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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-28 00:24:17
February 28 2019 00:24 GMT
#23261
I think personally its obscenely distasteful to have him testify. A guy that swears on the bible before his god and his country then willingly, and on his own apparently, decided to break that oath shouldn't be near a congressional hearing. He can make his statements on his own time but giving a proven and admitted oath breaker like that credibility is a mistake. No one should take his comments seriously enough to even listen to them.

He testified at the same time as my soap which is also unacceptable.
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
February 28 2019 00:24 GMT
#23262
This whole process...my god can the Republicans get more obvious? If people still vote for them after this hearing,..it just sucks I have to be governed by idiots because my vote doesn't count in my state (NC).
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iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 28 2019 00:32 GMT
#23263
On February 28 2019 09:24 Sermokala wrote:
I think personally its obscenely distasteful to have him testify. A guy that swears on the bible before his god and his country then willingly, and on his own apparently, decided to break that oath shouldn't be near a congressional hearing. He can make his statements on his own time but giving a proven and admitted oath breaker like that credibility is a mistake. No one should take his comments seriously enough to even listen to them.

He testified at the same time as my soap which is also unacceptable.


Shrug. Trump was sworn in as president on the bible and couldn't tell the truth if you put glasses and a funny hat on it. The bible is a meaningless prop in American politics.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 28 2019 00:55 GMT
#23264
On February 28 2019 09:24 Sermokala wrote:
I think personally its obscenely distasteful to have him testify. A guy that swears on the bible before his god and his country then willingly, and on his own apparently, decided to break that oath shouldn't be near a congressional hearing. He can make his statements on his own time but giving a proven and admitted oath breaker like that credibility is a mistake. No one should take his comments seriously enough to even listen to them.

He testified at the same time as my soap which is also unacceptable.

The problem is the President is a liar that surrounded himself with a pack of liars. So congress must speak with known liars, because the people who tell the truth cannot work for Trump.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 28 2019 00:58 GMT
#23265
On February 28 2019 09:24 Sermokala wrote:
I think personally its obscenely distasteful to have him testify. A guy that swears on the bible before his god and his country then willingly, and on his own apparently, decided to break that oath shouldn't be near a congressional hearing. He can make his statements on his own time but giving a proven and admitted oath breaker like that credibility is a mistake. No one should take his comments seriously enough to even listen to them.

He testified at the same time as my soap which is also unacceptable.

Cohen is a liar’s liar. The dude likely perjured himself multiple times today. Nothing new or profound came from today’s testimony. It was a monumental waste of time that isn’t going to move the political needle one iota. Democrats got some new impeachment fantasy porn, but that’s about it. Independents aren’t going to give two shits, and Trump’s approval rating is going to remain where it is over the long run.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
February 28 2019 01:01 GMT
#23266
On February 28 2019 09:58 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 09:24 Sermokala wrote:
I think personally its obscenely distasteful to have him testify. A guy that swears on the bible before his god and his country then willingly, and on his own apparently, decided to break that oath shouldn't be near a congressional hearing. He can make his statements on his own time but giving a proven and admitted oath breaker like that credibility is a mistake. No one should take his comments seriously enough to even listen to them.

He testified at the same time as my soap which is also unacceptable.

Cohen is a liar’s liar. The dude likely perjured himself multiple times today. Nothing new or profound came from today’s testimony. It was a monumental waste of time that isn’t going to move the political needle one iota. Democrats got some new impeachment fantasy porn, but that’s about it. Independents aren’t going to give two shits, and Trump’s approval rating is going to remain where it is over the long run.

I love how "Independents aren’t going to give two shits" about this, but the PRO LIFE MOVEMENT over played their hands and are going to feel it.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 28 2019 01:02 GMT
#23267
Also, I particularly like how Cohen admitted that his opening statement was drafted by Democrats and Lanny Davis. What a farce.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 28 2019 01:02 GMT
#23268
On February 28 2019 10:01 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 09:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 28 2019 09:24 Sermokala wrote:
I think personally its obscenely distasteful to have him testify. A guy that swears on the bible before his god and his country then willingly, and on his own apparently, decided to break that oath shouldn't be near a congressional hearing. He can make his statements on his own time but giving a proven and admitted oath breaker like that credibility is a mistake. No one should take his comments seriously enough to even listen to them.

He testified at the same time as my soap which is also unacceptable.

Cohen is a liar’s liar. The dude likely perjured himself multiple times today. Nothing new or profound came from today’s testimony. It was a monumental waste of time that isn’t going to move the political needle one iota. Democrats got some new impeachment fantasy porn, but that’s about it. Independents aren’t going to give two shits, and Trump’s approval rating is going to remain where it is over the long run.

I love how "Independents aren’t going to give two shits" about this, but the PRO LIFE MOVEMENT over played their hands and are going to feel it.

Pro-choice. Get it straight.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-28 01:06:04
February 28 2019 01:02 GMT
#23269
On February 28 2019 09:55 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 09:24 Sermokala wrote:
I think personally its obscenely distasteful to have him testify. A guy that swears on the bible before his god and his country then willingly, and on his own apparently, decided to break that oath shouldn't be near a congressional hearing. He can make his statements on his own time but giving a proven and admitted oath breaker like that credibility is a mistake. No one should take his comments seriously enough to even listen to them.

He testified at the same time as my soap which is also unacceptable.

The problem is the President is a liar that surrounded himself with a pack of liars. So congress must speak with known liars, because the people who tell the truth cannot work for Trump.

The idea that people who appear disposed towards dishonesty are the sort of people who should not testify before a tribunal seems absolutely absurd to me.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 28 2019 01:06 GMT
#23270
On February 28 2019 10:02 farvacola wrote:
The idea that people who appear disposed towards dishonesty are the sort of people who should not testify before a tribunal seems absolutely absurd to me.

Cohen can do whatever he wants. But let’s get real. He is as dishonest as people come, bearing an attorney’s wet dream of impeachment material.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
February 28 2019 01:10 GMT
#23271
On February 28 2019 10:06 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 10:02 farvacola wrote:
The idea that people who appear disposed towards dishonesty are the sort of people who should not testify before a tribunal seems absolutely absurd to me.

Cohen can do whatever he wants. But let’s get real. He is as dishonest as people come, bearing an attorney’s wet dream of impeachment material.


Sure, Cohen is a liar. That is why he is going to jail. But everything he said today was with the knowledge that Muller, and probably SDNY know everything. If he lies again, under oath, he is getting a shit ton more than 3 years. I am willing to believe a guy who knows everything is under a microscope to the 10th degree. If Muller or SDNY comes down with more chargers about lying, then I will start to question it.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22187 Posts
February 28 2019 01:10 GMT
#23272
On February 28 2019 09:58 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 09:24 Sermokala wrote:
I think personally its obscenely distasteful to have him testify. A guy that swears on the bible before his god and his country then willingly, and on his own apparently, decided to break that oath shouldn't be near a congressional hearing. He can make his statements on his own time but giving a proven and admitted oath breaker like that credibility is a mistake. No one should take his comments seriously enough to even listen to them.

He testified at the same time as my soap which is also unacceptable.

Cohen is a liar’s liar. The dude likely perjured himself multiple times today. Nothing new or profound came from today’s testimony. It was a monumental waste of time that isn’t going to move the political needle one iota. Democrats got some new impeachment fantasy porn, but that’s about it. Independents aren’t going to give two shits, and Trump’s approval rating is going to remain where it is over the long run.
Run me through your logic if you please.
Why would Cohen perjure himself before congress today? He is in a plea deal, everything he knows is in the hands of some form of investigation be it state or federal. He has been sentenced and is going to jail.
Why on earth would he be lying now. What's the angle here and what is he lying about?


It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-28 01:15:47
February 28 2019 01:11 GMT
#23273
On February 28 2019 10:02 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 09:55 Plansix wrote:
On February 28 2019 09:24 Sermokala wrote:
I think personally its obscenely distasteful to have him testify. A guy that swears on the bible before his god and his country then willingly, and on his own apparently, decided to break that oath shouldn't be near a congressional hearing. He can make his statements on his own time but giving a proven and admitted oath breaker like that credibility is a mistake. No one should take his comments seriously enough to even listen to them.

He testified at the same time as my soap which is also unacceptable.

The problem is the President is a liar that surrounded himself with a pack of liars. So congress must speak with known liars, because the people who tell the truth cannot work for Trump.

The idea that people who appear disposed towards dishonesty are the sort of people who should not testify before a tribunal seems absolutely absurd to me.

It’s a great angle if you want to discredit them. And last time I checked convicted felons can still turn state’s witness. So if it’s good enough for the executive branch in criminal cases, it’s good enough for congress.

And of course Cohens attorney wrote his opening statement and told the committee what he was going to say. It’s not like the Republicans couldn’t just ask Cummings about it. They do t because it’s such a good angle of attack.

Also, remember that Rudy and Manafort both worked for Trump for free.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 28 2019 01:16 GMT
#23274
On February 28 2019 10:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 09:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 28 2019 09:24 Sermokala wrote:
I think personally its obscenely distasteful to have him testify. A guy that swears on the bible before his god and his country then willingly, and on his own apparently, decided to break that oath shouldn't be near a congressional hearing. He can make his statements on his own time but giving a proven and admitted oath breaker like that credibility is a mistake. No one should take his comments seriously enough to even listen to them.

He testified at the same time as my soap which is also unacceptable.

Cohen is a liar’s liar. The dude likely perjured himself multiple times today. Nothing new or profound came from today’s testimony. It was a monumental waste of time that isn’t going to move the political needle one iota. Democrats got some new impeachment fantasy porn, but that’s about it. Independents aren’t going to give two shits, and Trump’s approval rating is going to remain where it is over the long run.
Run me through your logic if you please.
Why would Cohen perjure himself before congress today? He is in a plea deal, everything he knows is in the hands of some form of investigation be it state or federal. He has been sentenced and is going to jail.
Why on earth would he be lying now. What's the angle here and what is he lying about?



I really have no idea for why Cohen likes to habitually lie. I can’t relate to him at all. But I do know that he did likely lie today about multiple things, which even CNN believes.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
February 28 2019 01:16 GMT
#23275
On February 28 2019 10:02 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 10:01 Gahlo wrote:
On February 28 2019 09:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 28 2019 09:24 Sermokala wrote:
I think personally its obscenely distasteful to have him testify. A guy that swears on the bible before his god and his country then willingly, and on his own apparently, decided to break that oath shouldn't be near a congressional hearing. He can make his statements on his own time but giving a proven and admitted oath breaker like that credibility is a mistake. No one should take his comments seriously enough to even listen to them.

He testified at the same time as my soap which is also unacceptable.

Cohen is a liar’s liar. The dude likely perjured himself multiple times today. Nothing new or profound came from today’s testimony. It was a monumental waste of time that isn’t going to move the political needle one iota. Democrats got some new impeachment fantasy porn, but that’s about it. Independents aren’t going to give two shits, and Trump’s approval rating is going to remain where it is over the long run.

I love how "Independents aren’t going to give two shits" about this, but the PRO LIFE MOVEMENT over played their hands and are going to feel it.

Pro-choice. Get it straight.

Sorry, was busy thinking in my head about how many mothers would be condemned to death for the crime of getting pregnant and it slipped.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24766 Posts
February 28 2019 01:16 GMT
#23276
If Cohen habitually lies, that probably explains how he and his former employer got paired up.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22187 Posts
February 28 2019 01:20 GMT
#23277
On February 28 2019 10:16 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 10:10 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 28 2019 09:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 28 2019 09:24 Sermokala wrote:
I think personally its obscenely distasteful to have him testify. A guy that swears on the bible before his god and his country then willingly, and on his own apparently, decided to break that oath shouldn't be near a congressional hearing. He can make his statements on his own time but giving a proven and admitted oath breaker like that credibility is a mistake. No one should take his comments seriously enough to even listen to them.

He testified at the same time as my soap which is also unacceptable.

Cohen is a liar’s liar. The dude likely perjured himself multiple times today. Nothing new or profound came from today’s testimony. It was a monumental waste of time that isn’t going to move the political needle one iota. Democrats got some new impeachment fantasy porn, but that’s about it. Independents aren’t going to give two shits, and Trump’s approval rating is going to remain where it is over the long run.
Run me through your logic if you please.
Why would Cohen perjure himself before congress today? He is in a plea deal, everything he knows is in the hands of some form of investigation be it state or federal. He has been sentenced and is going to jail.
Why on earth would he be lying now. What's the angle here and what is he lying about?



I really have no idea for why Cohen likes to habitually lie. I can’t relate to him at all. But I do know that he did likely lie today about multiple things, which even CNN believes.
So you have no clue other then that he said bad things about your boy, therefor he must have lied.

Glad we agree.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24766 Posts
February 28 2019 01:22 GMT
#23278
He had motivation to lie back when he thought he could keep his inappropriate actions covered up and also keep his boss out of hot water. Lying may not have been smart in hindsight, but there was some logic too it. Now, there is no longer a logic. The only reason to claim he's likely to be lying now since he was lying before is if you don't like what he's saying.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-28 01:26:14
February 28 2019 01:25 GMT
#23279
Also, Cohen brought receipts that can be independently verified. He is a liar, but a very self aware liar. He knows he needs to back up the truth with more than just his word.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 28 2019 01:26 GMT
#23280
On February 28 2019 10:22 micronesia wrote:
He had motivation to lie back when he thought he could keep his inappropriate actions covered up and also keep his boss out of hot water. Lying may not have been smart in hindsight, but there was some logic too it. Now, there is no longer a logic. The only reason to claim he's likely to be lying now since he was lying before is if you don't like what he's saying.

Lying now gets him a book deal, political favors, and revenge against Trump for however he perceives that Trump wronged him.
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