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ZerglingSoup
Profile Joined June 2009
United States346 Posts
October 29 2016 12:17 GMT
#1
I found this on Reddit. Apparently there has been some credible confirmation of the level of control that SK's corporations have over its government.

http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/767405.html

An excerpt:

Lee also recalled that Choi “would toss us the materials at the meetings and have us reading them without any real explanation, giving us orders to ‘Do things this way’ or ‘Do things that way.’”
“We would listen to her and draft project plans, and they would be passed back to us later as Blue House documents without so much as a comma changed,” he added.

While explaining this, Lee showed a Hankyoreh reporter a comparison of documents stored as image files on his iPhone, which were published as official Blue House documents after he wrote them. He also showed telephone numbers saved on the device for around 20 Blue House secretaries and senior secretaries, which the Hankyoreh later confirmed to be correct.

Regarding the topics discussed at the meetings, Lee said, “About 10% were related to the Mir and K-Sports Foundations, while the other 90% mostly had to do with government policies like the shutdown of the Kaesong Industrial Complex, which Choi Sun-sil referred to as ’issues of interest to President Park Geun-hye.‘”

“Appointment issues were also discussed at the meetings, and decisions were made on who to make or not make a Cabinet minister,” he added.
“It’s a real break with common perceptions to say this, but it’s actually a system where Choi tells the President to do things this way or that way. There aren’t any issues where the President can decide on her own,” Lee said. “It’s basically only possible once Choi has been asked about and approves everything. Even the Blue House ‘door knocker triumvirate’ are basically all just Choi’s messengers.”
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 12:57:07
October 29 2016 12:55 GMT
#2
Everything is working as intended.
Oneofsanto can explain you it's the most efficient way to govern, makes everyone happy in dollar.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
October 29 2016 13:06 GMT
#3
Choi does not even live in Korea at the moment. She also organises her stuff via a fresh owned Hotel in some rural town here in Germany. Germany has never seen so many korean journalists like the last days.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 13:11:01
October 29 2016 13:10 GMT
#4
Well, this is getting just a tad bit awkward, I suppose. Next thing you know the largest and best democracy in the world turns out to have been under overwhelming influence of corporations. But, that could never happen, of course, as the people there would rise up against such tyranny to stop it from taking hold over their country.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3393 Posts
October 29 2016 13:26 GMT
#5
What's the blue house?
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 13:31:36
October 29 2016 13:31 GMT
#6
On October 29 2016 22:26 riotjune wrote:
What's the blue house?

From Wikipedia:
The Blue House is the executive office and official residence of the South Korean head of state, the President of the Republic of Korea, and is located in the capital city of Seoul. The Blue House is in fact a complex of buildings, built largely in the traditional Korean architectural style with some modern elements.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3393 Posts
October 29 2016 13:44 GMT
#7
So it's Korean White House. Cept it's blue.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 29 2016 13:44 GMT
#8
Pretty bad to hear this; looks like North Korea propaganda was actually accurate?!
maru lover forever
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
October 29 2016 13:47 GMT
#9
On October 29 2016 22:44 Incognoto wrote:
Pretty bad to hear this; looks like North Korea propaganda was actually accurate?!


Maybe we've been backing the wrong Korea all this time, LOL.

But no, North Korea is just as incorporated as any other state + Show Spoiler +
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
October 29 2016 13:54 GMT
#10
On October 29 2016 22:10 a_flayer wrote:
Well, this is getting just a tad bit awkward, I suppose. Next thing you know the largest and best democracy in the world turns out to have been under overwhelming influence of corporations. But, that could never happen, of course, as the people there would rise up against such tyranny to stop it from taking hold over their country.

I don't really understand how you class something as the largest and best democracy. Its' either a democracy or it isn't by definition and unless Korean voters display higher turnouts than any other democratic country how is it the largest? ;O

News doesn't seem surprising though, I mean awhile back Korea was seemingly just on the lower tech-side of the manufacturing chain under Japan. They obviously needed the legislation to achieve the dominance that they have today. Not that it is in anyway a good thing- I mean corporate affecting government to this high of a level..
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
October 29 2016 13:58 GMT
#11
On October 29 2016 22:54 MyTHicaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 22:10 a_flayer wrote:
Well, this is getting just a tad bit awkward, I suppose. Next thing you know the largest and best democracy in the world turns out to have been under overwhelming influence of corporations. But, that could never happen, of course, as the people there would rise up against such tyranny to stop it from taking hold over their country.

I don't really understand how you class something as the largest and best democracy. Its' either a democracy or it isn't by definition and unless Korean voters display higher turnouts than any other democratic country how is it the largest? ;O

News doesn't seem surprising though, I mean awhile back Korea was seemingly just on the lower tech-side of the manufacturing chain under Japan. They obviously needed the legislation to achieve the dominance that they have today. Not that it is in anyway a good thing- I mean corporate affecting government to this high of a level..


Sorry, I should have clarified. I am using their own definition of their country as a way to mock them.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 29 2016 14:00 GMT
#12
On October 29 2016 22:44 Incognoto wrote:
Pretty bad to hear this; looks like North Korea propaganda was actually accurate?!


I mean, even a clock that's standing still gets shit right twice a day lol
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 29 2016 14:37 GMT
#13
Considering the level of cultish behaviour and fanaticism in Korea nowadays, this isn't that surprising. PGH received orders from this hybrid Buddhist/Shamanism/Christian priest type person who claimed to contact her mother beyond the grave. Politics in SK have usually been pretty corrupt, but having a Rasputin figure behind the curtains is a new one for me. I guess it only serves to add fuel to conspiracy fire.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 29 2016 17:11 GMT
#14
For anyone that understands Korean.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 17:18:28
October 29 2016 17:14 GMT
#15
So, corporations, or just random females? Because from what i see it's just a nobody using influence for her own gain.

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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
October 29 2016 18:02 GMT
#16
On October 30 2016 02:14 lolfail9001 wrote:
So, corporations, or just random females? Because from what i see it's just a nobody using influence for her own gain.



German source (http://www.faz.net/aktuell/rhein-main/hotel-in-schmitten-in-skandal-aus-suedkorea-verwickelt-14501207.html)

The influencing women openend at least 2 letterbox companies here in Germany which might have used to launder money, one, "Blue K" as an IT company, the other is somehow associated to help the south korean olympic horse riders before next olympic games. . The women at least made over 66 Million $ by asking companies and gouvernment in korea for money for here cause(maybe with help of the president?). The Police here in Germany got a report by unknown and is now investigating because of possible money laundring.

But well, South Korea was always the gouvernment of the industrial familys... I just didnt expect that this kind of vodoo girls would have part in this.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 29 2016 18:40 GMT
#17
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http://askakorean.blogspot.ca/2016/10/the-irrational-downfall-of-park-geun-hye.html

Sports columnist Bill Simmons coined the term "Tyson Zone," in which nothing you hear about a particular celebrity can possibly surprise you. Did you hear that Mike Tyson urinated on a police officer? Of course he did! Did you hear that Mike Tyson is attempting to breed unicorns? Of course he is! Given what you already know about Mike Tyson, none you hear about Mike Tyson could possibly surprise you.

With Choi Soon-sil-gate, Park Geun-hye put the entire country into the Tyson Zone. Every insane rumor about the president--the kind that you would see from some remote corner of the internet and laugh off--is now fair game. For years, there have been rumors that the name of Park's political party, the Saenuri Party, is a code name for a cult named shincheonji. Well, why not? We already know that Choi Soon-sil was the one who actually produced Park's inauguration, which featured numerous little multi-colored bags that are used for shamanistic rituals. Would it really surprise you Park Geun-hye named her party after a cult? Did you hear that Choi Soon-sil may have had a hidden son who worked at the presidential residence? Well, why not? We already know Choi made her personal trainer into a presidential aide--what's another hidden son?


This doesn't need to be said but take this with a grain of salt as it's just more for fun on the absurdity of the situation
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Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
No Swear
Profile Joined October 2016
51 Posts
October 29 2016 19:12 GMT
#18
Can't wait for this to get on the news lol
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
October 29 2016 20:11 GMT
#19
On October 30 2016 04:12 No Swear wrote:
Can't wait for this to get on the news lol

Apperently it was in the morning section of bbc (global) news, ny times had a pretty nice article on this already.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
ZerglingSoup
Profile Joined June 2009
United States346 Posts
October 29 2016 23:18 GMT
#20
Some youth are taking to the streets:

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/mass-protest-in-seoul-against-south-korean-president/3245888.html

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