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On May 02 2007 07:24 stuthedog wrote:
well to add my two cents ive been watching a lot of prison documentaries on msnbc investigates and uh like 70-90 percent of the guys in there are black and the rest are mexican and a small percentage are white. so whats that tell you?
That you are probably not very smart, if you think race correlates to commission of violent crime BECAUSE of said race.
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Norway28553 Posts
that there are structural differences between how whites blacks and hispanics are treated by the justice system?
black people are far more likely to go to jail for the same crime a white person does.
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Sick stuff. Regardless of their race and gender they dont even deserve a lethal injection, just a bullet in the head.
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On May 02 2007 07:28 Liquid`Drone wrote:
that there are structural differences between how whites blacks and hispanics are treated by the justice system?
black people are far more likely to go to jail for the same crime a white person does.
And that the social causes of crime are more prevalant among the black population.
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Norway28553 Posts
yeah i actually wrote that first but then edited it from my post 
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On May 02 2007 07:28 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2007 07:24 stuthedog wrote:
well to add my two cents ive been watching a lot of prison documentaries on msnbc investigates and uh like 70-90 percent of the guys in there are black and the rest are mexican and a small percentage are white. so whats that tell you? That you are probably not very smart, if you think race correlates to commission of violent crime BECAUSE of said race.
or maybe black people just commit more crime in the u.s.?
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Norway28553 Posts
while this is actually undoubtely true (regarding violent crime and crime that has an obvious culprit anyway, another fact that inflates the statistics), what do you think the reason for this is?
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I didn't say that that wasn't statistically true, I just meant that your indication that it is because they are black, and not due to other reasons such as what Kwark and Liquid'Drone brought up, is a logical fallacy.
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On May 02 2007 08:14 Liquid`Drone wrote:
while this is actually undoubtely true (regarding violent crime and crime that has an obvious culprit anyway, another fact that inflates the statistics), what do you think the reason for this is?
hip hop culture that has become black culture, creates cycle of poverty, crime then committed by blacks reinforcing and sometimes creating perception (imo is accurate if many blacks are in jail) that blacks are dangerous, creating more poverty etc. then they shove the blame on whites especially and "the system" not taking responsibility.
a huge offender imo is culture. look at asians and how well theyve done in the u.s. and even hispanics who make more on average than blacks and both of these groups' immigrant populations have been here less than blacks. these two have a strong work ethic and emphasis on education and it shows in their incomes. while blacks thinks if they get educated theyre "selling out" and becoming an "uncle tom" which is fucking bullshit.
man, i want blacks to succeed cuz then there'd be less crime and the u.s. would be a happier place but this is the world we live in. i have hope that al sharpton and rev jackson will actually do some good by pressuring music labels to stop promoting gang culture.
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On May 02 2007 08:17 Lemonwalrus wrote:
I didn't say that that wasn't statistically true, I just meant that your indication that it is because they are black, and not due to other reasons such as what Kwark and Liquid'Drone brought up, is a logical fallacy.
i didnt say because theyre black they commit crime as if it were built into their dna. but the statement that "blacks commit most violent crime" and "comprise most prison population" is an accurate observation.
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Perhaps I missunderstood your post on the last page, but that is what it seemed like you were getting at, at least from my perspective. If I did missunderstand you, I apologize.
But I still think that you are making generalizations that although perhaps statistically hinted at, are not in fact the root causes of the problem. I am relieved however to see that you are debating this logically, and therefore regret the little jab at you in my first response to you, sorry about that. 
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This is just fucked up.
No questions, no fucking arguments.
This is way over the line. Sadistic mother fuckers.
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On May 02 2007 08:28 Lemonwalrus wrote:Perhaps I missunderstood your post on the last page, but that is what it seemed like you were getting at, at least from my perspective. If I did missunderstand you, I apologize. But I still think that you are making generalizations that although perhaps statistically hinted at, are not in fact the root causes of the problem. I am relieved however to see that you are debating this logically, and therefore regret the little jab at you in my first response to you, sorry about that.
ya all good i sometimes just post without thinking much about it so im sure i prob did come off as you said i did. i have no problems with blacks just the ones that commit crime and ya they say that any given time 1/3 of the black male population is in jail (heard it on cnn). so i dont think im wrong when i have biases and fears based on that. then theres talking to the ones into hip hop culture. it's all about appearing tough and when the youth try to emulate that, it makes people like me unwilling to talk to them and get to know them because of the immaturity and danger of their posturing. id feel the same way if it was a white nazi, mexican cholo or asian gangster and even those who are wannabes (as if i can tell the difference) so no i dont think im racist.
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On May 01 2007 17:54 Ganfei wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2007 17:54 fusionsdf wrote:
Why would you distaste black people because of this? That doesnt make any sense Are you serious? Blacks aren't the only race who do this type of thing you know? It's done all the time in The middle east(Other countries too). Also whites raped and murderd inslaved and freed blacks back in the day. And your judging an entire race unfairly over acts of a few, that's equivalent to me developing a hatred towards asians because of the act of one person (VT shooting)... stupid in my opinion...
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hm ... the second one from left looks like will smith LOL !
Torture the guilt 1. gg no re
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Look at the blatant facts. Among the many many events that go on in our daily lives, there's this ONE incident where 5 black men commit this atrocious crime. As far as race goes...yeah, so? They were black, it just happened to be that way (although statistically, that puts them at a disadvantage).
I think the real threat lies beyond the race, but what's causing this kind of hatred. It may be just one case of psychotic individuals who had beef with white people. Same with the V-tech incident. It was ONE case of a crazy korean student who had issues beyond normal human problems.
Also, I do realize that there may be multiple cases of such incidents as this and Virginia, but the nation-hating is stupid and is just an excuse, something people express their hatred through because they need to blame something, or in this case, someone. Do these incidents happen every day? Fuck no. If such were the case, then I'd truly be worried about the mental state of the general population.
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this is only a racial affair if one were to comment on racial tensions or whatnot, that it happened isn't due to them being black or whatnot,although you could tie into the blackness the whole social status or whatnot it is that gets tied into these things and have some arguable causal relation to the affair but that would not be a racial argument anyway.
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so seriously what the fuck is wrong with this world.
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On May 02 2007 07:28 Liquid`Drone wrote:
that there are structural differences between how whites blacks and hispanics are treated by the justice system?
black people are far more likely to go to jail for the same crime a white person does.
Thats just what they want you to believe.
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On May 01 2007 18:13 Dustin wrote:
This is fucking disgusting. Fuck Dendra and lil.sis above all for being fucking idiots.
Edit: and yes they were Animals...look at the shit they did.
roflmao they are not fucking animals, animals wouldnt do such thing. in fact, it looks more humanish, thx.
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