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farvacola
United States18818 Posts
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Dan HH
Romania9017 Posts
On January 14 2021 00:46 LegalLord wrote: I can only wonder why the coup that actually happened ended up having as few casualties as it did. If the group were 10% more organized, they very well could have taken Congress hostage and done a lot more damage. You're wondering why people that didn't wear masks while committing domestic terrorism on livestream during the only time period in history requiring everyone to carry masks around weren't more organized? | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On January 14 2021 00:56 Dan HH wrote: You're wondering why people that didn't wear masks while committing domestic terrorism on livestream during the only time period in history requiring everyone to carry masks around weren't more organized? Ideally you'd have at least one or two competent, evil people capable of organizing the crowd in an event like that. Evidently they had enough forethought to tour the Capitol and get a couple Congressmen on board with the whole thing, but they got baited by silly things like an officer taking a turn away from the entrance to the Senate floor. Really, it's amazing how close they were to doing a whole lot of damage but bungling that little last bit. Perhaps not necessarily surprising, but certainly amazing. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13750 Posts
On January 14 2021 00:43 farvacola wrote: There were almost certainly inside actors, and word is that three congresspeople in particular are the focus of the FBI's investigation. I'd guess that includes Boebert and Gosar, but the third I'm less sure of (maybe Gaetz). On a related note, J Edgar Hoover is rolling in his grave over the fact that he died before he could potentially charge sitting congresspeople like this lol Screw a few sitting congresspeople he could go after the president himself. I don't know if he'd vote for trump or if his wife being russian would have been a deal-breaker. Either way he'd be positively aroused to get even a former president on tax fraud. Could you imagine what he would have done with all the parler data and the way that people spread their location and face on sites that he can get with auto-approved FISA warrants? He would have torn through all those people in order to get cover for assassinating more black leaders. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35092 Posts
On January 14 2021 00:46 LegalLord wrote: I can only wonder why the coup that actually happened ended up having as few casualties as it did. If the group were 10% more organized, they very well could have taken Congress hostage and done a lot more damage. Even then it was a matter of not following the Black officers left and instead going right and they would have been right outside of the unsecured Senate shelter. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On January 14 2021 01:01 Gahlo wrote: Even then it was a matter of not following the Black officers left and instead going right and they would have been right outside of the unsecured Senate shelter. They were so racist and stupid that their brains shut off when they saw a black officer and they chased him like lemmings. It's honestly amazing (and makes me suspect that the officer has a lot of experience with these types, given the way he taunted them and stayed juuust out of reach of them the whole time). Here's some more footage showing they had access to floor plans (via WaPo writer) : Apparently there's serious discussion about expelling qanoners Majorie Taylor-Greene and Boebert. | ||
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farvacola
United States18818 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15398 Posts
On January 14 2021 01:26 Nevuk wrote: They were so racist and stupid that their brains shut off when they saw a black officer and they chased him like lemmings. It's honestly amazing (and makes me suspect that the officer has a lot of experience with these types, given the way he taunted them and stayed juuust out of reach of them the whole time). Here's some more footage showing they had access to floor plans : https://twitter.com/AynRandPaulRyan/status/1349312406804025345 Deeply seeded racism being the determining factor that prevented the attack being successful is pretty amazing. As we discuss how poorly this went, we should remember if the terrorists hadn't followed the officer, we'd be having very different conversations right now. | ||
KwarK
United States41991 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Slydie
1899 Posts
On January 14 2021 01:46 JimmiC wrote: It really is beautiful because it shows that their reasons for not are purely political and because of Trump. And considering masks effectiveness Trump politicizing them cost the economy billions if not trillions. It is going to be hard to rank all of Trumps worst decisions but that one has to be in the top 10. I haven't talked to all of them, but considering how many videos the insurrectionists took of themselves, not wearing masks could be just as much about wanting to prove their presence to their peers. Also, masks do not fit with the "covid-19 is a hoax" conspiracy theory. Masks or not, just calling for the rally these days should be considered a felony. Thousands might die because of it. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Howie_Dewitt
United States1416 Posts
C-SPAN has it on their stream. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9346 Posts
Its too transparent. Positioning themselves to blame democrats and the impeachment when Trump's moron followers do whatever they're going to do next. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On January 14 2021 02:05 Nevuk wrote: My understanding is they're voting on rules atm, not impeachment yet. Ooooooooh. So the "real" vote will be later today? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15398 Posts
On January 14 2021 02:10 Jockmcplop wrote: The republicans talking about unity can fuck off tbh. Its too transparent. Positioning themselves to blame democrats and the impeachment when Trump's moron followers do whatever they're going to do next. It’s the definition of victim blaming. Telling people not to rock the boat when bad things happen to you is also by the book rural America thinking. This goes along with the cultural development stuff. The idea that rocking the boat is always a bad thing is some medieval shit. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11338 Posts
On January 14 2021 02:13 Mohdoo wrote: It’s the definition of victim blaming. Telling people not to rock the boat when bad things happen to you is also by the book rural America thinking. This goes along with the cultural development stuff. The idea that rocking the boat is always a bad thing is some medieval shit. They can definitively have unity. They just need to get off their regressive crazy horse and join the sane people. But of course that is not what they mean or want. When they say "we need unity", they mean "you should come to us so we can be united here". The idea of changing even the smallest detail about themselves or their politics to unite with others doesn't even cross their minds. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7122 Posts
On January 14 2021 00:43 farvacola wrote: There were almost certainly inside actors, and word is that three congresspeople in particular are the focus of the FBI's investigation. I'd guess that includes Boebert and Gosar, but the third I'm less sure of (maybe Gaetz). On a related note, J Edgar Hoover is rolling in his grave over the fact that he died before he could potentially charge sitting congresspeople like this lol Ali Alexander one of the leaders of Stop the Steal said he received help from reps Paul Gosar, Andy Briggs, and Mo Brooks | ||
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