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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
April 03 2020 21:12 GMT
#44561
Gamestop's got pulled in PA when they tried to stay open a while back.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-03 21:40:03
April 03 2020 21:38 GMT
#44562
LOL Trump just said CDC now recommends cloth (not medical) masks in public, but it's all voluntary, it's only a recommendation and 'I'm not gonna do it' while making a face like: these CDC guys are nuts who's gonna wear a cloth mask

Powerful leadership
Neosteel Enthusiast
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-03 21:41:25
April 03 2020 21:40 GMT
#44563
I have not regretted my decision to actively avoid those pressers, second hand descriptions are more than enough to give me a sense of what is said lol
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-03 22:31:36
April 03 2020 22:26 GMT
#44564
The discussion about Kushner's comments that the federal stockpile is 'our stockpile and not supposed to be state stockpile' is also hilarious (ly sad)

First of all they changed the stockpile website just now to Kushners definition of the stockpile and not what it was earlier 'for use in emergency when local supplies run out'

Female reporter now asks Trump what on earth 'our' would mean if not the states. He goes 'ohh such nasty question, you should be ashamed, 'our' means our country'
'so...the states'
'no its for the united states of america'
'...'
'We need to keep some for the federal government'

edit: now some other reporter asked a second time, and now he basically said it is all for the states. Weird discussion.
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9206 Posts
April 03 2020 22:55 GMT
#44565
On April 04 2020 07:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The discussion about Kushner's comments that the federal stockpile is 'our stockpile and not supposed to be state stockpile' is also hilarious (ly sad)

First of all they changed the stockpile website just now to Kushners definition of the stockpile and not what it was earlier 'for use in emergency when local supplies run out'

Female reporter now asks Trump what on earth 'our' would mean if not the states. He goes 'ohh such nasty question, you should be ashamed, 'our' means our country'
'so...the states'
'no its for the united states of america'
'...'
'We need to keep some for the federal government'

edit: now some other reporter asked a second time, and now he basically said it is all for the states. Weird discussion.

I'm really confused as to why he keeps inserting himself into issues he has zero relevant qualifications to deal with. IIRC last year he thought he was the guy to solve the Israel-Palestine conflict because he read a couple of books about it? I can't wrap my head around that level of hubris, to think that your hours of research are somehow more fruitful than the decades put in by others in a particular niche.
EllisDee
Profile Joined April 2020
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-03 23:28:12
April 03 2020 23:10 GMT
#44566
Trump constantly admonishing the States for being unprepared in these press conferences leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

Waiting for Canada to follow our Big Brother on the mask recommendation.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 04 2020 00:18 GMT
#44567
Attack on the state is the issue. States that don’t want to play have the biggest power over him. It’s literally the last resort before we just become a full dictatorship.
Life?
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
April 04 2020 00:27 GMT
#44568
After bidding wars over respirators between the states, other states and the federal government and now a stockpile that is for everyone but the states... How united are the United States of America? I've seen many people celebrate Trump's honesty and that he doesn't care to rub others the wrong way... But wouldn't it be about time to be a little bit presidential right now?
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-04 04:35:12
April 04 2020 04:10 GMT
#44569
I'm noticing a trend where any female reporter trying to hold Trump accountable is asking "nasty questions". Sexist negging and gaslighting while bucking responsibility and dodging questions. A masterclass in classic Trump fuckery.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8074 Posts
April 04 2020 08:18 GMT
#44570
On April 04 2020 07:55 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2020 07:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The discussion about Kushner's comments that the federal stockpile is 'our stockpile and not supposed to be state stockpile' is also hilarious (ly sad)

First of all they changed the stockpile website just now to Kushners definition of the stockpile and not what it was earlier 'for use in emergency when local supplies run out'

Female reporter now asks Trump what on earth 'our' would mean if not the states. He goes 'ohh such nasty question, you should be ashamed, 'our' means our country'
'so...the states'
'no its for the united states of america'
'...'
'We need to keep some for the federal government'

edit: now some other reporter asked a second time, and now he basically said it is all for the states. Weird discussion.

I'm really confused as to why he keeps inserting himself into issues he has zero relevant qualifications to deal with. IIRC last year he thought he was the guy to solve the Israel-Palestine conflict because he read a couple of books about it? I can't wrap my head around that level of hubris, to think that your hours of research are somehow more fruitful than the decades put in by others in a particular niche.

The guy is a living allegory of the Dunnig Kruger effect. It's amazing anyone can be so arrogant having achieved so little.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23930 Posts
April 04 2020 16:00 GMT
#44571
~30 million people may be losing their private insurance over the next months



This officially kills the "you're going to take private healthcare away from people" part of the bipartisan opposition to Medicare for All now right?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-04 16:10:12
April 04 2020 16:08 GMT
#44572
On April 04 2020 06:38 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
LOL Trump just said CDC now recommends cloth (not medical) masks in public, but it's all voluntary, it's only a recommendation and 'I'm not gonna do it' while making a face like: these CDC guys are nuts who's gonna wear a cloth mask

Powerful leadership


And half of the country would assume you were being serious with that end note.

On April 04 2020 07:55 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2020 07:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The discussion about Kushner's comments that the federal stockpile is 'our stockpile and not supposed to be state stockpile' is also hilarious (ly sad)

First of all they changed the stockpile website just now to Kushners definition of the stockpile and not what it was earlier 'for use in emergency when local supplies run out'

Female reporter now asks Trump what on earth 'our' would mean if not the states. He goes 'ohh such nasty question, you should be ashamed, 'our' means our country'
'so...the states'
'no its for the united states of america'
'...'
'We need to keep some for the federal government'

edit: now some other reporter asked a second time, and now he basically said it is all for the states. Weird discussion.

I'm really confused as to why he keeps inserting himself into issues he has zero relevant qualifications to deal with. IIRC last year he thought he was the guy to solve the Israel-Palestine conflict because he read a couple of books about it? I can't wrap my head around that level of hubris, to think that your hours of research are somehow more fruitful than the decades put in by others in a particular niche.


In fairness - while I agree this would be an improvement - that would mean he never speaks out on any issue ever.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 04 2020 16:35 GMT
#44573
On April 05 2020 01:08 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2020 06:38 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
LOL Trump just said CDC now recommends cloth (not medical) masks in public, but it's all voluntary, it's only a recommendation and 'I'm not gonna do it' while making a face like: these CDC guys are nuts who's gonna wear a cloth mask

Powerful leadership


And half of the country would assume you were being serious with that end note.

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2020 07:55 Dan HH wrote:
On April 04 2020 07:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The discussion about Kushner's comments that the federal stockpile is 'our stockpile and not supposed to be state stockpile' is also hilarious (ly sad)

First of all they changed the stockpile website just now to Kushners definition of the stockpile and not what it was earlier 'for use in emergency when local supplies run out'

Female reporter now asks Trump what on earth 'our' would mean if not the states. He goes 'ohh such nasty question, you should be ashamed, 'our' means our country'
'so...the states'
'no its for the united states of america'
'...'
'We need to keep some for the federal government'

edit: now some other reporter asked a second time, and now he basically said it is all for the states. Weird discussion.

I'm really confused as to why he keeps inserting himself into issues he has zero relevant qualifications to deal with. IIRC last year he thought he was the guy to solve the Israel-Palestine conflict because he read a couple of books about it? I can't wrap my head around that level of hubris, to think that your hours of research are somehow more fruitful than the decades put in by others in a particular niche.


In fairness - while I agree this would be an improvement - that would mean he never speaks out on any issue ever.


Would this really be a bad thing though? He is the president's son. Not some actual political figure.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9206 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-04 17:28:08
April 04 2020 17:27 GMT
#44574
On April 05 2020 01:08 iamthedave wrote:
In fairness - while I agree this would be an improvement - that would mean he never speaks out on any issue ever.

This isn't about speaking, it's about the official roles he's joining on task forces. If Megadeth asked you to fill in for their drummer would you say "ask an actual drummer" or "sure thing, lemme just watch some youtube tutorials on how to hold a stick"?
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
April 04 2020 17:28 GMT
#44575
On April 05 2020 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
~30 million people may be losing their private insurance over the next months

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1246118093350469633

This officially kills the "you're going to take private healthcare away from people" part of the bipartisan opposition to Medicare for All now right?


Not really because I don't think there's any Democrat who opposes offering universal health insurance to anyone who needs or wants it. The issue of the argument is to not eliminate private insurance for people who want to keep it.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23930 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-04 17:48:28
April 04 2020 17:39 GMT
#44576
On April 05 2020 02:28 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
~30 million people may be losing their private insurance over the next months

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1246118093350469633

This officially kills the "you're going to take private healthcare away from people" part of the bipartisan opposition to Medicare for All now right?


Not really because I don't think there's any Democrat who opposes offering universal health insurance to anyone who needs or wants it. The issue of the argument is to not eliminate private insurance for people who want to keep it.


I mean obviously there are or it would have passed when they had total control under Obama. Hillary wouldn't have said it would never ever happen, and Biden wouldn't be arguing against it based on cost.

The idea that people want to keep their private insurer is based off a desire to maintain preferential treatment over others no matter how you slice it though from my perspective.

EDIT: Also no one wants universal/"affordable" insurance, people want universal care.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 04 2020 17:48 GMT
#44577
I feel like until Bernie, Biden and Trump all recover from Corona, we have zero idea what November looks like. Super weird. They could all die. Or none of them.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
April 04 2020 18:01 GMT
#44578
On April 05 2020 02:48 Mohdoo wrote:
I feel like until Bernie, Biden and Trump all recover from Corona, we have zero idea what November looks like. Super weird. They could all die. Or none of them.


No way they die, they’re all guaranteed top notch medical care, Id be unbelievably surprised if they died, in spite of their old age.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-04 18:12:14
April 04 2020 18:11 GMT
#44579
On April 05 2020 03:01 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 02:48 Mohdoo wrote:
I feel like until Bernie, Biden and Trump all recover from Corona, we have zero idea what November looks like. Super weird. They could all die. Or none of them.


No way they die, they’re all guaranteed top notch medical care, Id be unbelievably surprised if they died, in spite of their old age.

Doesn't really matter at those ages. Medical care is better, but even with it there's still a 20% chance they die at their age. There's a reason that when they entered triage in Italy one of the groups they stopped treating was >60 - there's no guarantee even the best medical care would save them.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
April 04 2020 18:57 GMT
#44580
On April 05 2020 02:27 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2020 01:08 iamthedave wrote:
In fairness - while I agree this would be an improvement - that would mean he never speaks out on any issue ever.

This isn't about speaking, it's about the official roles he's joining on task forces. If Megadeth asked you to fill in for their drummer would you say "ask an actual drummer" or "sure thing, lemme just watch some youtube tutorials on how to hold a stick"?


Isn't that pretty close to what happened with Shawn Drover? I mean, he was clearly a drummer, but he'd never played in any close to Megadeth scale before and then was on some major tour right away. I read some interview from him about almost fainting or something when he saw the crowd.
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