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ZerOCoolSC2
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On April 19 2018 01:26 Mohdoo wrote: My first action would be declaring all Dragon Ball arc conclusions national holidays and direct national guard funding towards public showings like in Brazil. while amusing; this also opens up some discussion room: what would you like to do for real? (we're assuming you're somehow president in a non-problematic way for purpose of the argument, to get past scenarios like mind-swapping weirdness) it needn't be your top priority; just some stuff you'd like to see done. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44052 Posts
2. Actually do something correct and useful with education/ school reform 3. Universal healthcare 4. Properly deal with the reality of climate change Just to name a few. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15477 Posts
On April 19 2018 02:50 zlefin wrote: while amusing; this also opens up some discussion room: what would you like to do for real? (we're assuming you're somehow president in a non-problematic way for purpose of the argument, to get past scenarios like mind-swapping weirdness) it needn't be your top priority; just some stuff you'd like to see done. 1. Public funding for all elections with spending limits determined by total number of voters being represented by said position. Radio and TV ads no longer allowed. Only advertising permitted being through a Youtube channel (or some in-house government version of this for elected officials) or signs/stickers on private property. No more donations whether private or otherwise. Candidates required to submit a half page (no longer, no shorter) description of why they should be elected. Booklets containing all relevant candidates mailed to all households depending on where you are and who is running. Once people receive booklets, they can request physical media be sent containing anything on youtube for people who do not have internet or do not wish to use it. All of those rules applying to every elected official. Edit: And debates or rallies regularly scheduled in a standardized way with funding and scope determined by whatever the policy is regarding that. All candidates have the same number of rallies at the same places with broadcasted debates all run by the same policies and procedures. 2. Drug war scope and purpose determined by medical professionals. Drug policy becomes a public health issue rather than criminal. 3. Regular mental health examinations and visits being a part of required medical coverage. No existing condition required. "So how are you doing?" psychologist visits would essentially be treated the same as regular tooth cleanings. And other stuff, but I would say those are the main 3. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Suggestion: Your drug platform should include input from treatment centers, social workers and pretty much everyone who has to deal with drugs the aftermath of drugs that isn’t law enforcement. | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
Can we decide as a thread what our top 3(maybe 5) policies we would like to see a candidate run on. There has to be something so universally fucked that both sides agree needs to be fixed (prisons?) | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On April 19 2018 04:59 Dangermousecatdog wrote: You'll need to define "both sides" which as it stands would probably exclude certain opinions that they would themselves regard as deserving of a voice. Let's go moderate left and right wings US scale. No fringe | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
2. reverse the tax breaks. try for actual tax reform by closing business loopholes while lowering the regular tax rate. throw in a tax holiday. increase the EITC. 3. healthcare reform by allowing CMS to negotiate drug prices across the board, or do solicitation for drugs via RFP. allow smaller insurers to participate in government-negotiated formulary & pricing. 10x the current amount of funding for innovation and value based care initiatives. 4. new federal taskforce to oversee law enforcement/ policing, with the power to intervene and investigate any police force that has complaints, or civilian deaths/ injuries. not just consent decrees like the DoJ did with chicago, but a full time thing. 5. increase education funding, including grants for community college. ban for profit colleges unless unless a score based on academic/ admission standards, debt burden and job/grad school placement rates exceeds that of the state schools of the state they are located in. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On April 19 2018 04:56 IyMoon wrote: Do we all get to play this game? Can we decide as a thread what our top 3(maybe 5) policies we would like to see a candidate run on. There has to be something so universally fucked that both sides agree needs to be fixed (prisons?) of course; since it's not so mcuh a game as it is a discussion topic, and this is the discussion thread. I find it odd that you ask if you can join in the discussion in a discussion thread. and as a thread, I doubt we'll agree, as ordering things gets much trickier, and there's a fair bit of divergence in the thread views. then of course it depends what you're looking at for scale/feasibility, people have been focusing on tall orders for which even the power of the presidency is insufficient, and often pushing constitutional boundaries, and focusing on huge scope problems rather than the smaller and more directly doable things I was thinking of when I looked at the original joke. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15477 Posts
On April 19 2018 05:28 zlefin wrote: of course; since it's not so mcuh a game as it is a discussion topic, and this is the discussion thread. I find it odd that you ask if you can join in the discussion in a discussion thread. and as a thread, I doubt we'll agree, as ordering things gets much trickier, and there's a fair bit of divergence in the thread views. then of course it depends what you're looking at for scale/feasibility, people have been focusing on tall orders for which even the power of the presidency is insufficient, and often pushing constitutional boundaries, and focusing on huge scope problems rather than the smaller and more directly doable things I was thinking of when I looked at the original joke. This is why I need you as my press secretary. Please at least consider it. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On April 19 2018 05:32 Mohdoo wrote: This is why I need you as my press secretary. Please at least consider it. sure, if you become president i'll be your press secretary. I'm confident that won't come back to bite me. | ||
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Howie_Dewitt
United States1416 Posts
GH predicting Trump winning the primary multiple times and continually saying he's going to thrash the other republicans A good moment: Simberto generously giving the thread his special recipe for bottled water, and Kwark still failing | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
But also, many of us predicted the dumpster fire clown show that is this Administration. Right down to the attacks on the press, disrespect for the rule of law and self enrichment by Trump and family. It is as expected. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On April 19 2018 06:57 Plansix wrote: When you get to November-January of 2016, you will see a lot of folks that predicated Trump would win taking their victory. And a bunch of us eating humble pie. But also, many of us predicted the dumpster fire clown show that is this Administration. Right down to the attacks on the press, disrespect for the rule of law and self enrichment by Trump and family. It is as expected. Does that mean we win, or that we lose even more? I feel sometimes - this is in relation to Brexit - like I'm standing in front of an oncoming train, telling the skeptical 'if we don't move, that train will hit us, and it will hurt'. And I'm right, but I don't feel like a winner. It seems to me like your situation with Trump is very comparable. To add a foreigner's stick on the 'were I president' fantasy club, I'd definitely want debates to become much longer form, and enforce several dealing with key issues facing the nation. So maybe a 30 minute block by both candidates - uninterrupted - where they have to put out long speeches where they demonstrate to the nation that they actually know what the fuck they are talking about. Sure, the ratings would be awful, but fuck it. Enough people would watch, and the results should hopefully seep out into the public consciousness over time. None of this personalty-vs-personality stuff American politics has been overrun with, just a block where the candidates have to demonstrate to the people of the United States that they are going to potentially elect someone who understands the issues in front of them, and have an idea on how to approach the problem beyond a 30 second sound bite. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 19 2018 07:13 iamthedave wrote: Does that mean we win, or that we lose even more? I feel sometimes - this is in relation to Brexit - like I'm standing in front of an oncoming train, telling the skeptical 'if we don't move, that train will hit us, and it will hurt'. And I'm right, but I don't feel like a winner. It seems to me like your situation with Trump is very comparable. It is not a lot of fun for sure. The part that bothers me most is the complete lack of leadership across the board. Congress is supposed to oppose an imperial president, not protect him. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21536 Posts
On April 19 2018 07:26 Plansix wrote: Party before country, victory at any cost.It is not a lot of fun for sure. The part that bothers me most is the complete lack of leadership across the board. Congress is supposed to oppose an imperial president, not protect him. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On April 19 2018 00:54 zlefin wrote: I don't do well on tv; (probably not for live at least, due to anxiety issues). is there any particular idea/question you'd like to see pulled apart? does this mean youve been on (live) tv, since you used a verb with a present habitual aspect? | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On April 19 2018 07:59 IgnE wrote: does this mean youve been on (live) tv, since you used a verb with a present habitual aspect? no, i've been on taped tv, but not live, which iirc already caused alot of anxiety issues. so my statement was poorly worded. | ||
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