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On January 07 2021 08:56 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:37 Danglars wrote:On January 07 2021 08:30 Doublemint wrote:On January 07 2021 08:17 Danglars wrote:On January 07 2021 07:56 Doublemint wrote:I foresee something juicy brewing. the fallout from this will WANT Republicans to disentangle from Trump asap - kinda like Danglars (  ) - one can hope for impeachment. interesting will be how the electoral college defectors will be handled. here things are very much in flux. one thing's for certain though. Trump will not go down quietly. motherfucker is a nihilistic narcissist, and oh so sure of himself. I hope for him to do something stupid. so we can have actual fireworks, like Rs going after him by throwing the book at him and him martyring himself and taking the base with him. You guys still hug and kiss Clinton and Abrams and Gillum, so I'm pretty content. Also, who wants to joke about the tame "disentangle" nonsense, when the claim's moved on to fascist enabler or actual fascist? You gotta get with the times, man! And the left's proposing expelling House members by House resolution. Sounds like fun, resist fascism, legislation. playing with democratic norms is not something to take lightly. not everyone is so dead inside that cynical ploys like having a sizeable chunk of Rs not certifiying electoral college votes - checked and rechecked and found to be legitimate - because of fabricated and fake political concerns does not stir them. and if you wanna go there, Clinton was right. what happend today was deplorable. she and many others just saw it earlier. I don't know about taking away seats, but frankly they should be held responsible. you know party of personal responsibility and all. I'm less worried about the future of the Republican party given these sort of opinions. Democrats objected to electoral results before, capriciously, and hypocrites constantly backpedal now. Clinton did her "basket of deplorables," and deserved to lose, and thankfully did. These are independent of the person of Trump, and as long as Democrats are tied to the people I mentioned, there's a chance of recovery. I don't really think in time for the 2022 election, in terms of fallout, but a good chance by 2024. to my knowledge nothing Dems did even comes close and nothing went as far as the bullshit spouted and actively purported by Rs in trying to overturn the election. having a problem with the electoral college, sure. and so what? if the ec victory does not reflect the majorities will and this discrepancy gets bigger cycle after cyle that's not a concern? with millions more votes you lose an election - in what world does that make sense? Whenever Dems do it, it isn't as bad, and its whataboutism to even bring it up, and since it got a whole lot worse afterwards, it's no use refreshing. It's the same story every year since I started paying attention to politics sometime in the late 90s.
I guess perfect sense as long as you stay in power and claim state's rights. I don't care on eota for the Clintons, though that deplorables comment was spot on. you using the attack talking point created by the RNC/FOX attack machine by cutting it short does not make it wrong. Show nested quote +“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” but alas I digress, I am not interest in furthering this fruitless discussion.
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should have clarified, the "Clinton discussion", thats the one I am not interested in. who gives a fuck about them? Rs need new boogeymen that stick for realz, especially when radical liberal pastor warnock can win in a state like GA. /s
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On January 07 2021 08:53 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:48 m4ini wrote:I have no fondness for the efforts to shame you into compliance or whatever it is. It really is not what your country needs right now. I actually entirely disagree here. I don't think people try to force him into compliance, they try to force him to actually reflect. The reason he gets hammered on is despite this entire shit show, he still goes back to whataboutism, talking about how bad Clinton was and how she deserved to lose and whatnot. This "piling on" is entirely of his own making by refusing to accept that trump was a mistake, and that it was ALWAYS obvious. I bet you the second people actually would for a split second believe that he thinks Trump was a mistake (which he doesn't), people would slow down "the pilening". He doesn't think Trump was a mistake against Hillary, but he admitted several pages ago that retrospectively, Trump was a mistake against Biden.
.. and it doesn't sound odd to you, at all?
"I'm okay with the obviously insane person winning against Hillary, but now that the obviously insane person is losing, now it's a mistake - only that part though"?
I'm sorry. This was always going to happen. People knew BEFORE he was running for president that he's a conman, and living in a different reality. For people a bit slower than the norm, that was immediately obvious straight after the inauguration when he started inventing "facts".
Fact is, trump was always a mistake. There's no "degradation" of trumps mind, this is trump being trump. There's no "it's a mistake now, but wasn't back then".
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Just got through the Trump rally speech from a couple hours ago. That was something to behold.
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On January 07 2021 08:53 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:48 m4ini wrote:I have no fondness for the efforts to shame you into compliance or whatever it is. It really is not what your country needs right now. I actually entirely disagree here. I don't think people try to force him into compliance, they try to force him to actually reflect. The reason he gets hammered on is despite this entire shit show, he still goes back to whataboutism, talking about how bad Clinton was and how she deserved to lose and whatnot. This "piling on" is entirely of his own making by refusing to accept that trump was a mistake, and that it was ALWAYS obvious. I bet you the second people actually would for a split second believe that he thinks Trump was a mistake (which he doesn't), people would slow down "the pilening". He doesn't think Trump was a mistake against Hillary, but he admitted several pages ago that retrospectively, Trump was a mistake against Biden.
.. and it doesn't sound odd to you, at all?
"I'm okay with the obviously insane person winning against Hillary, but now that the obviously insane person is losing, now it's a mistake - only that part though"?
I'm sorry. This was always going to happen. People knew BEFORE he was running for president that he's a conman, and living in a different reality. For people a bit slower than the norm, that was immediately obvious straight after the inauguration when he started inventing "facts".
Fact is, trump was always a mistake. There's no "degradation" of trumps mind, this is trump being trump. There's no "it's a mistake now, but wasn't back then".
edit: to be a bit clearer: claiming the necessity of hindsight in regards to trump is stupid. The only point you're making is that you didn't give a shit beforehand. At best. At worst, you were simply okay with it because it was "your team winning".
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Per nbc, Trump's twitter account is locked for 12 hours
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On January 07 2021 09:06 Doublemint wrote:
should have clarified, the "Clinton discussion", thats the one I am not interested in. who gives a fuck about them? Rs need new boogeymen that stick for realz, especially when radical liberal pastor warnock can win in a state like GA. /s
But her emails
Do you not understand the damage those emails have done to America. She could of ended America with those emails, never forget.
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On January 07 2021 09:10 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:53 Liquid`Drone wrote:On January 07 2021 08:48 m4ini wrote:I have no fondness for the efforts to shame you into compliance or whatever it is. It really is not what your country needs right now. I actually entirely disagree here. I don't think people try to force him into compliance, they try to force him to actually reflect. The reason he gets hammered on is despite this entire shit show, he still goes back to whataboutism, talking about how bad Clinton was and how she deserved to lose and whatnot. This "piling on" is entirely of his own making by refusing to accept that trump was a mistake, and that it was ALWAYS obvious. I bet you the second people actually would for a split second believe that he thinks Trump was a mistake (which he doesn't), people would slow down "the pilening". He doesn't think Trump was a mistake against Hillary, but he admitted several pages ago that retrospectively, Trump was a mistake against Biden. .. and it doesn't sound odd to you, at all? "I'm okay with the obviously insane person winning against Hillary, but now that the obviously insane person is losing, now it's a mistake - only that part though"? With everything he's said, why even worry what he thinks? He's just text on a screen. No one benefits from these conversations. I'm sorry. This was always going to happen. People knew BEFORE he was running for president that he's a conman, and living in a different reality. For people a bit slower than the norm, that was immediately obvious straight after the inauguration when he started inventing "facts". Fact is, trump was always a mistake. There's no "degradation" of trumps mind, this is trump being trump. There's no "it's a mistake now, but wasn't back then". edit: to be a bit clearer: claiming the necessity of hindsight in regards to trump is stupid. The only point you're making is that you didn't give a shit beforehand. At best. At worst, you were simply okay with it because it was "your team winning".
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On January 07 2021 09:10 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:53 Liquid`Drone wrote:On January 07 2021 08:48 m4ini wrote:I have no fondness for the efforts to shame you into compliance or whatever it is. It really is not what your country needs right now. I actually entirely disagree here. I don't think people try to force him into compliance, they try to force him to actually reflect. The reason he gets hammered on is despite this entire shit show, he still goes back to whataboutism, talking about how bad Clinton was and how she deserved to lose and whatnot. This "piling on" is entirely of his own making by refusing to accept that trump was a mistake, and that it was ALWAYS obvious. I bet you the second people actually would for a split second believe that he thinks Trump was a mistake (which he doesn't), people would slow down "the pilening". He doesn't think Trump was a mistake against Hillary, but he admitted several pages ago that retrospectively, Trump was a mistake against Biden. .. and it doesn't sound odd to you, at all? "I'm okay with the obviously insane person winning against Hillary, but now that the obviously insane person is losing, now it's a mistake - only that part though"? I'm sorry. This was always going to happen. People knew BEFORE he was running for president that he's a conman, and living in a different reality. For people a bit slower than the norm, that was immediately obvious straight after the inauguration when he started inventing "facts". Fact is, trump was always a mistake. There's no "degradation" of trumps mind, this is trump being trump. There's no "it's a mistake now, but wasn't back then". edit: to be a bit clearer: claiming the necessity of hindsight in regards to trump is stupid. The only point you're making is that you didn't give a shit beforehand. At best. At worst, you were simply okay with it because it was "your team winning".
With everything he's said, why even worry what he thinks? He's just text on a screen. No one benefits from these conversations.
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On January 07 2021 09:10 Nevuk wrote:
Per nbc, Trump's twitter account is locked for 12 hours
Twitter have done an excellent job of integrating their marketing into news content.
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On January 07 2021 09:10 Nevuk wrote:
Per nbc, Trump's twitter account is locked for 12 hours
Well, maybe he gets to use "official" channels instead then to communicate with people.
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On January 07 2021 09:11 Shingi11 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 09:06 Doublemint wrote:
should have clarified, the "Clinton discussion", thats the one I am not interested in. who gives a fuck about them? Rs need new boogeymen that stick for realz, especially when radical liberal pastor warnock can win in a state like GA. /s But her emails Do you not understand the damage those emails have done to America. She could of ended America with those emails, never forget.
I know. solar winds hack was nothing in comparison, think of all the phishing that could have taken place in 33k DELETED EMAILS.
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How bad is it in DC on a scale from ‘no big deal’ to ‘mostly peaceful’?
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One person has been killed. Don't know if you think that is no big deal and can be called mostly peaceful from her perspective.
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I would put the odds over 50% of 25th being discussed right now. Pence with a 2 week presidency would be kind of funny.
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On January 07 2021 09:10 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:53 Liquid`Drone wrote:On January 07 2021 08:48 m4ini wrote:I have no fondness for the efforts to shame you into compliance or whatever it is. It really is not what your country needs right now. I actually entirely disagree here. I don't think people try to force him into compliance, they try to force him to actually reflect. The reason he gets hammered on is despite this entire shit show, he still goes back to whataboutism, talking about how bad Clinton was and how she deserved to lose and whatnot. This "piling on" is entirely of his own making by refusing to accept that trump was a mistake, and that it was ALWAYS obvious. I bet you the second people actually would for a split second believe that he thinks Trump was a mistake (which he doesn't), people would slow down "the pilening". He doesn't think Trump was a mistake against Hillary, but he admitted several pages ago that retrospectively, Trump was a mistake against Biden. .. and it doesn't sound odd to you, at all? "I'm okay with the obviously insane person winning against Hillary, but now that the obviously insane person is losing, now it's a mistake - only that part though"? I'm sorry. This was always going to happen. People knew BEFORE he was running for president that he's a conman, and living in a different reality. For people a bit slower than the norm, that was immediately obvious straight after the inauguration when he started inventing "facts". Fact is, trump was always a mistake. There's no "degradation" of trumps mind, this is trump being trump. There's no "it's a mistake now, but wasn't back then". edit: to be a bit clearer: claiming the necessity of hindsight in regards to trump is stupid. The only point you're making is that you didn't give a shit beforehand. At best. At worst, you were simply okay with it because it was "your team winning".
It's a mistake now because he lost, and that's as far as it goes. Danglars would be happily on the Trump train if he won, because he delivers the results. He's described him as one of the best Republican presidents in history in the past because of his seating of conservative judges on the supreme court. All of the things he supported him for in the past are still there, it's just he's now done exactly what we all knew he would and done something so indefensible in defeat that he has to begrudgingly condemn him. Once. And then go back to deflection and the usual Danglars Shuffle.
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On January 07 2021 09:21 Mohdoo wrote:
I would put the odds over 50% of 25th being discussed right now. Pence with a 2 week presidency would be kind of funny. No idea how reliable this is but
Also apparently Pence went over Trump's head and he was the one who called in the national guard.
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On January 07 2021 09:21 Mohdoo wrote:
I would put the odds over 50% of 25th being discussed right now. Pence with a 2 week presidency would be kind of funny.
Pence order the national guard(?), everyone is saying the president does that????
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On January 07 2021 09:24 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 09:21 Mohdoo wrote:
I would put the odds over 50% of 25th being discussed right now. Pence with a 2 week presidency would be kind of funny. Pence order the national guard(?), everyone is saying the president does that???? Even if he legally cannot, who is going to oppose it and stand with Trump when insurgents are storming the Capitol building?
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