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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18820 Posts
April 16 2018 17:45 GMT
#2421
On April 17 2018 02:03 ticklishmusic wrote:
+1 on Strunk & White.

One thing I like is that most law schools teach a class on legal writing, which ensures some level of sanity in their documents. But when I read a legal doc and the lawyer felt the need to use 'know all by these presents' I want to scream.

Having taken a legal writing class, I can tell you that in many if not most cases, the writer's habits are already set such that those classes end up being too little, too late for those in most need of skill development. One of my professors said that 90% of the students he sees are terrible writers and there's almost nothing they can do about it, clinical writing profs included.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12060 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-16 18:08:55
April 16 2018 18:08 GMT
#2422
It's no surprise that the system to study writing is lacking, but to put it in perspective you literally cannot study writing in french. There are like five places total where you can study storytelling, let alone writing.

I think it's in no small part the reason why "writing well" in english means having clarity, and "writing well" in french means wanking yourself because of how many unusual words you know.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 16 2018 18:15 GMT
#2423
On April 17 2018 03:08 Nebuchad wrote:
It's no surprise that the system to study writing is lacking, but to put it in perspective you literally cannot study writing in french. There are like five places total where you can study storytelling, let alone writing.

I think it's in no small part the reason why "writing well" in english means having clarity, and "writing well" in french means wanking yourself because of how many unusual words you know.

How wrong!

Ce que l'on conçoit bien s'énonce clairement,
Et les mots pour le dire viennent aisément...


[Whatever is well conceived is clearly said,
And the words to say it flow with ease...]
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12060 Posts
April 16 2018 18:17 GMT
#2424
On April 17 2018 03:15 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2018 03:08 Nebuchad wrote:
It's no surprise that the system to study writing is lacking, but to put it in perspective you literally cannot study writing in french. There are like five places total where you can study storytelling, let alone writing.

I think it's in no small part the reason why "writing well" in english means having clarity, and "writing well" in french means wanking yourself because of how many unusual words you know.

How wrong!

Ce que l'on conçoit bien s'énonce clairement,
Et les mots pour le dire viennent aisément...


[Whatever is well conceived is clearly said,
And the words to say it flow with ease...]


You should read some Alain Damasio if you haven't. He """writes well""" =)
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 16 2018 18:53 GMT
#2425


So in a surprising yet unsurprising revelation, Sean Hannity gets wrapped up in this entire saga instead of being merely a commentator.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 16 2018 19:00 GMT
#2426
That is a plot twist I was 100% not expecting. And given Cohen’s history of paying off women to keep quiet about affairs, I’m sure I can guess what he was doing for Hannity.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-16 19:09:23
April 16 2018 19:08 GMT
#2427
It must be so frustrating working for Trump. Has it even been 24 hours since Nikki Haley made the announcement?

http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 16 2018 19:10 GMT
#2428
On April 17 2018 04:00 Plansix wrote:
That is a plot twist I was 100% not expecting. And given Cohen’s history of paying off women to keep quiet about affairs, I’m sure I can guess what he was doing for Hannity.


A FOX sexual harassment settlement seems like a pretty good possibility too.
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Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
April 16 2018 19:31 GMT
#2429
Every FOX male actor has thus far been a part of the sexual harassment culture. And Hannity was on the downest of down low with the worst of the worst (Ailes, O'Rielly, Murdoch). Even with this, I haven't seen anything to see that he participated in the office sport. If Hannity was into less-than-consensual play, I believe something would have come out by now. But that he was a Cohen client raises an enormous smoke cloud over Hannity that puts his locker-room levels of trust with big league FOX harrassers into question.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
April 16 2018 19:32 GMT
#2430
On April 17 2018 00:28 ticklishmusic wrote:
i think it may be a reference to some of his pro business votes as he represented delaware which is where pretty much all corporations are incorporated. it's a little silly, but people do it anyways the way cory booker is called pro pharma (because all the big pharmas are headquartered in jersey), new york folks are pro-wall street and iowa folks are pro corn.

Maybe I'm missing it, but isn't that the point?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 16 2018 19:36 GMT
#2431
On April 17 2018 04:08 crms wrote:
It must be so frustrating working for Trump. Has it even been 24 hours since Nikki Haley made the announcement?

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/985945079356502017

I believe so. Between this and hiring the UN’s favorite, Mr. Bolton, I doubt anyone is taking the US seriously when it comes to foreign relations. I doubt they expect us to take the lead on anything.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
April 16 2018 19:37 GMT
#2432
Fox News has been blasting their own Twitter feed in the last hour, hoping that the people who follow them are too stupid distracted to notice what's going on in this, the latest shitstorm in the conservative world.




I was fully prepared to see them saying nothing on the subject of Hannity, and calling it an afternoon, but nope. This isn't even the half of it, they're in full blown propaganda distraction mode right now.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-16 19:40:06
April 16 2018 19:39 GMT
#2433


Just like CNN and MSNBC does it.

In all seriousness, this should be serious legal-trouble for all of Fox News, imo. You had a guy on national airwaves, feigning impartiality on a story he was directly, legally implicated in. It's... oh, the 21st century Republicans.

Why does this not upset them the most? Hello, the people you listen to are completely lying to you to insane-degrees. Do you care? Why does anyone still actually watch Fox News? You like being insulted? Listen to me instead, I'll insult you, and you'll know it right away.
Big water
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
April 16 2018 19:41 GMT
#2434
On April 17 2018 04:39 Leporello wrote:
https://twitter.com/ChrisMegerian/status/985960944219107328

Just like CNN and MSNBC does it.

In all seriousness, this should be serious legal-trouble for all of Fox News, imo. You had a guy on national airwaves, feigning impartiality on a story he was directly, legally implicated in. It's... oh, the 21st century Republicans.

Why does this not upset them the most? Hello, the people you listen to are completely lying to you to insane-degrees. Do you care? Why does anyone still actually watch Fox News? You like being insulted? Listen to me instead, I'll insult you, and you'll know it right away.

Probably the Roy Moore defense: Either the evil left is the ones lying -or- it's okay, because the evil left is worse.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 16 2018 19:47 GMT
#2435
The myth of the liberal dominated media is ever green. They have their own network, but conservatives are still convinced they are not represented in media. They dominated engagement on Facebook, per a new NBC report, but congress asks Facebook why conservatives are being targeted on their platform. But the myth is pretty good marketing if you are in the business of turning being a conservative into an identity.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15477 Posts
April 16 2018 19:59 GMT
#2436
This feels like the sort of thing fox has to act on. This is such an enormous conflict of interest that I don't see how they turn a blind eye. This is really bad for Hannity.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 16 2018 20:06 GMT
#2437
Bigger question: did Fox pay the legal bills for whatever Cohen dealt with for Hannity?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-16 20:21:01
April 16 2018 20:12 GMT
#2438


S'all good, man.



No, really, they get their law-degrees from watching Breaking Bad and Goodfellas. I'm dying.
Big water
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15477 Posts
April 16 2018 20:14 GMT
#2439
On April 17 2018 05:12 Leporello wrote:
https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/985968301640765440

S'all good, man.

So then fox was paying the bill? Even spicier.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 16 2018 20:17 GMT
#2440
On April 17 2018 05:12 Leporello wrote:
https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/985968301640765440

S'all good, man.


Sounds like Hannity should have conferred with his lawyer before talking about this. Oh wait, awkward.
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