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On July 09 2019 05:08 Artisreal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 04:26 xDaunt wrote:On July 09 2019 04:19 Simberto wrote:
So, i just read up on the Epstein background because i was so confused. Due to the certainty with which everyone spoke of the stuff Epstein had done, i was under the impression that he was already in prison, so i was really confused when he suddently got arrested. So i read stuff.
Everything you can read about Epstein is disgusting and shows how corrupt the US justice system is. We have a person who is a serial abuser of underage girls, everyone knows it, and he just gets away with it because he is rich and knows people. Just reading about it makes me incredibly angry. Why does that piece of shit get a plea deal that means he is immune to prosecution, and for the single case that he ends up spending time in prison, he goes to a luxury prison where he can hire his own guards. What the fuck is that shit?
How can you explain any of that to the people and there is not a revolt? There is not even any doubt that he did the things he is accused of, but he just gets away because he is rich and has powerful friends. There is simply no shame on behalf of the people who let him get away with it. It is disgusting, and people should be far more angry about it then they seem to be. Maybe i am just late to the party here because i just found out about it, and all the anger turned to resignation for other people already. But still...the whole thing is just so incredibly and obviously corrupt. Apparently one of the reasons why Epstein skated in 2008 was a deal that he cut with the FBI to provide information on something. As just an FYI, Mueller was the director back then. in what context is this fyi you added important?
I just think that it's a potentially interesting fact. It could be neither here nor there. If you follow all of the names across the various scandals on the left side of the aisle (or perhaps it's more fair to say the "swamp side of the aisle"), what you notice is that the same names keep popping up. I'm generally not one for conspiracy theories, but I do pay attention.
Speaking of which, take a look at this paragraph from the DOJ's detention memo to the judge in the Epstein case:
Finally, despite having been previously convicted of a sex offense involving an underage victim, the defendant has continued to maintain a vast trove of lewd photographs of young-looking women or girls in his Manhattan mansion. In a search of the New York Residence on the night of his arrest, on July 6-7, 2019, pursuant to judicially-authorized warrants, law enforcement officers discovered not only specific evidence consistent with victim recollections of the inside of the mansion, further strengthening the evidence of the conduct charged in the Indictment, but also at least hundreds—and perhaps thousands—of sexually suggestive photographs of fully- or partially-nude females. While these items were only seized this weekend and are still being reviewed, some of the nude or partially-nude photographs appear to be of underage girls, including at least one girl who, according to her counsel, was underage at the time the relevant photographs were taken. Additionally, some of the photographs referenced herein were discovered in a locked safe, in which law enforcement officers also found compact discs with hand-written labels including the following: “Young [Name] + [Name],” “Misc nudes 1,” and “Girl pics nude.” The defendant, a registered sex offender, is not reformed, he is not chastened, he is not repentant; rather, he is a continuing danger to the community and an individual who faces devastating evidence supporting deeply serious charges.
Source, p. 9.
"Young [Name] + [Name]." Perhaps this means that Epstein had a stash of photographs of various [important] persons doing illegal things with children? Perhaps the Fed seized a massive load of blackmail materials from Epstein? If you have any familiarity with Epstein's social circle and who is in it (and especially who visited his island), the importance of this sentence and the magnitude of the shitstorm that it portends become quite apparent.
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On July 09 2019 05:24 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 05:08 Artisreal wrote:On July 09 2019 04:26 xDaunt wrote:On July 09 2019 04:19 Simberto wrote:
So, i just read up on the Epstein background because i was so confused. Due to the certainty with which everyone spoke of the stuff Epstein had done, i was under the impression that he was already in prison, so i was really confused when he suddently got arrested. So i read stuff.
Everything you can read about Epstein is disgusting and shows how corrupt the US justice system is. We have a person who is a serial abuser of underage girls, everyone knows it, and he just gets away with it because he is rich and knows people. Just reading about it makes me incredibly angry. Why does that piece of shit get a plea deal that means he is immune to prosecution, and for the single case that he ends up spending time in prison, he goes to a luxury prison where he can hire his own guards. What the fuck is that shit?
How can you explain any of that to the people and there is not a revolt? There is not even any doubt that he did the things he is accused of, but he just gets away because he is rich and has powerful friends. There is simply no shame on behalf of the people who let him get away with it. It is disgusting, and people should be far more angry about it then they seem to be. Maybe i am just late to the party here because i just found out about it, and all the anger turned to resignation for other people already. But still...the whole thing is just so incredibly and obviously corrupt. Apparently one of the reasons why Epstein skated in 2008 was a deal that he cut with the FBI to provide information on something. As just an FYI, Mueller was the director back then. in what context is this fyi you added important? I just think that it's a potentially interesting fact. It could be neither here nor there. If you follow all of the names across the various scandals on the left side of the aisle (or perhaps it's more fair to say the "swamp side of the aisle"), what you notice is that the same names keep popping up. I'm generally not one for conspiracy theories, but I do pay attention. Speaking of which, take a look at this paragraph from the DOJ's detention memo to the judge in the Epstein case: Show nested quote +Finally, despite having been previously convicted of a sex offense involving an underage victim, the defendant has continued to maintain a vast trove of lewd photographs of young-looking women or girls in his Manhattan mansion. In a search of the New York Residence on the night of his arrest, on July 6-7, 2019, pursuant to judicially-authorized warrants, law enforcement officers discovered not only specific evidence consistent with victim recollections of the inside of the mansion, further strengthening the evidence of the conduct charged in the Indictment, but also at least hundreds—and perhaps thousands—of sexually suggestive photographs of fully- or partially-nude females. While these items were only seized this weekend and are still being reviewed, some of the nude or partially-nude photographs appear to be of underage girls, including at least one girl who, according to her counsel, was underage at the time the relevant photographs were taken. Additionally, some of the photographs referenced herein were discovered in a locked safe, in which law enforcement officers also found compact discs with hand-written labels including the following: “Young [Name] + [Name],” “Misc nudes 1,” and “Girl pics nude.” The defendant, a registered sex offender, is not reformed, he is not chastened, he is not repentant; rather, he is a continuing danger to the community and an individual who faces devastating evidence supporting deeply serious charges. Source, p. 9. "Young [Name] + [Name]." Perhaps this means that Epstein had a stash of photographs of various [important] persons doing illegal things with children? Perhaps the Fed seized a massive load of blackmail materials from Epstein? If you have any familiarity with Epstein's social circle and who is in it (and especially who visited his island), the importance of this sentence and the magnitude of the shitstorm that it portends become quite apparent.
We all know there is a shit storm that could come. We just don't think it will because when does it actually ever come for the rich?
The panama papers came and went and nothing happened. Nothing will happen here either.
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AG Barr has recused himself from anything involving Epstein due to conflict of interest issues. Apparently, a law firm Barr previously worked for repped Epstein and Barr’s father gave him a teaching job at something called the Dalton school.
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mueller is republican?
how is he connected to "the left"?
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On July 09 2019 02:58 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 02:34 IyMoon wrote:
Guys, can we stop talking about if xDaunt would or would not defend raping a 7 year old?
This is a horrible topic for us to be on and it should die a horrible death.
He wouldn't defend it and we all know that. I get that he likes trump but come on people, can we take this shit down a notch? No, enough people have defended the truth of “Z defends Trump no matter what” that videotaped rape is the logical end. The record must show no similar behavior leveled at other posters, such as yourself. I would hope people wouldn’t ask you “is it true” and simply say such behavior is unacceptable.
This reminds me of when I was warned for saying xDaunt would have supported the Holocaust. It's great visiting this thread every couple months to see Team Evil (xDaunt and Danglars) still in great form.
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On July 09 2019 03:40 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 03:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
The same accusations that Bill has, Trump has too. What's the difference here? They aren't the same at all. Trump has no demonstrable relationship with Epstein. Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago. Bill was a frequent flier on the Lolita Express and repeat traveler to Epstein's island. And Epstein helped launch the Clinton Global Initiative. This idea that Trump's connections with Epstein are on par with Clinton's is ludicrous at best.
There is a woman who has accused Trump of raping her at Epstein's residence in the 90's. (link) And Trump's labor secretary Acosta was involved in the prosecution of Epstein. And Trump said this of Epstein: "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." Another person who is involved with this, Alan Dershowitz, also has a relationship with Trump, defending him in the media and talking to him in private.
Trump and Epstein have demonstrable connections. And the accusations of sexual assault perpetrated by Trump go much further than just this single case. And obviously Trump is the sort of psycho to rape a 13 y/o girl if given the chance, we know he used to spy on girls in his pageants and there is his creepy obsession with his daughter.
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On July 09 2019 03:40 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 03:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
The same accusations that Bill has, Trump has too. What's the difference here? They aren't the same at all. Trump has no demonstrable relationship with Epstein. Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago. Bill was a frequent flier on the Lolita Express and repeat traveler to Epstein's island. And Epstein helped launch the Clinton Global Initiative. This idea that Trump's connections with Epstein are on par with Clinton's is ludicrous at best. And voila, here we have the post proving Biff correct.
Bill is bad, Trump is good.
Deflect deflect deflect.
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On July 09 2019 06:01 Grumbels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 02:58 Danglars wrote:On July 09 2019 02:34 IyMoon wrote:
Guys, can we stop talking about if xDaunt would or would not defend raping a 7 year old?
This is a horrible topic for us to be on and it should die a horrible death.
He wouldn't defend it and we all know that. I get that he likes trump but come on people, can we take this shit down a notch? No, enough people have defended the truth of “Z defends Trump no matter what” that videotaped rape is the logical end. The record must show no similar behavior leveled at other posters, such as yourself. I would hope people wouldn’t ask you “is it true” and simply say such behavior is unacceptable. This reminds me of when I was warned for saying xDaunt would have supported the Holocaust. It's great visiting this thread every couple months to see Team Evil (xDaunt and Danglars) still in great form.
We do appreciate reminders that some people jump past “wrong” “misguided” “ideologues” and straight to “evil.” People might otherwise get the idea conservatives make up people like you and Biff to serve our arguments. But here you are, true to form, unironically posting “Team Evil.”
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On July 09 2019 07:30 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 06:01 Grumbels wrote:On July 09 2019 02:58 Danglars wrote:On July 09 2019 02:34 IyMoon wrote:
Guys, can we stop talking about if xDaunt would or would not defend raping a 7 year old?
This is a horrible topic for us to be on and it should die a horrible death.
He wouldn't defend it and we all know that. I get that he likes trump but come on people, can we take this shit down a notch? No, enough people have defended the truth of “Z defends Trump no matter what” that videotaped rape is the logical end. The record must show no similar behavior leveled at other posters, such as yourself. I would hope people wouldn’t ask you “is it true” and simply say such behavior is unacceptable. This reminds me of when I was warned for saying xDaunt would have supported the Holocaust. It's great visiting this thread every couple months to see Team Evil (xDaunt and Danglars) still in great form. We do appreciate reminders that some people jump past “wrong” “misguided” “ideologues” and straight to “evil.” People might otherwise get the idea conservatives make up people like you and Biff to serve our arguments. But here you are, true to form, unironically posting “Team Evil.”
If you don't want to be called evil, perhaps you should stop defending the person that is putting children of asylum seekers in concentration camps. But instead all you do is deflect and attempt to argue semantics by saying "oh well it's not REALLY a concentration camp, I mean it's not like they're being killed with gas."
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On July 09 2019 07:43 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 07:30 Danglars wrote:On July 09 2019 06:01 Grumbels wrote:On July 09 2019 02:58 Danglars wrote:On July 09 2019 02:34 IyMoon wrote:
Guys, can we stop talking about if xDaunt would or would not defend raping a 7 year old?
This is a horrible topic for us to be on and it should die a horrible death.
He wouldn't defend it and we all know that. I get that he likes trump but come on people, can we take this shit down a notch? No, enough people have defended the truth of “Z defends Trump no matter what” that videotaped rape is the logical end. The record must show no similar behavior leveled at other posters, such as yourself. I would hope people wouldn’t ask you “is it true” and simply say such behavior is unacceptable. This reminds me of when I was warned for saying xDaunt would have supported the Holocaust. It's great visiting this thread every couple months to see Team Evil (xDaunt and Danglars) still in great form. We do appreciate reminders that some people jump past “wrong” “misguided” “ideologues” and straight to “evil.” People might otherwise get the idea conservatives make up people like you and Biff to serve our arguments. But here you are, true to form, unironically posting “Team Evil.” If you don't want to be called evil, perhaps you should stop defending the person that is putting children of asylum seekers in concentration camps. But instead all you do is deflect and attempt to argue semantics by saying "oh well it's not REALLY a concentration camp, I mean it's not like they're being killed with gas."
Yes, and if the young girl doesn’t want to get raped, maybe she shouldn’t have been wearing such a short skirt. It’s your own fault! This kind of logic, if it can even be called logic, never flies. The power is left in the hands of the person crying racist, white supremacist, evil, and the attacked is left to defend himself again and again and again. I can’t even remember when Grumbels turned nasty, it might’ve been free speech rights for all. I’ll defend the entirety of what I spoke about that issue, and if people want to debase themselves, go right ahead. I’m not afraid to weather playground insults from people who use it to avoid spending brainpower thinking about politics.
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On July 09 2019 05:26 IyMoon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 05:24 xDaunt wrote:On July 09 2019 05:08 Artisreal wrote:On July 09 2019 04:26 xDaunt wrote:On July 09 2019 04:19 Simberto wrote:
So, i just read up on the Epstein background because i was so confused. Due to the certainty with which everyone spoke of the stuff Epstein had done, i was under the impression that he was already in prison, so i was really confused when he suddently got arrested. So i read stuff.
Everything you can read about Epstein is disgusting and shows how corrupt the US justice system is. We have a person who is a serial abuser of underage girls, everyone knows it, and he just gets away with it because he is rich and knows people. Just reading about it makes me incredibly angry. Why does that piece of shit get a plea deal that means he is immune to prosecution, and for the single case that he ends up spending time in prison, he goes to a luxury prison where he can hire his own guards. What the fuck is that shit?
How can you explain any of that to the people and there is not a revolt? There is not even any doubt that he did the things he is accused of, but he just gets away because he is rich and has powerful friends. There is simply no shame on behalf of the people who let him get away with it. It is disgusting, and people should be far more angry about it then they seem to be. Maybe i am just late to the party here because i just found out about it, and all the anger turned to resignation for other people already. But still...the whole thing is just so incredibly and obviously corrupt. Apparently one of the reasons why Epstein skated in 2008 was a deal that he cut with the FBI to provide information on something. As just an FYI, Mueller was the director back then. in what context is this fyi you added important? I just think that it's a potentially interesting fact. It could be neither here nor there. If you follow all of the names across the various scandals on the left side of the aisle (or perhaps it's more fair to say the "swamp side of the aisle"), what you notice is that the same names keep popping up. I'm generally not one for conspiracy theories, but I do pay attention. Speaking of which, take a look at this paragraph from the DOJ's detention memo to the judge in the Epstein case: Finally, despite having been previously convicted of a sex offense involving an underage victim, the defendant has continued to maintain a vast trove of lewd photographs of young-looking women or girls in his Manhattan mansion. In a search of the New York Residence on the night of his arrest, on July 6-7, 2019, pursuant to judicially-authorized warrants, law enforcement officers discovered not only specific evidence consistent with victim recollections of the inside of the mansion, further strengthening the evidence of the conduct charged in the Indictment, but also at least hundreds—and perhaps thousands—of sexually suggestive photographs of fully- or partially-nude females. While these items were only seized this weekend and are still being reviewed, some of the nude or partially-nude photographs appear to be of underage girls, including at least one girl who, according to her counsel, was underage at the time the relevant photographs were taken. Additionally, some of the photographs referenced herein were discovered in a locked safe, in which law enforcement officers also found compact discs with hand-written labels including the following: “Young [Name] + [Name],” “Misc nudes 1,” and “Girl pics nude.” The defendant, a registered sex offender, is not reformed, he is not chastened, he is not repentant; rather, he is a continuing danger to the community and an individual who faces devastating evidence supporting deeply serious charges. Source, p. 9. "Young [Name] + [Name]." Perhaps this means that Epstein had a stash of photographs of various [important] persons doing illegal things with children? Perhaps the Fed seized a massive load of blackmail materials from Epstein? If you have any familiarity with Epstein's social circle and who is in it (and especially who visited his island), the importance of this sentence and the magnitude of the shitstorm that it portends become quite apparent. We all know there is a shit storm that could come. We just don't think it will because when does it actually ever come for the rich? The panama papers came and went and nothing happened. Nothing will happen here either.
Oh, something happened as a result of the panama papers. The journalist was assassinated.
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On July 09 2019 07:55 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 07:43 hunts wrote:On July 09 2019 07:30 Danglars wrote:On July 09 2019 06:01 Grumbels wrote:On July 09 2019 02:58 Danglars wrote:On July 09 2019 02:34 IyMoon wrote:
Guys, can we stop talking about if xDaunt would or would not defend raping a 7 year old?
This is a horrible topic for us to be on and it should die a horrible death.
He wouldn't defend it and we all know that. I get that he likes trump but come on people, can we take this shit down a notch? No, enough people have defended the truth of “Z defends Trump no matter what” that videotaped rape is the logical end. The record must show no similar behavior leveled at other posters, such as yourself. I would hope people wouldn’t ask you “is it true” and simply say such behavior is unacceptable. This reminds me of when I was warned for saying xDaunt would have supported the Holocaust. It's great visiting this thread every couple months to see Team Evil (xDaunt and Danglars) still in great form. We do appreciate reminders that some people jump past “wrong” “misguided” “ideologues” and straight to “evil.” People might otherwise get the idea conservatives make up people like you and Biff to serve our arguments. But here you are, true to form, unironically posting “Team Evil.” If you don't want to be called evil, perhaps you should stop defending the person that is putting children of asylum seekers in concentration camps. But instead all you do is deflect and attempt to argue semantics by saying "oh well it's not REALLY a concentration camp, I mean it's not like they're being killed with gas." Yes, and if the young girl doesn’t want to get raped, maybe she shouldn’t have been wearing such a short skirt. It’s your own fault! This kind of logic, if it can even be called logic, never flies.
Did you just argue against your own party? This is how the right is defending Trump after all: "If people didn't want to be put in concentration camps they should have just stayed home!"
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On July 09 2019 08:06 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 07:55 Danglars wrote:On July 09 2019 07:43 hunts wrote:On July 09 2019 07:30 Danglars wrote:On July 09 2019 06:01 Grumbels wrote:On July 09 2019 02:58 Danglars wrote:On July 09 2019 02:34 IyMoon wrote:
Guys, can we stop talking about if xDaunt would or would not defend raping a 7 year old?
This is a horrible topic for us to be on and it should die a horrible death.
He wouldn't defend it and we all know that. I get that he likes trump but come on people, can we take this shit down a notch? No, enough people have defended the truth of “Z defends Trump no matter what” that videotaped rape is the logical end. The record must show no similar behavior leveled at other posters, such as yourself. I would hope people wouldn’t ask you “is it true” and simply say such behavior is unacceptable. This reminds me of when I was warned for saying xDaunt would have supported the Holocaust. It's great visiting this thread every couple months to see Team Evil (xDaunt and Danglars) still in great form. We do appreciate reminders that some people jump past “wrong” “misguided” “ideologues” and straight to “evil.” People might otherwise get the idea conservatives make up people like you and Biff to serve our arguments. But here you are, true to form, unironically posting “Team Evil.” If you don't want to be called evil, perhaps you should stop defending the person that is putting children of asylum seekers in concentration camps. But instead all you do is deflect and attempt to argue semantics by saying "oh well it's not REALLY a concentration camp, I mean it's not like they're being killed with gas." Yes, and if the young girl doesn’t want to get raped, maybe she shouldn’t have been wearing such a short skirt. It’s your own fault! This kind of logic, if it can even be called logic, never flies. Did you just argue against your own party? This is how the right is defending Trump after all: "If people didn't want to be put in concentration camps they should have just stayed home!"
If you didn't support people being put in concentration camps you shouldn't have encouraged those people to walk into said camps of their own free will beacuse you told them they'd be Given citizenship one day soon.
They would be perfectly fine facilities if people in America weren't encouraging so much human trafficking in order to fill them.
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Thanks serm I'll add that to the massive, infinite list of problems that the left is responsible for that the left isn't really responsible for.
Remember when it was the left's fault that the republicans voted Trump in?
Its what we call "Shapiro logic"
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On July 09 2019 09:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Thanks serm I'll add that to the massive, infinite list of problems that the left is responsible for that the left isn't really responsible for.
Remember when it was the left's fault that the republicans voted Trump in?
Its what we call "Shapiro logic"
You don't blame the venue for having disgusting toilets you blame the promoter for not having enough bathrooms for the event they promoted for. The event the left is promoting for is amnesty. They are advertising for human traffickers to say "quickly give us your money so we can bring you to America and soon you will be a us citizen". Simple cause and effect.
Having fault and being the fault of are two different things.
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On July 09 2019 09:47 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 09:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Thanks serm I'll add that to the massive, infinite list of problems that the left is responsible for that the left isn't really responsible for.
Remember when it was the left's fault that the republicans voted Trump in?
Its what we call "Shapiro logic" You don't blame the venue for having disgusting toilets you blame the promoter for not having enough bathrooms for the event they promoted for. The event the left is promoting for is amnesty. They are advertising for human traffickers to say "quickly give us your money so we can bring you to America and soon you will be a us citizen". Simple cause and effect. Having fault and being the fault of are two different things.
The mental gymnastics. Must be a gold medalist in the all around event. I could be wrong, but I think the left is for honoring what the US is founded and has been made prosperous from, and that is accepting people from all over who are looking for a better life and to have an opportunity to you know...live. They want people who come here illegally to be checked and given a chance to earn citizenship. If you want to play this game, then really, you don't belong here. Neither do I. Only people who the US rightfully belongs to is the native americans. Because americans brought weapons and disease and wiped a civilization out of their homes, does not give them the right to decide who is welcome and who is not.
Take your nonsense elsewhere.
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On July 09 2019 10:04 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 09:47 Sermokala wrote:On July 09 2019 09:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Thanks serm I'll add that to the massive, infinite list of problems that the left is responsible for that the left isn't really responsible for.
Remember when it was the left's fault that the republicans voted Trump in?
Its what we call "Shapiro logic" You don't blame the venue for having disgusting toilets you blame the promoter for not having enough bathrooms for the event they promoted for. The event the left is promoting for is amnesty. They are advertising for human traffickers to say "quickly give us your money so we can bring you to America and soon you will be a us citizen". Simple cause and effect. Having fault and being the fault of are two different things. The mental gymnastics. Must be a gold medalist in the all around event. I could be wrong, but I think the left is for honoring what the US is founded and has been made prosperous from, and that is accepting people from all over who are looking for a better life and to have an opportunity to you know...live. They want people who come here illegally to be checked and given a chance to earn citizenship. If you want to play this game, then really, you don't belong here. Neither do I. Only people who the US rightfully belongs to is the native americans. Because americans brought weapons and disease and wiped a civilization out of their homes, does not give them the right to decide who is welcome and who is not. Take your nonsense elsewhere.
I'm glad you agree that they come here illegally and are inherently criminals waiting for the deal sold to them to come true as economic migrants and not the asylum seekers they profess to be.
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On July 09 2019 05:24 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 05:08 Artisreal wrote:On July 09 2019 04:26 xDaunt wrote:On July 09 2019 04:19 Simberto wrote:
So, i just read up on the Epstein background because i was so confused. Due to the certainty with which everyone spoke of the stuff Epstein had done, i was under the impression that he was already in prison, so i was really confused when he suddently got arrested. So i read stuff.
Everything you can read about Epstein is disgusting and shows how corrupt the US justice system is. We have a person who is a serial abuser of underage girls, everyone knows it, and he just gets away with it because he is rich and knows people. Just reading about it makes me incredibly angry. Why does that piece of shit get a plea deal that means he is immune to prosecution, and for the single case that he ends up spending time in prison, he goes to a luxury prison where he can hire his own guards. What the fuck is that shit?
How can you explain any of that to the people and there is not a revolt? There is not even any doubt that he did the things he is accused of, but he just gets away because he is rich and has powerful friends. There is simply no shame on behalf of the people who let him get away with it. It is disgusting, and people should be far more angry about it then they seem to be. Maybe i am just late to the party here because i just found out about it, and all the anger turned to resignation for other people already. But still...the whole thing is just so incredibly and obviously corrupt. Apparently one of the reasons why Epstein skated in 2008 was a deal that he cut with the FBI to provide information on something. As just an FYI, Mueller was the director back then. in what context is this fyi you added important? I just think that it's a potentially interesting fact. It could be neither here nor there. If you follow all of the names across the various scandals on the left side of the aisle (or perhaps it's more fair to say the "swamp side of the aisle"), what you notice is that the same names keep popping up. I'm generally not one for conspiracy theories, but I do pay attention. Speaking of which, take a look at this paragraph from the DOJ's detention memo to the judge in the Epstein case: Show nested quote +Finally, despite having been previously convicted of a sex offense involving an underage victim, the defendant has continued to maintain a vast trove of lewd photographs of young-looking women or girls in his Manhattan mansion. In a search of the New York Residence on the night of his arrest, on July 6-7, 2019, pursuant to judicially-authorized warrants, law enforcement officers discovered not only specific evidence consistent with victim recollections of the inside of the mansion, further strengthening the evidence of the conduct charged in the Indictment, but also at least hundreds—and perhaps thousands—of sexually suggestive photographs of fully- or partially-nude females. While these items were only seized this weekend and are still being reviewed, some of the nude or partially-nude photographs appear to be of underage girls, including at least one girl who, according to her counsel, was underage at the time the relevant photographs were taken. Additionally, some of the photographs referenced herein were discovered in a locked safe, in which law enforcement officers also found compact discs with hand-written labels including the following: “Young [Name] + [Name],” “Misc nudes 1,” and “Girl pics nude.” The defendant, a registered sex offender, is not reformed, he is not chastened, he is not repentant; rather, he is a continuing danger to the community and an individual who faces devastating evidence supporting deeply serious charges. Source, p. 9. "Young [Name] + [Name]." Perhaps this means that Epstein had a stash of photographs of various [important] persons doing illegal things with children? Perhaps the Fed seized a massive load of blackmail materials from Epstein? If you have any familiarity with Epstein's social circle and who is in it (and especially who visited his island), the importance of this sentence and the magnitude of the shitstorm that it portends become quite apparent.
This is juicy stuff. It has long been reported that Epstein kept blackmail tapes on the public figures who had sex with his girls. And this case is being handled in the SDNY's public corruption unit, with "assistance" from the child sex crimes unit. Everyone on those tapes needs to go down in flames.
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On July 09 2019 10:10 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 10:04 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On July 09 2019 09:47 Sermokala wrote:On July 09 2019 09:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Thanks serm I'll add that to the massive, infinite list of problems that the left is responsible for that the left isn't really responsible for.
Remember when it was the left's fault that the republicans voted Trump in?
Its what we call "Shapiro logic" You don't blame the venue for having disgusting toilets you blame the promoter for not having enough bathrooms for the event they promoted for. The event the left is promoting for is amnesty. They are advertising for human traffickers to say "quickly give us your money so we can bring you to America and soon you will be a us citizen". Simple cause and effect. Having fault and being the fault of are two different things. The mental gymnastics. Must be a gold medalist in the all around event. I could be wrong, but I think the left is for honoring what the US is founded and has been made prosperous from, and that is accepting people from all over who are looking for a better life and to have an opportunity to you know...live. They want people who come here illegally to be checked and given a chance to earn citizenship. If you want to play this game, then really, you don't belong here. Neither do I. Only people who the US rightfully belongs to is the native americans. Because americans brought weapons and disease and wiped a civilization out of their homes, does not give them the right to decide who is welcome and who is not. Take your nonsense elsewhere. I'm glad you agree that they come here illegally and are inherently criminals waiting for the deal sold to them to come true as economic migrants and not the asylum seekers they profess to be.
I'll spell it out for you, since it is hard to understand:
If they are guilty of any one thing, that makes them less human and therefore less worthy of aid, regardless of where they come from, it is that they look differently than you. They are not "inherently criminals" as you put it, which invokes a response of fear and hatred. They are refugees, fleeing a nation or area that is killing large swathes of their own people. These are people who are willing to make the journey, for a chance, to get a shot at a better life.
You dehumanizing them doesn't make them any worse. It makes you look like an uncaring, unfeeling, bigoted racist jerk. And if you want to call that slander, be my guess. Read your previous posts as proof that you are.
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