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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10801 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 22:03:09
February 27 2019 22:02 GMT
#23241
I don't know.. But no someone was kinda called a racist, so there is an intervention... Because, i don't know, they also did it on How i met your mother?

I guess.



Is crying on oprah directly linked to this program?
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 22:03:23
February 27 2019 22:03 GMT
#23242
On February 28 2019 07:01 CorsairHero wrote:
what happened to meadows

Earlier he brought a black woman working in the Trump govt and used her to say that Trump was not racist. It's the old "I have a colored friend, look I'm not racist".
Tlaib did not like that, she said bringing a black woman as a prop was a racist act by itself, and Meadows of course does not like that.
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
February 27 2019 22:05 GMT
#23243
On February 28 2019 07:01 CorsairHero wrote:
what happened to meadows


He did a racist thing and got called on it by a brown lady and lost his shit.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2019 22:08 GMT
#23244
Mark Meadows is not used to being in the minority. He is used to having the Republican leadership protect him and gets very very mad when that doesn’t happen. These guys got elected to oppose a black president who couldn’t call them out in person. They are clueless in this new environment.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10801 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 22:17:17
February 27 2019 22:16 GMT
#23245
Oh an dnow there is the family values speech from "leader guy" with redemption and both sides + make our country better... ark... wtf... Does someone get a rose or a million in the end?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43203 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 22:40:34
February 27 2019 22:17 GMT
#23246
Here is a summary prepared by Cohen. Basically just what we already knew, but confirmed.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/636-michael-cohens-congressional-t/3a1530b333230e775df5/optimized/full.pdf
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Gear 3rd
Profile Joined July 2011
1244 Posts
February 27 2019 22:20 GMT
#23247
For all its worth... I know its a lot of drama and feels kinda pathetic but on another note I think it humanizes politics to some extent... We are humans and we are led by humans, tainted by irrationality and emotions.
2 cents..
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2019 22:21 GMT
#23248
There are about of AG and DAs that are talking about the “I knew what Trump wanted” line of discussion as exactly how organized crime functions. The boss never tells people to do things directly, he just implies what he wants and tells them when they read his implication correctly.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 27 2019 22:27 GMT
#23249
Is there any real angle the republicans have on wanting Rosenstein for discussing the 25th? Jordan ended saying their time could have been better used to ask him about that. I mean Trump can call it a unconstitutional coup attempt all he wants but in reality Rosenstein is surely free to discuss something like that? Doesn't it just look bad on Trump that it was discussed?
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 27 2019 22:28 GMT
#23250
So when everyone concluded that the best we could hope for was to nail was Don Jr., that kinda changes now, doesn't it? Nothing went on in his world that he didn't know about.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10801 Posts
February 27 2019 22:30 GMT
#23251
What we learned today: There will be a book and a movie.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 22:47:52
February 27 2019 22:44 GMT
#23252
On February 28 2019 07:27 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Is there any real angle the republicans have on wanting Rosenstein for discussing the 25th? Jordan ended saying their time could have been better used to ask him about that. I mean Trump can call it a unconstitutional coup attempt all he wants but in reality Rosenstein is surely free to discuss something like that? Doesn't it just look bad on Trump that it was discussed?

They are fixated on that because it feeds into their deep state argument that Trump and the conservatives love. The acting FBI direction and Deputy AG discussing who do deal with a clearly criminal president is to much for them. These jokers would also have supported Nixon firing the AG and Deputy AG.
On February 28 2019 07:30 Velr wrote:
What we learned today: There will be a book and a movie.

This is one of the things that hurt the Republicans more than anything, Cohen's stark honesty about this intent to make money after he serves his time. The dude was not at all shy about who he is or how far he has fallen. Cohen said it all when they asked "You call Trump a conman, what does that make you?" and he responded "A fool."
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 22:50:10
February 27 2019 22:46 GMT
#23253
I can't believe the GOP think their supporters are so stupid to buy the argument that because Cohen was a liar and a criminal, his testimony is worthless.

I'm sure it will work on a shameful amount of people but haven't we relied on witness testimony of criminals for damn near eternity? The whole origin of criminals hating 'rats' is the embodiment of this process. We've had to rely on criminal testimony for some of the largest and smallest criminal cases our country has ever seen. Thousands and thousands of cases have been built on the back of criminals testifying due to being forced or due to flipping/cooperating, wtf.

What a stupid, stupid, stupid argument.

edit: i get the uneasy nature of trusting a known liar/cheat/whatever but hypocrisy aside (Trump lies constantly...) testimony from those with access and receipts regardless of their criminality can definitely be useful in ongoing investigations...wtf?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2019 22:49 GMT
#23254
The best part was when that clown asked Cohen if he turned those boxes he was searching through over to the FBI. Cohen responded "Yes and they gave them back to me." The dude might as well have asked "Does the FBI know about all the evidence of crimes you committed on behalf of the President?"
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 22:54:09
February 27 2019 22:50 GMT
#23255
On February 28 2019 07:05 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 07:01 CorsairHero wrote:
what happened to meadows


He did a racist thing and got called on it by a brown lady and lost his shit.


mark meadows is highly offended at being called a racist, because he totally isn't one.



On February 28 2019 07:46 crms wrote:
I can't believe the GOP think their supporters are so stupid to buy the argument that because Cohen was a liar and a criminal, his testimony is worthless.

I'm sure it will work on a shameful amount of people but haven't we relied on witness testimony of criminals for damn near eternity? The whole origin of criminals hating 'rats' is the embodiment of this process. We've had to rely on criminal testimony for some of the largest and smallest criminal cases our country has ever seen. Thousands and thousands of cases have been built on the back of criminals testifying due to being forced or due to flipping/cooperating, wtf.

What a stupid, stupid, stupid argument.

edit: i get the uneasy nature of trusting a known liar/cheat/whatever but hypocrisy aside (Trump lies constantly...) testimony from those with access and receipts regardless of their criminality can definitely be useful in ongoing investigations...wtf?


one of the dems pointed out that having criminals testify is how RICO works, lol.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2019 23:04 GMT
#23256
Rule one of RICO is that it’s never RICO.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 23:14:53
February 27 2019 23:12 GMT
#23257
On February 28 2019 07:08 Plansix wrote:
Mark Meadows is not used to being in the minority. He is used to having the Republican leadership protect him and gets very very mad when that doesn’t happen. These guys got elected to oppose a black president who couldn’t call them out in person. They are clueless in this new environment.


He does sound like a giant tool. I can't remember the name of the guy I called out as a knob when I was doing running commentary on the Comey hearings, but Meadows seems knobbier even than that guy. I keep thinking the Republicans are going to run out of these twats but they always seem to have a new one hiding under a paving slab like some shitty version of a Norwegian bridge troll.

On February 28 2019 07:46 crms wrote:
I can't believe the GOP think their supporters are so stupid to buy the argument that because Cohen was a liar and a criminal, his testimony is worthless.

I'm sure it will work on a shameful amount of people but haven't we relied on witness testimony of criminals for damn near eternity? The whole origin of criminals hating 'rats' is the embodiment of this process. We've had to rely on criminal testimony for some of the largest and smallest criminal cases our country has ever seen. Thousands and thousands of cases have been built on the back of criminals testifying due to being forced or due to flipping/cooperating, wtf.

What a stupid, stupid, stupid argument.

edit: i get the uneasy nature of trusting a known liar/cheat/whatever but hypocrisy aside (Trump lies constantly...) testimony from those with access and receipts regardless of their criminality can definitely be useful in ongoing investigations...wtf?


That is literally the thread title on T_D dealing with this matter.

They're there before you, my man.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
February 27 2019 23:26 GMT
#23258
On February 28 2019 07:44 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 07:27 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Is there any real angle the republicans have on wanting Rosenstein for discussing the 25th? Jordan ended saying their time could have been better used to ask him about that. I mean Trump can call it a unconstitutional coup attempt all he wants but in reality Rosenstein is surely free to discuss something like that? Doesn't it just look bad on Trump that it was discussed?

They are fixated on that because it feeds into their deep state argument that Trump and the conservatives love. The acting FBI direction and Deputy AG discussing who do deal with a clearly criminal president is to much for them. These jokers would also have supported Nixon firing the AG and Deputy AG.
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 07:30 Velr wrote:
What we learned today: There will be a book and a movie.

This is one of the things that hurt the Republicans more than anything, Cohen's stark honesty about this intent to make money after he serves his time. The dude was not at all shy about who he is or how far he has fallen. Cohen said it all when they asked "You call Trump a conman, what does that make you?" and he responded "A fool."


It's remarkable that they can't accept that career Republicans (and some of his own appointees) are doubting his fitness for office because, wait for it.... HE MAY NOT BE FIT FOR OFFICE. It's always got to be some "deep state" plot or "war against the constitution".
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 27 2019 23:32 GMT
#23259
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 28 2019 00:19 GMT
#23260
On February 28 2019 08:32 JimmiC wrote:
Trumpism is nearing religion status. Logic and reality need not apply.

Nearing? Logic and reality parted ways a long time ago out of inconvenience.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
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