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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12320 Posts
January 29 2019 18:26 GMT
#21521
I... just can't bring myself to care that I wasn't vaccinated. Like, I don't have an argument against vaccination, I should have been vaccinated. I just wasn't, I got a bunch of diseases, and I can't care.
No will to live, no wish to die
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 29 2019 18:29 GMT
#21522
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Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-29 18:52:25
January 29 2019 18:52 GMT
#21523
On January 30 2019 03:04 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2019 02:55 Gorsameth wrote:
On January 30 2019 02:43 Jockmcplop wrote:
That puts an incredible amount of trust in the medical establishment.

Try to see the argument from the other side. If someone is sure that a vaccination is going to harm their child, whatever you want to charge them with is something they could be charged with either way.
If they avoid vaccinations they are endangering their child.
If they get the kid vaccinated thinking they are going to damage their kid in doing so then they are attempting to endanger their child.
This is a problem that is already solved.
See every other situation where the government can stop in for child endangerment.


I don't understand why people can't see problems with this.
You can find testimony online from scientists and doctors (probably being paid off) stating categorically that you shouldn't get your kids vaccinated.
How does the government legislate which scientists and doctors we legally have to listen to and which ones we legally have to ignore?
BTW I feel i should state that obviously I think vaccines are good and do only what they are supposed to do.


A part of this research is in peer-reviewed publications, widely accepted as the correct way to do science. The other is in sponsored publications. Who should you trust ? Easy if you're not an idiot. And for idiots, there is the law.
The US is a special place for everything related to medication and regulations it seems, especially under this government.
NoiR
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6248 Posts
January 29 2019 19:00 GMT
#21524
It's not just a problem in the US. Not vaccinating is a growing problem in Europe as well. No idea why though.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21951 Posts
January 29 2019 19:01 GMT
#21525
On January 30 2019 04:00 RvB wrote:
It's not just a problem in the US. Not vaccinating is a growing problem in Europe as well. No idea why though.
Because people are stupid and social media is making it more and more easy for quacks to get in touch with stupid people.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
January 29 2019 19:04 GMT
#21526
On January 30 2019 03:26 Nebuchad wrote:
I... just can't bring myself to care that I wasn't vaccinated. Like, I don't have an argument against vaccination, I should have been vaccinated. I just wasn't, I got a bunch of diseases, and I can't care.

You don't care that you got a bunch of diseases? Wow.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8158 Posts
January 29 2019 19:06 GMT
#21527
On January 30 2019 03:26 Nebuchad wrote:
I... just can't bring myself to care that I wasn't vaccinated. Like, I don't have an argument against vaccination, I should have been vaccinated. I just wasn't, I got a bunch of diseases, and I can't care.


You should, because you not being vaccinated (If you haven't already have had all the diseases you can get) can kill your future son or daughter (or someone elses) before they are vaccinated themselves. We rely on herd immunity, and you're a weak spot that can let diseases in.

Getting vaccinated as an adult isn't wrong either.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12320 Posts
January 29 2019 19:24 GMT
#21528
On January 30 2019 04:06 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2019 03:26 Nebuchad wrote:
I... just can't bring myself to care that I wasn't vaccinated. Like, I don't have an argument against vaccination, I should have been vaccinated. I just wasn't, I got a bunch of diseases, and I can't care.


You should, because you not being vaccinated (If you haven't already have had all the diseases you can get) can kill your future son or daughter (or someone elses) before they are vaccinated themselves. We rely on herd immunity, and you're a weak spot that can let diseases in.

Getting vaccinated as an adult isn't wrong either.


Not gonna have kids before we fix climate change/capitalism... so, not gonna have kids I'd wager
No will to live, no wish to die
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 29 2019 19:29 GMT
#21529
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-29 19:45:12
January 29 2019 19:44 GMT
#21530
On January 30 2019 04:00 RvB wrote:
It's not just a problem in the US. Not vaccinating is a growing problem in Europe as well. No idea why though.

From a first look it seems to be religious beliefs, but it's really hard to pin it down to be honest. Mostly on Eastern Europe.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 29 2019 19:48 GMT
#21531
On January 30 2019 04:29 JimmiC wrote:
Idocracy is upon us!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy


I've said before that Trump being elected has moved us closer to either the Idocracy or the Mad Max universe. For a while there with all the NK shit I was leaning towards Mad Max. More recently I'm in the Idocracy boat.

President Camacho's SOTU has less lies than the one Trump will give next week. Count on it.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-29 19:52:24
January 29 2019 19:51 GMT
#21532
At least Camacho recognized a smarter person than himself
Neosteel Enthusiast
Bauminki
Profile Joined January 2019
3 Posts
January 29 2019 20:07 GMT
#21533
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8158 Posts
January 29 2019 20:41 GMT
#21534
On January 30 2019 05:07 Bauminki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2019 04:06 Excludos wrote:
On January 30 2019 03:26 Nebuchad wrote:
I... just can't bring myself to care that I wasn't vaccinated. Like, I don't have an argument against vaccination, I should have been vaccinated. I just wasn't, I got a bunch of diseases, and I can't care.


You should, because you not being vaccinated (If you haven't already have had all the diseases you can get) can kill your future son or daughter (or someone elses) before they are vaccinated themselves. We rely on herd immunity, and you're a weak spot that can let diseases in.

Getting vaccinated as an adult isn't wrong either.

I wonder what Catherine thinks about me now, twelve years after we spoke last time. Is she thinking - he used to be a nice guy but now he is an insane psycho? Recently I realized something - if you read books a lot, you might discover something harmful.


Is this a quote? If so I don't get it. If not then..wtf?
bolton_wants_oil
Profile Joined January 2019
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-29 20:48:57
January 29 2019 20:48 GMT
#21535
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IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
January 29 2019 21:01 GMT
#21536
On January 30 2019 05:48 bolton_wants_oil wrote:
Yikes.

Twitter.com

Democracy, though, amirite?


In any normal administration, going 'blood for oil isnt bad for the US' would be an instant fire
Something witty
bolton_wants_oil
Profile Joined January 2019
3 Posts
January 29 2019 21:08 GMT
#21537
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-29 21:15:48
January 29 2019 21:12 GMT
#21538
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IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
January 29 2019 21:22 GMT
#21539
On January 30 2019 06:12 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2019 06:01 IyMoon wrote:
On January 30 2019 05:48 bolton_wants_oil wrote:
Yikes.

Twitter.com

Democracy, though, amirite?


In any normal administration, going 'blood for oil isnt bad for the US' would be an instant fire



It is sad that it isn't in this case. What a stupid message. That being said, given the source of the post and the PBU who posted it we might need to make sure it is legit. Given it's about Bolton it probably is.


I didn't even look at the name before I watched the video I hope I was not scammed
Something witty
bolton_wants_oil
Profile Joined January 2019
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-29 21:29:57
January 29 2019 21:26 GMT
#21540
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