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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
What? First you say "dont blame refugees" and then you blame the refugee crysis yourself? I literally said 'don't blame the refugees blame the people that through their politics created the refugees'. Whats so hard to understand? This has nothing to do with the current refugee situation. ISIS has nothing to do with the refugee situation? The terrorists have been in Europe long before that. Al-Qaeda have came out and condemned the attacks in Paris. You can read into that however you want but these aren't the same terrorists they used to be. also France is being attacked because it fights the IS, not because Gadaffi or whatever. Again, read the post. France (along with others) destroyed the thing keeping Libya together, turning it into a non-state with fertile ground for terrorists and funded many of the "moderate rebel groups" that ended up defecting personnel, giving/selling weapons and vehicles, and "losing" money to ISIS, Al Nusra, Islamic front ect. Taking everything at face value and not looking into the cause of these problems make finding a solution impossible, and history will inevitably repeat itself. edit: Kind of like how if only Bush had watched Rambo 3... | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On November 14 2015 20:57 zeo wrote: ISIS has nothing to do with the refugee situation? I am not sure what you are trying to say with your post because it is all over the place. But what I said was that the bombings have nothign to do with the refugee crisis. It could have happened just as well if we had not let a single refugee in. And it is an answer to attacking ISIS, not to ousting Gadaffi or whatever you try to claim there. Anfd even though it is off topic, since you adressed it: most of the Syrian refugees are Sunni and are actually not fleeing from ISIS but the war in general and the Assad regime in particular. | ||
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fromtenedos
Turkey20 Posts
On November 14 2015 18:41 KT_Elwood wrote: French prisions breed their own terrorists and islamists. And it is possible because people (mostly politicians) who are claiming to support "diversity in society" and "all man are the same" are just tollerating the fact that "brown faced people" are being poor in their country. All put into ghettos or banlieu. But they don't want their own kids to be put in the same school. And since people from banlieu tend to be poor, the won't get education, so they stay poor and lose hope. And with no hope there is no reason not to start dealing drugs. And if you get caught you go to Ghetto-Prision (yes there are nice prisions, for people who dodged taxes and there are.....ghetto prisons for people who never knew who their father was and quit school for dealing drugs.) If we do not seriously try to assimilate ALL people of another cultural backround in western society, we make it super ez for pseudo religious or nationalist groups to create a "new identity" for them, one that gives them some hope for a better life, even if it includes killing 300 innocent people . Mexican or US prisons full or ethnic and racial minorities. Did you see a rampage by these people like we keep having in France? Education is free in France. These people dont want to get education they want to have free money from government of a society they hate. There are 100.000s of north african background people who adapted the french society. And guess what? They live secular lives. Religion is the reason. | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On November 14 2015 21:07 fromtenedos wrote: Mexican or US prisons full or ethnic and racial minorities. Did you see a rampage by these people like we keep having in France? do you live under a rock? | ||
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Gevna
France2332 Posts
On November 14 2015 20:53 ImFromPortugal wrote: People here are saying that now isis will get it hard.. what can France do that is not already being done to isis ? they have been bombed by dozens of different countries and are fighting dozens of other different factions. There is no magic solution. This is just a slow and painful war starting, taking place in France, against terrorism. With his fair share of unfortunate implications (enforcing security's measures, establish some kind of police state) which I think France absolutely doesnt need right now given his awful social and political climate. I dont think there is a need to fight in ISIS's territory to solve the situation. Maybe just to give an impression of strength, but it feels pointless to me. | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
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On November 14 2015 21:08 Ghanburighan wrote: Nothing to do with the refugee crisis? https://twitter.com/mathieuvonrohr/status/665498721543680000 Worst case scenario, god damn it. I mean why the fuck is this information not classified? Why do people even care of terrorists identity? Don't give these fuckers any respect, they are scum that was given birth by scum. But mediawhores will sure make them stars. | ||
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
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dpurple
Turkmenistan592 Posts
On November 14 2015 21:14 ForTehDarkseid wrote: Worst case scenario, god damn it. I mean why the fuck is this information not classified? Why do people even care of terrorists identity? Don't give these fuckers any respect, they are scum that was given birth by scum. But mediawhores will sure make them stars. How is that worst case? Why would it be classified? | ||
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HeatEXTEND
Netherlands836 Posts
No ? Oh well. | ||
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damoonwolf
France98 Posts
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Vivax
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On November 14 2015 21:08 Ghanburighan wrote: Nothing to do with the refugee crisis? https://twitter.com/mathieuvonrohr/status/665498721543680000 I'm a bit sceptical of bomb proof passports, or of people going to a suicide bombing while carrying around their passports. | ||
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kiLen
Finland97 Posts
On November 14 2015 21:30 damoonwolf wrote: Explosion and gunshot would have hear at Bagnolet(Paris) now. Some police's helicoptere on the place... Is there even more gunshots NOW? If so this is beyond terrible. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On November 14 2015 21:26 HeatEXTEND wrote: Anyone remember France jumping at the first opportunity to start unloading on Libya ? No ? Oh well. The police just said this was false information, there is an helicopter but no attack and no terrorists. I told my mother not to come because of this rumor lol. | ||
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damoonwolf
France98 Posts
On November 14 2015 21:34 WhiteDog wrote: The police just said this was false information, there is an helicopter but no attack and no terrorists. I told my mother not to come because of this rumor lol. Good news, people become crazy with all this shit. | ||
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Poland9299 Posts
On November 14 2015 21:34 Vivax wrote: I'm a bit sceptical of bomb proof passports, or of people going to a suicide bombing while carrying around their passports. Yeah that's very weird. Can anyone explain why would a terrorist need a passport for a suicide bombing? | ||
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Nitro68
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Deleted User 137586
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