees, its to protect the business from employees.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-27 04:55:18
May 27 2022 04:55 GMT
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