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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4718 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-02 01:16:27
February 02 2019 01:08 GMT
#21741
Northam's had such a bad week the media may even have to move on from the story being about Republican reaction to him to what he actually did! No promises though, they'll throw him under and forget by Monday.

There are all sorts of fun theories as to who did this and why now. The timing is awfully interesting, considering he was just in the news for some sick comments he made, although as I alluded to above, the coverage of that was pathetic.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15551 Posts
February 02 2019 01:29 GMT
#21742
Since he was in medical school at the time, he should resign. You're totally an actual person by that time.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 02 2019 01:44 GMT
#21743
That abortion comment did really screw up his fall back plan of running as a Republican if this story came to light. So I guess he just resigns and the LT governor takes over.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
February 02 2019 04:52 GMT
#21744
I'm astounded it took this long for the photo to surface. Normally it gets discovered during election campaigns. Either way, he was well into being an adult then and should have been aware of what those costumes meant. While I do think and hope he did a lot of maturing since then - I mean, he was in med school at the time - he will be stained by this. I could see him resigning soon, especially with people on both sides of the aisle calling for it.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-02 17:20:06
February 02 2019 17:18 GMT
#21745
On February 02 2019 10:29 Mohdoo wrote:
Since he was in medical school at the time, he should resign. You're totally an actual person by that time.


So high school, no. Medical school, yes?

Maybe it was a Halloween Party and his costume idea was an avant la lettre Django Unchained concept.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44119 Posts
February 02 2019 17:24 GMT
#21746
On February 03 2019 02:18 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2019 10:29 Mohdoo wrote:
Since he was in medical school at the time, he should resign. You're totally an actual person by that time.


So high school, no. Medical school, yes?

Maybe it was a Halloween Party and his costume idea was an avant la lettre Django Unchained concept.


I would agree with that distinction, because he's legally an adult.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
February 02 2019 17:35 GMT
#21747
He is going to have a press conference where he says he is not resigning because be now believes it was not him in the picture and he can prove it.

The fact that his immediate reaction to the picture, even if it turns out to not be him, was "yeah that was bad" means he clearly has done similarly stupid and racist things. Maybe he is just confusing his racist acts with someone else tho, eh?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18822 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-02 19:06:26
February 02 2019 19:01 GMT
#21748
I hope he resigns or is otherwise ostracized sufficiently, but goddamn, the pearl clutching on the part of conservative talking heads is off the charts lol
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15551 Posts
February 02 2019 19:58 GMT
#21749
On February 03 2019 02:18 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2019 10:29 Mohdoo wrote:
Since he was in medical school at the time, he should resign. You're totally an actual person by that time.


So high school, no. Medical school, yes?

Maybe it was a Halloween Party and his costume idea was an avant la lettre Django Unchained concept.


I personally went through an insane amount of growth between senior year of high school and graduating college. Medical school means he already got his 4 year college degree. And it depends what someone did. I think all of these things are highly situational and with all the facts here, he should resign.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-02 20:23:02
February 02 2019 20:19 GMT
#21750
On February 03 2019 02:35 On_Slaught wrote:
He is going to have a press conference where he says he is not resigning because be now believes it was not him in the picture and he can prove it.

The fact that his immediate reaction to the picture, even if it turns out to not be him, was "yeah that was bad" means he clearly has done similarly stupid and racist things. Maybe he is just confusing his racist acts with someone else tho, eh?

He also wants to use facial recognition software to prove it wasn't him, despite one of the people in the photo wearing a hood.

At his press conference he said he once "darkened his face" to impersonate Michael Jackson, separate from this incident. Dude needs to step down. Also the oppo research on him had to have been a group of molerats or something equally idiotic.

His nickname was also "coonman"
mrsatanmrsatan
Profile Joined February 2019
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-02 21:23:16
February 02 2019 21:21 GMT
#21751
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
February 02 2019 21:31 GMT
#21752
Because liberal's and conservative's past on this issue is completely equal.

Also, that's some impressive cherry picking. Do you work for the RNC perchance?
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-02 23:11:25
February 02 2019 23:11 GMT
#21753
On February 03 2019 04:01 farvacola wrote:
I hope he resigns or is otherwise ostracized sufficiently, but goddamn, the pearl clutching on the part of conservative talking heads is off the charts lol

Maybe because the far left has overused the term racist so much to smear centrists and right wingers that when one of their own is actually shown to be a racist it’s newsworthy.

I mean the guys nickname during college was ‘coonman’ ffs.As recently as 2013 he refused to shake hands with a black candidate for Lt governor in a tv debate.Guy is a racist, needs to go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12108 Posts
February 02 2019 23:14 GMT
#21754
On February 03 2019 08:11 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2019 04:01 farvacola wrote:
I hope he resigns or is otherwise ostracized sufficiently, but goddamn, the pearl clutching on the part of conservative talking heads is off the charts lol

Maybe because the far left has overused the term racist so much to smear centrists and right wingers that when one of their own is actually shown to be a racist it’s newsworthy.


Why?
No will to live, no wish to die
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 02 2019 23:25 GMT
#21755
On February 03 2019 08:11 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2019 04:01 farvacola wrote:
I hope he resigns or is otherwise ostracized sufficiently, but goddamn, the pearl clutching on the part of conservative talking heads is off the charts lol

Maybe because the far left has overused the term racist so much to smear centrists and right wingers that when one of their own is actually shown to be a racist it’s newsworthy.

I mean the guys nickname during college was ‘coonman’ ffs.As recently as 2013 he refused to shake hands with a black candidate for Lt governor in a tv debate.Guy is a racist, needs to go.

My guy here is literally quoting from the GOP talking points line for line. This is like barely trying to have a discussion. But here is the thing, the Democratic Party wants him gone. The leadership said he should resign.

The Republicans never dropped this during the election because they were worried their base might vote for the guy if they did.

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1913 Posts
February 02 2019 23:29 GMT
#21756
I think this relentless focus on incidents of the past is distracting far too much from actual politics. You can be a very good governor even with having had some very comprimising photoes taken of you at some point.

The context of the picture is very important too. During their studies, my sisters went to some "unappropriate themed" parties and "S" parties where people dressed as Suicide bombers. I don't think everything should be taken so seriously!
Buff the siegetank
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 02 2019 23:31 GMT
#21757
Nah, the dude was and likely still is a god damn racist. It doesn’t mean he should be burned at the stake or be run out of the country. Be he shouldn’t be a governor.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21595 Posts
February 02 2019 23:34 GMT
#21758
On February 03 2019 08:29 Slydie wrote:
I think this relentless focus on incidents of the past is distracting far too much from actual politics. You can be a very good governor even with having had some very comprimising photoes taken of you at some point.

The context of the picture is very important too. During their studies, my sisters went to some "unappropriate themed" parties and "S" parties where people dressed as Suicide bombers. I don't think everything should be taken so seriously!
America can and should do better.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 02 2019 23:39 GMT
#21759
On February 03 2019 08:34 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2019 08:29 Slydie wrote:
I think this relentless focus on incidents of the past is distracting far too much from actual politics. You can be a very good governor even with having had some very comprimising photoes taken of you at some point.

The context of the picture is very important too. During their studies, my sisters went to some "unappropriate themed" parties and "S" parties where people dressed as Suicide bombers. I don't think everything should be taken so seriously!
America can and should do better.



I agree with should, I'm uncertain about 'can' at this stage.

I'll accept that the Democrats can do better. I see no such potential in the GOP.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-03 00:56:55
February 03 2019 00:56 GMT
#21760
On February 03 2019 08:29 Slydie wrote:
I think this relentless focus on incidents of the past is distracting far too much from actual politics. You can be a very good governor even with having had some very comprimising photoes taken of you at some point.

The context of the picture is very important too. During their studies, my sisters went to some "unappropriate themed" parties and "S" parties where people dressed as Suicide bombers. I don't think everything should be taken so seriously!


This isn’t some dude being naked and flexing on the internet. This is some dude that is either in blackface or wearing a KKK hood. Democrats want him gone for obvious reasons, mainly because this is racist as heck no matter how you cut it.

I’ve always had very poor impressions of people who take part in intentionally inappropriate costume parties. Is there a serious need for someone to come dressed up as Chairman Mao, Stalin or Hitler? Why would anyone find it funny to take the effort to scrounge up the articles of clothing to pull off that cosplay? It’s not like the million other costume themed parties are any less amusing or fun.
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