"Today on Crossfire.nu, Fusen has managed to gain access to one of the biggest cheat-making community websites, netcoders.be, and extract solid proof and personal information on hundreds of cheaters.

Yesterday it was reported that netCoders was forced to shutdown its site due to security issues. This was confirmed by Fusen, who declared that he was the mastermind behind downloading nC's databases."

Full news here: <a href="http://www.ggl.com/news.php?NewsId=4421">Click Me</a>

Discuss.

BlackJack

United States10335 Posts

January 05 2007 11:57 GMT

So he hacked a website to try and find cheaters?

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

January 05 2007 11:57 GMT

Fucking cheaters sucks. Cheating to nab cheaters sucks. Sucks.

azndsh

United States4447 Posts

January 05 2007 11:58 GMT

Owned. Makes you wonder who would pay to get cheats in the first place...

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

January 05 2007 12:01 GMT

Not a very good cheater, thats who.

SCNewb

Canada2210 Posts

January 05 2007 12:01 GMT

whoa iNcontroL that infested terran looks so cool

skyglow1

New Zealand3962 Posts

January 05 2007 12:03 GMT

Incontrol is a infested terran O_O

And on topic rofl at the cheaters.

Seraphim

United States4467 Posts

January 05 2007 12:03 GMT

nice Infested Terran inControl ^^

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

January 05 2007 12:03 GMT

Yeah I was trying to think.. am I the only non staff 6000 poster who has zerg as his race?

BlackJack

United States10335 Posts

January 05 2007 12:09 GMT

#10

I think baal used to have one but I assumed he was given that for being a nutjob

Pressure

7326 Posts

January 05 2007 12:15 GMT

#11

YES.
rofl baal

davidgurt

United States1355 Posts

January 05 2007 12:37 GMT

#12

On January 05 2007 21:15 Pressure wrote:
YES.
rofl baal

Baal and his yet-to-update sex thread.

Bockit

Sydney2287 Posts

January 05 2007 12:50 GMT

#13

Hahaha I liked this in the article...

In response, netCoders has stated they will consider legal actions against Fusen. "Hi 2 u Fusen, you got a serious problem, u know about Law? If not you will see what it is" is currently in the topic of their IRC channel.

I don't know much about the legality of what he did (I'm not talking morally right/wrong, instead legally), does anyone know?

roadrunner_sc

United States1220 Posts

January 05 2007 12:52 GMT

#14

Awww darn it I was all hyped up expecting to see hundreds of starcraft cheaters getting caught.

Oh well, still great news.

SweeTLemonS[TPR]

11739 Posts

January 05 2007 13:21 GMT

#15

I definitely thought this was about the show Cheaters.

NewbSaibot

3849 Posts

January 05 2007 13:43 GMT

#16

What these anti-cheat coders need to do is create some little "cheater sleeper cells" and just buy these private hacks themselves to reverse engineer and integrate their findings into their latest anti-cheat software. Get a small pool goin on. The cheats retail for $100, get 20-30 people to spare a few bucks, i think they'd easily get that many from admins if not the whole damn league organization itself.

davidgurt

United States1355 Posts

January 05 2007 13:48 GMT

#17

I bet Testie's on that list.

FuDDx

United States5007 Posts

January 05 2007 14:00 GMT

#18

On January 05 2007 22:48 davidgurt wrote:
I bet Testie's on that list.

is that really needed....o its 2003-2004? no 2007 so shush plz.

anyway im glad that they have been exposed and hopefully this will teach Fusen to keep quiet about his activities.there may be some legal ramificayions from this.But im not sure and am not a law expert by any stretch of the ole mind.

NewbSaibot

3849 Posts

January 05 2007 14:05 GMT

#19

Actually, this anti-cheat site was banking. The hacker who busted in has made public their cheat buyers database which is their personal list of everyone who purchased one of their cheats. Their cheats sell for $100 each, and they have sold hundreds. I guess it was just a business for them. Nice little supplemental income to say the least.

Another little side tidbit, looking at the cheaters database they have managed to create identifying actual in game player names by doing some extensive auto cross-referencing to ip's and server's and such, a lot of these cheaters all coincidentially have some variant of the name "hax" as part of their name. We've all seen this, some guy jumps into your favorite shooter with a silly name like "i have hax lol!" and he does pretty well, but nothing that immediately looks like computer controlled aim. For the longest time i always felt deep down inside this was some sort of reverse psychological trick, your classic "hiding in plain sight" ploy, such as what kind of cheater advertises his presence? Ah shucks he must not be cheating after all, he just has a sense of humor! Either that, or some sick seeded desire to confess by giving hints as to your true cheating sense. Either way i've always kept my eye on people who "joke around about cheating" and now i think ill forever assume they are, since these lists show many many people subtly give away the fact that theyre cheating.

NewbSaibot

3849 Posts

January 05 2007 14:12 GMT

#20

Heh, check this out, Interview with a cheater. This guy was part of the netcoders cheating ring. But what does he do? He denies cheating on the game most people would be mad about, and instead freely admits to cheating on less popular games because [they are so boring it's the only thing i can make fun out of it]. This guy was an admin for an anti-cheating site. He stood head and shoulders above others accusing people whom he thought were cheating, striving to make the community a better place. And a cheater himself all along. (FYI, im definitely not buying this garbage that he paid money to cheat on an unpopular game he doesnt even like, but that he would never cheat on his favorite game which he plays for competitively).

Sick fucking bastards. It's like i always say, examine someones passions and conclude the opposite about them. Priests, lawmakers, game players. Whenever someone stands out in a crowd, assume the worst, the very very worst.