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On January 07 2021 08:30 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:17 Danglars wrote:On January 07 2021 07:56 Doublemint wrote:I foresee something juicy brewing. the fallout from this will WANT Republicans to disentangle from Trump asap - kinda like Danglars (  ) - one can hope for impeachment. interesting will be how the electoral college defectors will be handled. here things are very much in flux. one thing's for certain though. Trump will not go down quietly. motherfucker is a nihilistic narcissist, and oh so sure of himself. I hope for him to do something stupid. so we can have actual fireworks, like Rs going after him by throwing the book at him and him martyring himself and taking the base with him. You guys still hug and kiss Clinton and Abrams and Gillum, so I'm pretty content. Also, who wants to joke about the tame "disentangle" nonsense, when the claim's moved on to fascist enabler or actual fascist? You gotta get with the times, man! And the left's proposing expelling House members by House resolution. Sounds like fun, resist fascism, legislation. playing with democratic norms is not something to take lightly. not everyone is so dead inside that cynical ploys like having a sizeable chunk of Rs not certifiying electoral college votes - checked and rechecked and found to be legitimate - because of fabricated and fake political concerns does not stir them. and if you wanna go there, Clinton was right. what happend today was deplorable. she and many others just saw it earlier. I don't know about taking away seats, but frankly they should be held responsible. you know party of personal responsibility and all.
I'm less worried about the future of the Republican party given these sort of opinions. Democrats objected to electoral results before, capriciously, and hypocrites constantly backpedal now. Clinton did her "basket of deplorables," and deserved to lose, and thankfully did. These are independent of the person of Trump, and as long as Democrats are tied to the people I mentioned, there's a chance of recovery. I don't really think in time for the 2022 election, in terms of fallout, but a good chance by 2024.
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On January 07 2021 08:35 Nevuk wrote:Wow twitter delet d it. Text: Show nested quote +
These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!
I didn't think that there was a superlative of "unhinged", but i guess there is.
I just don't know the term.
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On January 07 2021 08:36 Sadist wrote:
I believe Trump just posted then deleted the following tweet:
@realDonaldTrump
These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!
This claim of election fraud is disputed, and this Tweet can’t be replied to, Retweeted, or liked due to a risk of violence
6:01 PM · Jan 6, 2021
Unfucking real. He is the scum of the earth. I dont know how anyone in his inner circle actually deals with him on a daily basis. It would be exhausting.
Twitter deleted it. They finally found their red line.
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On January 07 2021 08:37 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:30 Doublemint wrote:On January 07 2021 08:17 Danglars wrote:On January 07 2021 07:56 Doublemint wrote:I foresee something juicy brewing. the fallout from this will WANT Republicans to disentangle from Trump asap - kinda like Danglars ( ) - one can hope for impeachment. interesting will be how the electoral college defectors will be handled. here things are very much in flux. one thing's for certain though. Trump will not go down quietly. motherfucker is a nihilistic narcissist, and oh so sure of himself. I hope for him to do something stupid. so we can have actual fireworks, like Rs going after him by throwing the book at him and him martyring himself and taking the base with him. You guys still hug and kiss Clinton and Abrams and Gillum, so I'm pretty content. Also, who wants to joke about the tame "disentangle" nonsense, when the claim's moved on to fascist enabler or actual fascist? You gotta get with the times, man! And the left's proposing expelling House members by House resolution. Sounds like fun, resist fascism, legislation. https://twitter.com/RepCori/status/1346926083350794240 playing with democratic norms is not something to take lightly. not everyone is so dead inside that cynical ploys like having a sizeable chunk of Rs not certifiying electoral college votes - checked and rechecked and found to be legitimate - because of fabricated and fake political concerns does not stir them. and if you wanna go there, Clinton was right. what happend today was deplorable. she and many others just saw it earlier. I don't know about taking away seats, but frankly they should be held responsible. you know party of personal responsibility and all. I'm less worried about the future of the Republican party given these sort of opinions. Democrats objected to electoral results before, capriciously, and hypocrites constantly backpedal now. Clinton did her "basket of deplorables," and deserved to lose, and thankfully did. These are independent of the person of Trump, and as long as Democrats are tied to the people I mentioned, there's a chance of recovery. I don't really think in time for the 2022 election, in terms of fallout, but a good chance by 2024.
I still find the basket of deplorables fascinating because that paragraph literally included a sentence about how there are tons of people supporting Trump with legitimate grievances. But context only matters for Republicans.
On January 07 2021 08:38 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:36 Sadist wrote:
I believe Trump just posted then deleted the following tweet:
@realDonaldTrump
These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!
This claim of election fraud is disputed, and this Tweet can’t be replied to, Retweeted, or liked due to a risk of violence
6:01 PM · Jan 6, 2021
Unfucking real. He is the scum of the earth. I dont know how anyone in his inner circle actually deals with him on a daily basis. It would be exhausting. Twitter deleted it. They finally found their red line.
Apparently they wiped one of his Pence tweets as well.
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On January 07 2021 08:28 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:20 WombaT wrote:
Specifically within the confines of this thread who is hugging and kissing Clinton, Abrams and Gollum? This is probably gonna distract from the topic, but here's the TL search. If this stuff calms down and you're still interested, let me know. If anything else in the post was interesting, quote and respond to it.
I shall peruse at my leisure, I’m relying on an increasingly faulty memory these days.
As per this motion, it’s a lot like pornography in that it’s difficult to legally define but I know it when I see it to butcher a quote.
Aside from being tricky to prove some causal link, I’m not sure of the wisdom pragmatically of further inflaming things right now.
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On January 07 2021 08:38 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 07:12 zeo wrote:On January 07 2021 07:00 Dan HH wrote:On January 07 2021 06:46 Broetchenholer wrote:
Classic. Now that the support of the President ended exactly how the snowflakes feared it would, GOP senators, congressman and forum representatives start telling that doing what the man they supported through all that shit is wrong and claim law and order while dodging any responsibiliy for this. Yeah I expect they'll just throw Trump under the bus and go back to pretending they have values, as if he could have done any of this without the spineless sycophancy of non true believers. Trump and his administration have been spineless pussies throughout his term. He should have known that they would steal the election and should fought them tooth an nail every single step of the way BEFORE the election. Its too late now to grow a spine, they let down the entire country and let the election get stolen. Kicking out party members will only split the Republican party, they all know that a splinter party will emerge and it will swallow the GOP whole. A lot more people voted for Trump rather than the Republican party. In any case the Republican Party as a whole shit the bed on this one You do know that Trump lost the election by millions of votes, he didn't have the election stolen from him, he is trying to steal it for him. You get this or no?
Jews. Jews and manipulated voting machines. Also, ballots. All of them fake. The ones that weren't, shredded. Every single one.
He won this "sacred landslide election". You're fake news.
I'm not entirely certain why people entertain zeo of all people. He's basically what you'd imagine a wegandaunt to be.
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Pelosi says they'll continue the count once the building is secured
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Norway28558 Posts
On January 07 2021 08:22 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 06:50 Liquid`Drone wrote:
tbh, I would have been curious to see xdaunt's response to post-election Trump. Now people have to declare me combative and all that because they miss their favorite punching bag. Yeah, I would've appreciated hearing his thoughts, but it is pretty rich hearing it said from someone in admin.
I don't really see any discrepancy between thinking someone could've had an interesting opinion on topic x and thinking that same person had no interest in being a part of our community and for that reason became toxic to the point where keeping him around was pointless. I did support the ban of xdaunt, but it was less because of his political opinions (I've fairly consistently argued for keeping multiple points of view around and I've also fairly consistently defended you) and more because he didn't seem to want to post in a civil manner at all. There's very little I agree with you politically on, but I still want to have you around, and I have no fondness for the efforts to shame you into compliance or whatever it is. It really is not what your country needs right now.
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On January 07 2021 08:35 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +And the left's proposing expelling House members by House resolution. Sounds like fun, resist fascism, legislation.
Brandenburg vs Ohio, my man. Inciting violence/terrorism is a crime, even in the US. Not always, but in this case it indeed would be. Interesting to see that a "republican" (you know, the "law and order guys") argues it'd be fascism to expel people who potentially committed a felony. Incitement to riot is also against federal law. But, here's a different idea. Don't remove them. Just prosecute them. Immediately.
At the end of the Civil War, we also disqualified most Confederate leaders and military officials from holding public office. I think inciting a violent coup on our nation should be treated the same. If you fanned the flames of hysteria and disproven conspiracy theories to the point that your own followers stormed the nation's capital in hopes of overturning the results of a free and fair election, then you deserve to be removed from your position of public office.
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On January 07 2021 08:43 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:35 m4ini wrote:And the left's proposing expelling House members by House resolution. Sounds like fun, resist fascism, legislation.
Brandenburg vs Ohio, my man. Inciting violence/terrorism is a crime, even in the US. Not always, but in this case it indeed would be. Interesting to see that a "republican" (you know, the "law and order guys") argues it'd be fascism to expel people who potentially committed a felony. Incitement to riot is also against federal law. But, here's a different idea. Don't remove them. Just prosecute them. Immediately. At the end of the Civil War, we also disqualified most Confederate leaders and military officials from holding public office. I think inciting a violent coup on our nation should be treated the same. If you fanned the flames of hysteria and disproven conspiracy theories to the point that your own followers stormed the nation's capital in hopes of overturning the results of a free and fair election, then you deserve to be removed from your position of public office. Exactly, no need to take the seat away from Republicans, let them appoint someone else. But these people need to suffer the consequences of their actions.
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I have no fondness for the efforts to shame you into compliance or whatever it is. It really is not what your country needs right now.
I actually entirely disagree here. I don't think people try to force him into compliance, they try to force him to actually reflect. The reason he gets hammered on is despite this entire shit show, he still goes back to whataboutism, talking about how bad Clinton was and how she deserved to lose and whatnot.
This "piling on" is entirely of his own making by refusing to accept that trump was a mistake, and that it was ALWAYS obvious.
I bet you the second people actually would for a split second believe that he thinks Trump was a mistake (which he doesn't), people would slow down "the pilening".
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A colleague had the time to screenshot the tweet :
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/mUVhzua.jpg)
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I wonder about the situation in Pennsylvania in light of today. Will state Republican Senators keep trying to deny a Democrat senator that won his election and was certified from being sworn in or will they all try really hard to pretend like they didn't actually stage a coup yesterday?
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On January 07 2021 08:51 Gorsameth wrote:
I wonder about the situation in Pennsylvania in light of today. Will state Republican Senators keep trying to deny a Democrat senator that won his election and was certified from being sworn in or will they all try really hard to pretend like they didn't actually stage a coup yesterday?
They'll appeal to the "process of investigation" and then just seat them later quietly after this.
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Norway28558 Posts
On January 07 2021 08:48 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +I have no fondness for the efforts to shame you into compliance or whatever it is. It really is not what your country needs right now. I actually entirely disagree here. I don't think people try to force him into compliance, they try to force him to actually reflect. The reason he gets hammered on is despite this entire shit show, he still goes back to whataboutism, talking about how bad Clinton was and how she deserved to lose and whatnot. This "piling on" is entirely of his own making by refusing to accept that trump was a mistake, and that it was ALWAYS obvious. I bet you the second people actually would for a split second believe that he thinks Trump was a mistake (which he doesn't), people would slow down "the pilening".
He doesn't think Trump was a mistake against Hillary, but he admitted several pages ago that retrospectively, Trump was a mistake against Biden.
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I'm reading some people say that Pence was the one who sent the national guard : not Trump. Not seeing any official reporting yet though.
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On January 07 2021 08:37 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:30 Doublemint wrote:On January 07 2021 08:17 Danglars wrote:On January 07 2021 07:56 Doublemint wrote:I foresee something juicy brewing. the fallout from this will WANT Republicans to disentangle from Trump asap - kinda like Danglars ( ) - one can hope for impeachment. interesting will be how the electoral college defectors will be handled. here things are very much in flux. one thing's for certain though. Trump will not go down quietly. motherfucker is a nihilistic narcissist, and oh so sure of himself. I hope for him to do something stupid. so we can have actual fireworks, like Rs going after him by throwing the book at him and him martyring himself and taking the base with him. You guys still hug and kiss Clinton and Abrams and Gillum, so I'm pretty content. Also, who wants to joke about the tame "disentangle" nonsense, when the claim's moved on to fascist enabler or actual fascist? You gotta get with the times, man! And the left's proposing expelling House members by House resolution. Sounds like fun, resist fascism, legislation. https://twitter.com/RepCori/status/1346926083350794240 playing with democratic norms is not something to take lightly. not everyone is so dead inside that cynical ploys like having a sizeable chunk of Rs not certifiying electoral college votes - checked and rechecked and found to be legitimate - because of fabricated and fake political concerns does not stir them. and if you wanna go there, Clinton was right. what happend today was deplorable. she and many others just saw it earlier. I don't know about taking away seats, but frankly they should be held responsible. you know party of personal responsibility and all. I'm less worried about the future of the Republican party given these sort of opinions. Democrats objected to electoral results before, capriciously, and hypocrites constantly backpedal now. Clinton did her "basket of deplorables," and deserved to lose, and thankfully did. These are independent of the person of Trump, and as long as Democrats are tied to the people I mentioned, there's a chance of recovery. I don't really think in time for the 2022 election, in terms of fallout, but a good chance by 2024.
to my knowledge nothing Dems did even comes close and nothing went as far as the bullshit spouted and actively purported by Rs in trying to overturn the election. having a problem with the electoral college, sure. and so what? if the ec victory does not reflect the majorities will and this discrepancy gets bigger cycle after cyle that's not a concern? with millions more votes you lose an election - in what world does that make sense?
I guess perfect sense as long as you stay in power and claim state's rights.
I don't care on eota for the Clintons, though that deplorables comment was spot on. you using the attack talking point created by the RNC/FOX attack machine by cutting it short does not make it wrong.
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” but alas I digress, I am not interest in furthering this fruitless discussion.
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On January 07 2021 08:52 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:51 Gorsameth wrote:
I wonder about the situation in Pennsylvania in light of today. Will state Republican Senators keep trying to deny a Democrat senator that won his election and was certified from being sworn in or will they all try really hard to pretend like they didn't actually stage a coup yesterday? They'll appeal to the "process of investigation" and then just seat them later quietly after this.
Look at states where Republicans get kicked out. They do everything they can to strip voters of there power. I think they will just be emboldened now that they know they have a group that supports them. I think it is folly to think the days of Republicans peacefully giving up power is ever coming back.
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On January 07 2021 08:43 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2021 08:22 Danglars wrote:On January 07 2021 06:50 Liquid`Drone wrote:
tbh, I would have been curious to see xdaunt's response to post-election Trump. Now people have to declare me combative and all that because they miss their favorite punching bag. Yeah, I would've appreciated hearing his thoughts, but it is pretty rich hearing it said from someone in admin. I don't really see any discrepancy between thinking someone could've had an interesting opinion on topic x and thinking that same person had no interest in being a part of our community and for that reason became toxic to the point where keeping him around was pointless. I did support the ban of xdaunt, but it was less because of his political opinions (I've fairly consistently argued for keeping multiple points of view around and I've also fairly consistently defended you) and more because he didn't seem to want to post in a civil manner at all. There's very little I agree with you politically on, but I still want to have you around, and I have no fondness for the efforts to shame you into compliance or whatever it is. It really is not what your country needs right now.
I dislike hearing the problem was his lack of a civil manner, when today featured posters saying I personally wanted a violent riot on the capitol and a member of your moderation team calling me a "spineless Quisling" today. I can grant you the perspective that you aren't looking favorably on such things, but you're still a part of the team that imposes different rules for different ideological points of views. I just don't think what you wish to be true stands up to the test of time. Call it a blind eye to toxicity. I've just chosen to cease responding to certain shitposters at almost all times simply because of their conduct in the forum.
I'd be lying if I didn't add that this was mixed up in almost every single poster in my side of the political aisle being banned or stopping posting regularly over the course of the ~10 years with you guys.
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