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On November 10 2026 06:58 dyhb wrote:
I have absolutely zero doubt that 2028 will have the same sensationalist news stories about how the Republicans are going to steal the election, and the Simbertos and DarkPlasmaBalls of the world will say "Remember 2020?"
***might try***, yes. Sensationalist, no. Because we have better memory than goldfish.
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The one bonus is people, including dyhb, can stop pretending he’s not MAGA.
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holy, Andrew Sullivan went completely ham on Trump. and I could not agree more.
just the last part:
The only way for you to survive politically is to adapt the way Obama did after 2010 and Clinton did after 1994. But you can’t adapt; you can’t change; it’s your defining feature. Which the Miller pick proves. So it will be hell for you, trust me. All the fun is entirely in the rear-view mirror. You’ve lost most of your fan base. Your own vice president just disowned you; every wannabe successor is going to distance from you. The factions you are clinging to — the AIPAC loonies and the AI enablers — are fading fast in public esteem, and loathed by your voters. The Democrats have you on the run, and will relish every second of it. If they can get out of their own way, as they just did, you’re finished.
So do the sane thing and quit. It’s not impossible. A president who lost the country as profoundly as you have did it within our lifetimes. Heck, even a Pope resigned. Get out, go back to Florida, rollick in the billions you have fleeced from public service, get the whores you miss, and wallow in the undying bubble of adulation you require. Declare the last two years “the greatest two years in the history of the presidency,” as you did this week, with ever-more-demented poignancy — and leave.
You’ve destroyed your party, molested the Constitution, turbo-charged the debt, laid waste to our allies, and empowered our enemies. Your legitimacy is over. Your cult is in the Kool-Aid phase. You can spend the next two years in an ever-deepening cycle of political reckoning and disgrace, or you can spare yourself — and us! — the ordeal.
In the immortal words of Oliver Cromwell,
You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you.
In the name of God, go!
too bad he of course won't oblige.
@dyhb
must be TrumpDerangementSyndrome...
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On November 10 2026 07:12 Billyboy wrote:
The one bonus is people, including dyhb, can stop pretending he’s not MAGA.
Yeah, dyhb's perspective seems to be "moderate Democrat / centrist" half of the time, and "pro-Trump apologist" the other half of the time (like right now in this conversation about enabling Trump's cheating).
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Apparently Alaska releases not just the vote tallies but also the ranked priority tallies which makes it possible to simulate where things stand post elimination of minor candidates. Weirdly most Dan Jr voters were Democrat trolls rather than confused Republicans, their second choices are D over R by 20 percentage points. Looking good from that. However the other candidate, Heikes, is breaking R on the second choices 75/25. Real Dan is currently winning the election by about 70 votes.
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On November 10 2026 07:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2026 07:12 Billyboy wrote:
The one bonus is people, including dyhb, can stop pretending he’s not MAGA.
Yeah, dyhb's perspective seems to be "moderate Democrat / centrist" half of the time, and "pro-Trump apologist" the other half of the time (like right now in this conversation about enabling Trump's cheating).
I’d say he self identifies has a moderate Democrat but his points are almost always MAGA or Republican.
At any rate, the most frustrating part of reading his posts is how he actively changes people’s points and name drops them as if they agree with his obviously inaccurate version of the original posters point. No one makes this amount of “mistakes” accidentally and it’s and extremely frustrating and unproductive way of discussing anything.
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On November 10 2026 07:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2026 07:12 Billyboy wrote:
The one bonus is people, including dyhb, can stop pretending he’s not MAGA.
Yeah, dyhb's perspective seems to be "moderate Democrat / centrist" half of the time, and "pro-Trump apologist" the other half of the time (like right now in this conversation about enabling Trump's cheating).
Have you ever met a moderate Democrat that had extremely powerful feelings about using the word "ephebophile" when appropriate?
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We're heading into historic majorities, and even in this case we can't agree about the sensationalist and very poor stories about 2026 election rigging were actually just that.
We can agree that Trump attempted to steal the 2020 election through a false electors scheme, but we will never agree that the 100th time repeating that is an excuse to turn off your brain while looking at news reports in 2026. I am sad that so many are, and it makes me a bit dispirited when thinking about what Democrats can do with that majority.
It is entirely predictable that the same crop of "This is how Trump plans to steal the 2028 Election" is going to have zero critical examination. Anybody that points this out is going to be bogged down in, "What do you mean, we know he tried to do it in 2020!" Like that mantra says anything. It overshadows the stability of America's electoral institutions, and its court structure. Which, apparently, a lot of people shit on successes because they're too focused on maintaining their grievance or whatever this is.
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On November 10 2026 07:21 Billyboy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2026 07:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 10 2026 07:12 Billyboy wrote:
The one bonus is people, including dyhb, can stop pretending he’s not MAGA.
Yeah, dyhb's perspective seems to be "moderate Democrat / centrist" half of the time, and "pro-Trump apologist" the other half of the time (like right now in this conversation about enabling Trump's cheating). I’d say he self identifies has a moderate Democrat but his points are almost always MAGA or Republican. At any rate, the most frustrating part of reading his posts is how he actively changes people’s points and name drops them as if they agree with his obviously inaccurate version of the original posters point. No one makes this amount of “mistakes” accidentally and it’s and extremely frustrating and unproductive way of discussing anything.
It doesn't really what he identifies as politically. For example, there are plenty of fascists who will swear they are not fascists.
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On November 10 2026 07:12 Doublemint wrote:too bad he of course won't oblige.
@dyhb
must be TrumpDerangementSyndrome...
That's a hackneyed phrase and obviously used maliciously by Trump himself. What would be the actual description of CISA hacking or foreign election observers as proof that Trump tried (and failed) to rig the 2026 election? The transition to 2020 is obviously deflection like somebody asked for the history or whether somebody thinks Trump won't ever try again. I think honest readers of my posts to Liquid`Drone know that I said he's right on compassion for people's fear and anxiety. It just needs that other half on the strength of the institutions. Obviously I'm still celebrating the outcome even if it swept some bad progressive candidates into office, and marks some good Article 1 checks on power.
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why argue for something that might or might not happen in 2028... this is plain stupid and unproductive and wholly insufficient to take a victory lap in advance.
Trump is a crook and a criminal and most undeserving of trust even among his political peers in the swamp that is D.C.
he obviously failed in his schemes, for instance even a stacked Supreme Court rejected "making mail-in voting honest".
again, maybe don't take victory laps just yet. until the new Congress is in... vigilance is the name of the game.
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On November 10 2026 07:07 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2026 06:41 Geiko wrote:
Trump : urges his supporters to "cheat like hell" and vote even if they are not registered.
Normal people on TL : "we're worried Trump might try to rig the elections"
Dyhb : "you guys are really paranoid" “I have directed the justice department to block Alaska from certifying the results if Senator Sullivan does not win” “I personally gave that order” But sure, setting aside Trump’s explanation that he was doing it there’s just no evidence that he’s doing it.
See, the DOJ has no role in this at all. You can't even get it of the gate. It's very similar to 2020 actually.
BTW unless it changed second choice for fake Dan in AK was acturlly just blank. Peltola was 3rd which has a reasonable explanation, but her being second isn't even true unless that has changed in the last 24 hours
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On November 10 2026 08:04 Doublemint wrote:why argue for something that might or might not happen in 2028... this is plain stupid and unproductive and wholly insufficient to take a victory lap in advance. Trump is a crook and a criminal and most undeserving of trust even among his political peers in the swamp that is D.C. he obviously failed in his schemes, for instance even a stacked Supreme Court rejected "making mail-in voting honest". again, maybe don't take victory laps just yet. until the new Congress is in... vigilance is the name of the game. This election had the same sensational stories with poor sourcing and full of insinuation that I'm expecting in 2028. The reaction was bad and is bad this year. There is high resistance to accurately sizing them up as clickbait for a type of progressive with motivated reasoning (see previous posts), and a stubborn insistence that referring to 2020 settled the issue. Two pages of discussion that avoids 2026 and implies that questioning the Democratic election rigging stories denies 2020 and is MAGA. Kinda hilarious when you look back at those two pages. Like I said, it's either bad faith while knowing it's bad faith, or some kind of brain-dead groupthink. I'm not the Democrat that turns off his brain reading about how 2026 was going to be rigged and this is how, but I'm surprised at the quantity that hit the off switch. Again, it's hard to turn down these idiots votes (plenty of them in the coalition) but damn they're talkative. Maybe the best part is talking about the resilience of the system, like all these theories getting smashed down by courts in short order, and then the insane person's transition from resilience of the system = denial that 2020 happened.
I think it's a little more funny than it is sad, but it's easier to laugh at this group amid a win.
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I'm declaring Poe's Law here.
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