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rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
March 20 2013 07:30 GMT
#15821
High thread needs this asap.
Jimi
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
randommuch
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States370 Posts
March 25 2013 04:39 GMT
#15822
blue dream shatta

afghoo wax

together they form the perfect high i must confess.
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." Genesis 1:29
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
March 25 2013 05:01 GMT
#15823
I hate dabs! I'll stick to the natural herb!
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
March 25 2013 05:15 GMT
#15824
On March 19 2013 10:40 Saturnize wrote:
I am using a bong for the first time in awhile, but all the while I've been vaporizing. I must say this is the highest I've been in awhile. Its like I experience a better high from smoking... Does anyone else feel this way?


Yeah... some people swear by vapes, but I still prefer bongs.
Towelie.635
randommuch
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States370 Posts
March 25 2013 16:43 GMT
#15825
My morning was ruined to hear my friend was selling his piece.
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An ounce of oil for it though, not all bad i suppose.
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." Genesis 1:29
my0s
Profile Joined March 2010
United States193 Posts
March 26 2013 00:59 GMT
#15826
Figure this is as good a place as any to go for this.

Ok so I was smoking for about 2 months fairly regularly. And then I started to get pretty severe panic attacks while smoking, and it kinda just ruined it for me. Some times to the point where I swear I was going to have a heart attack or just outright die. So a little more than nervous.

I had smoked in the past years off and on for short times on occasions, few days, maybe a week at a time every few months. And it was always fine/fun. But after I hit that point during that prolonged stint, there was no going back. Basically every single time I tried smoking, even as much as one hit would send me into a panic.

Now heres the thing. I was also very depressed and had a lot going on during this specific time. So I think that the smoking was just a catalyst and not the cause of the anxiety. So I stopped smoking and was fine for about a month, when out of nowhere I started getting severe panic attacks for no reason, completely sober. It lasted for weeks and I was having trouble sleeping and eating, and overall just horrible experience and textbook anxiety disorder.

After about 2 weeks of that it calmed down a bit. I started some therapy and got on some meds (celexa and klonopin) which b/w the 2 stopped it completely almost and I have feel more or less normal for a month or two now.

Now heres the question. 1.) Agree or disagree that it was the pot that caused the attacks, or just brought them out of me from other things in my life. 2.) Can/should I try smoking again? I really want to, because when it was good I enjoyed the hell out of it. Plus I can probably take 2-3mg or kpin to offset any panic should it happen or at least help reduce it.

Anyone else ever been in this position, and had success starting smoking again? Its not like a pothead or anything and my life will be fine without it, but I mean, its enjoyable. So stands to reason I would want to enjoy it from time to time.

A bit of TL;DR in here, but thanks in advance for any advice.
AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 02:31:27
March 26 2013 02:31 GMT
#15827
I would figure out the cause of anxiety first. From what I understand, as of now you're only overcoming it with meds? Might not be the best idea to mix things up. Weed can trigger panic/manic episodes, maybe its a matter of settings or quantity. I'm by no mean an expert but I advise caution or moderation
Driven by hate, fueled by rage
justsayinbro
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
307 Posts
March 26 2013 03:19 GMT
#15828
anyone feel like smoking is affecting his sc2 performance drastically?

I swear if I played sober my apm would triple, minimap awareness exponentially, and cycling of mechanics x 10000, but I'm high whenever I play sc2...
Aries1066
Profile Joined March 2011
United States18 Posts
March 26 2013 03:33 GMT
#15829
On March 20 2013 16:30 rel wrote:
High thread needs this asap.
Jimi


That was the coolest guitar of Jimi i've heard. sick song suggest man.
haffy
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom430 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 03:44:24
March 26 2013 03:43 GMT
#15830
On March 26 2013 09:59 my0s wrote:
Figure this is as good a place as any to go for this.

Ok so I was smoking for about 2 months fairly regularly. And then I started to get pretty severe panic attacks while smoking, and it kinda just ruined it for me. Some times to the point where I swear I was going to have a heart attack or just outright die. So a little more than nervous.

I had smoked in the past years off and on for short times on occasions, few days, maybe a week at a time every few months. And it was always fine/fun. But after I hit that point during that prolonged stint, there was no going back. Basically every single time I tried smoking, even as much as one hit would send me into a panic.

Now heres the thing. I was also very depressed and had a lot going on during this specific time. So I think that the smoking was just a catalyst and not the cause of the anxiety. So I stopped smoking and was fine for about a month, when out of nowhere I started getting severe panic attacks for no reason, completely sober. It lasted for weeks and I was having trouble sleeping and eating, and overall just horrible experience and textbook anxiety disorder.

After about 2 weeks of that it calmed down a bit. I started some therapy and got on some meds (celexa and klonopin) which b/w the 2 stopped it completely almost and I have feel more or less normal for a month or two now.

Now heres the question. 1.) Agree or disagree that it was the pot that caused the attacks, or just brought them out of me from other things in my life. 2.) Can/should I try smoking again? I really want to, because when it was good I enjoyed the hell out of it. Plus I can probably take 2-3mg or kpin to offset any panic should it happen or at least help reduce it.

Anyone else ever been in this position, and had success starting smoking again? Its not like a pothead or anything and my life will be fine without it, but I mean, its enjoyable. So stands to reason I would want to enjoy it from time to time.

A bit of TL;DR in here, but thanks in advance for any advice.


Since it looks like you're associating weed with panic attacks, whether or not it's the cause, it's probably a good idea to just stop for the foreseeable future.

But panic attacks are a pretty complicated subject. It can be triggered from quite a large amount of different stimuli from social anxiety, stress and biological reasons. I think the best advice would just to be reduce any unnecessary stress you have going on, take on less responsibility and just relax more.

Also, I'm not trained in anyway to understand or give advice on something like this. So take my advice with a pinch of salt.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
March 26 2013 03:46 GMT
#15831
On March 26 2013 09:59 my0s wrote:
Now heres the question. 1.) Agree or disagree that it was the pot that caused the attacks, or just brought them out of me from other things in my life. 2.) Can/should I try smoking again? I really want to, because when it was good I enjoyed the hell out of it. Plus I can probably take 2-3mg or kpin to offset any panic should it happen or at least help reduce it.

Anyone else ever been in this position, and had success starting smoking again? Its not like a pothead or anything and my life will be fine without it, but I mean, its enjoyable. So stands to reason I would want to enjoy it from time to time.

A bit of TL;DR in here, but thanks in advance for any advice.


There's something else that bothers you in relation to act of smoking weed and being high. You said you were under a bit of depression; speaking of experience, if you feel like you hate yourself for smoking weed during this period of depression, that could most definitely be a source of anxiety.

starleague forever
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
March 26 2013 04:01 GMT
#15832
On March 13 2013 11:26 randommuch wrote:
Just get a volcano. Stop fooling around with pens and get yourself a real man's vape.


i sold mine a long time ago. high just wasnt the same as smoking.
starleague forever
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 04:10:43
March 26 2013 04:07 GMT
#15833
On March 26 2013 09:59 my0s wrote:
Figure this is as good a place as any to go for this.

Ok so I was smoking for about 2 months fairly regularly. And then I started to get pretty severe panic attacks while smoking, and it kinda just ruined it for me. Some times to the point where I swear I was going to have a heart attack or just outright die. So a little more than nervous.

I had smoked in the past years off and on for short times on occasions, few days, maybe a week at a time every few months. And it was always fine/fun. But after I hit that point during that prolonged stint, there was no going back. Basically every single time I tried smoking, even as much as one hit would send me into a panic.

Now heres the thing. I was also very depressed and had a lot going on during this specific time. So I think that the smoking was just a catalyst and not the cause of the anxiety. So I stopped smoking and was fine for about a month, when out of nowhere I started getting severe panic attacks for no reason, completely sober. It lasted for weeks and I was having trouble sleeping and eating, and overall just horrible experience and textbook anxiety disorder.

After about 2 weeks of that it calmed down a bit. I started some therapy and got on some meds (celexa and klonopin) which b/w the 2 stopped it completely almost and I have feel more or less normal for a month or two now.

Now heres the question. 1.) Agree or disagree that it was the pot that caused the attacks, or just brought them out of me from other things in my life. 2.) Can/should I try smoking again? I really want to, because when it was good I enjoyed the hell out of it. Plus I can probably take 2-3mg or kpin to offset any panic should it happen or at least help reduce it.

Anyone else ever been in this position, and had success starting smoking again? Its not like a pothead or anything and my life will be fine without it, but I mean, its enjoyable. So stands to reason I would want to enjoy it from time to time.

A bit of TL;DR in here, but thanks in advance for any advice.


Hey man, same thing happened to me, and its actually pretty common. Lots of people get panic attacks. I used to smoke a ton, my tolerance was super high, id smoke and feel high yet normal and i never experienced a single panic attack.
Eventually though, i went through a pretty rough time in my life, broke up with a girl along with some other things, and at that point smoking started giving me panic attacks, like the ones you described and they're pretty terrifying. They eventually went away but i was never really able to smoke as much as before without getting them even until today. After a while of them having gone away and my life improving, i hit another rough patch in life and even though i stopped smoking for fear of these terrible panic attacks such as you described, i would get them and get severe anxiety. These panic attacks stopped eventually (the ones without having smoked weed) because once again shit got better, but smoking large amounts of weed still usually triggers a panic attack, although i've learned to sort of think/reason through them by remembering that weed won't kill you and its just an irrational fear, although tbh it doesn't always work. I, like yourself, also enjoy smoking weed alot lol so it sucks to have these panic attacks HOWEVER i disagree that you should just give up weed altogether. I have honestly found a method that works for me which i use daily and it lets me enjoy smoking weed without any sever panic attacks. What i do is i basically limit myself to taking two hits and STOP. Now, its sort of hard to stop smoking after two hits because of the delayed reaction your body has to weed wherein it takes about 5-10 mins for you to feel the high after inhaling it so its very easy to feel like "oh i can keep smoking no problem i dont feel high yet" but that is a mistake and will likely trigger a panic attack.

Do this, Im fairly sure it will help you: Just take two full hits of bud the next time you smoke (i mean inhale once/exhale once, then inhale another time/exhale a second time) and stop even though you feel completely sober. Give it 5 mins and you'll feel great. Another good thing about this method is weed lasts you a really long time. Instead of me smoking a whole entire joint (about .6 grams) and being ridiculously high, i just smoke throughout the day and maintain a really good level of being high while at the same time not being so high that i cant function properly or do important tasks and so on. It lets you enjoy the high while allowing you to be productive and functional. Give it a shot and see if this helps you the way it did myself. Also, make sure you don't have like any seriously depressing recent events (such as a bad breakup, etc.) because these things trigger anxiety alongside weed.
good luck happy toking
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
March 26 2013 20:40 GMT
#15834
On March 26 2013 09:59 my0s wrote:
Figure this is as good a place as any to go for this.

Ok so I was smoking for about 2 months fairly regularly. And then I started to get pretty severe panic attacks while smoking, and it kinda just ruined it for me. Some times to the point where I swear I was going to have a heart attack or just outright die. So a little more than nervous.

I had smoked in the past years off and on for short times on occasions, few days, maybe a week at a time every few months. And it was always fine/fun. But after I hit that point during that prolonged stint, there was no going back. Basically every single time I tried smoking, even as much as one hit would send me into a panic.

Now heres the thing. I was also very depressed and had a lot going on during this specific time. So I think that the smoking was just a catalyst and not the cause of the anxiety. So I stopped smoking and was fine for about a month, when out of nowhere I started getting severe panic attacks for no reason, completely sober. It lasted for weeks and I was having trouble sleeping and eating, and overall just horrible experience and textbook anxiety disorder.

After about 2 weeks of that it calmed down a bit. I started some therapy and got on some meds (celexa and klonopin) which b/w the 2 stopped it completely almost and I have feel more or less normal for a month or two now.

Now heres the question. 1.) Agree or disagree that it was the pot that caused the attacks, or just brought them out of me from other things in my life. 2.) Can/should I try smoking again? I really want to, because when it was good I enjoyed the hell out of it. Plus I can probably take 2-3mg or kpin to offset any panic should it happen or at least help reduce it.

Anyone else ever been in this position, and had success starting smoking again? Its not like a pothead or anything and my life will be fine without it, but I mean, its enjoyable. So stands to reason I would want to enjoy it from time to time.

A bit of TL;DR in here, but thanks in advance for any advice.


Same thing happened to me, but it was the first time i smoked and after a while i got panic attacks when i didnt even smoke. Had those for about 2~ years on and off. The thing i did was i started smoking again just to learn how to endure the panic attacks and realize that they're NOT dangerous in anyway. Its simply the "fight or flight" response kicking in. The first few times i smoked i got pretty severe anxiety but nowadays its completely gone. Had some depression alongside my panic attacks for those 2 years but they're all gone now.

They usually go away after a while, you stop "thinking about it" and pretty much forget you have this "disorder" and your life goes back to normal. It was a hard 2 years and i became pretty antisocial and i was really anxious when i was around ppl i didnt know.

I know what you're going through and my best advice is to power through it, learn that this is not life-threatening and how to control your panic. The first times might not be pleasent but if you can relax and enjoy it while you're smoking, you're gonna be fine when you aren't smoking because the anxiety levels are nowhere near the same.!

goodluck and keep us updated on how you're doing
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
March 26 2013 20:47 GMT
#15835
On March 26 2013 12:19 justsayinbro wrote:
anyone feel like smoking is affecting his sc2 performance drastically?

I swear if I played sober my apm would triple, minimap awareness exponentially, and cycling of mechanics x 10000, but I'm high whenever I play sc2...

not unless you smoke for like 10 hours in a row from the moment you wake up all day...

whenever i played sc2 stoned i enjoyed it much more and it didnt really effect my play unless i was so burnt out i couldnt function
BarneyNapalm
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark370 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 21:37:42
March 26 2013 21:36 GMT
#15836
On March 26 2013 09:59 my0s wrote:
Figure this is as good a place as any to go for this.

Ok so I was smoking for about 2 months fairly regularly. And then I started to get pretty severe panic attacks while smoking, and it kinda just ruined it for me. Some times to the point where I swear I was going to have a heart attack or just outright die. So a little more than nervous.

I had smoked in the past years off and on for short times on occasions, few days, maybe a week at a time every few months. And it was always fine/fun. But after I hit that point during that prolonged stint, there was no going back. Basically every single time I tried smoking, even as much as one hit would send me into a panic.

Now heres the thing. I was also very depressed and had a lot going on during this specific time. So I think that the smoking was just a catalyst and not the cause of the anxiety. So I stopped smoking and was fine for about a month, when out of nowhere I started getting severe panic attacks for no reason, completely sober. It lasted for weeks and I was having trouble sleeping and eating, and overall just horrible experience and textbook anxiety disorder.

After about 2 weeks of that it calmed down a bit. I started some therapy and got on some meds (celexa and klonopin) which b/w the 2 stopped it completely almost and I have feel more or less normal for a month or two now.

Now heres the question. 1.) Agree or disagree that it was the pot that caused the attacks, or just brought them out of me from other things in my life. 2.) Can/should I try smoking again? I really want to, because when it was good I enjoyed the hell out of it. Plus I can probably take 2-3mg or kpin to offset any panic should it happen or at least help reduce it.

Anyone else ever been in this position, and had success starting smoking again? Its not like a pothead or anything and my life will be fine without it, but I mean, its enjoyable. So stands to reason I would want to enjoy it from time to time.

A bit of TL;DR in here, but thanks in advance for any advice.


Hey man. First of all, I am very sorry to hear about it. Having panic attacks are never nice, ESPECIALLY when high, god that shit's rough.
anyway, as I've been/are through the same thing as you I'll try to give you the best advice I can.
It really depends if there is anything else in your life. Are you having troubles, worries or anything related that hasn't got anything to do with? if so - that's probably it. Weed alone can of course induce or cause panic attacks but I think that there's usually something underlying thats causing it.
My advice would be to completely stop smoking until you've sorted anything related to what might be the cause. Even if you don't think there is something causing you trouble there might be. What I am doing right now is to completely avoid weed and even alcohol, and it does my a hell of alot of good so far. Try to fix your sleep scheduele, eat healthy, exercise and try to do creative things instead of just sitting at the computer. (I don't know how much you do of these, but these advices are good general things to do anyway, might do it while you're at it)
and the most important thing is to somehow "embrace it" - you're not going to die or anything related, but it is basicly your brain overheating, and then overheating due to overheating. (does it make sense?)
I am looking for same kind of advice anyway. Have been going through a real rough time lately, with family having very serious illness. That and weed were a bad combination. When you have sorted this out, can smoking weed again be a good idea? Since when I had a real cool time, I really really enjoyed it, and somehow I want to enjoy it again..

Edit: feel free to PM or give a heads up about how you feel. best of luck.
froGGifyre
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States213 Posts
March 28 2013 03:06 GMT
#15837
Whats up guys, just wanted to say I've started an instagram @xcolieglass for all your BORO AMERICAN MADE art , send me a message yall.
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my0s
Profile Joined March 2010
United States193 Posts
March 28 2013 05:43 GMT
#15838
Wow, thanks for all the support on my situation guys, didn't expect that much interest/understanding and even relating. Thanks for everyone who shared their story.

So after the intial OP panic attack, i decided to smoke again the night I made the OP, which would have been the first time in 5 or more months. Just took it slow did one hit at a time, maybe 2 hits total for a night over hours. Went pretty well. I felt the onset of the panic sometimes but I could also understand it better this time and do little tricks to snap me out of it, a quick, short, complex or imprtant task usually makes me realize im alright and can snap out of it. And just kinda got carried away with the high.

I'm also on about 3mgs -ish of kpin during this. Have done it 2 more times since thing including right now and it seems to mostly go well. Still scary at times and im not sure im ready to jump right back into it yet. But at least I know I can control it to an extent. And affirm thats its all in my head. Pot never killed anyone, ever, before as far as I know right?

Anyway thought id say thanks and give a status update
BarneyNapalm
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark370 Posts
March 28 2013 09:46 GMT
#15839
On March 28 2013 14:43 my0s wrote:
Wow, thanks for all the support on my situation guys, didn't expect that much interest/understanding and even relating. Thanks for everyone who shared their story.

So after the intial OP panic attack, i decided to smoke again the night I made the OP, which would have been the first time in 5 or more months. Just took it slow did one hit at a time, maybe 2 hits total for a night over hours. Went pretty well. I felt the onset of the panic sometimes but I could also understand it better this time and do little tricks to snap me out of it, a quick, short, complex or imprtant task usually makes me realize im alright and can snap out of it. And just kinda got carried away with the high.

I'm also on about 3mgs -ish of kpin during this. Have done it 2 more times since thing including right now and it seems to mostly go well. Still scary at times and im not sure im ready to jump right back into it yet. But at least I know I can control it to an extent. And affirm thats its all in my head. Pot never killed anyone, ever, before as far as I know right?

Anyway thought id say thanks and give a status update


You're absolutely right that pot hasn't kill anyone ever. Its basicly impossible to die from smoking.

If you still feel like the panic is arising etc, waiting a bit more might be a good idea. I mean why not wait till' you're fully okay and enjoy it even more? :D glad to hear its going better btw!
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
March 28 2013 13:03 GMT
#15840
After a break from drug abuse I will take some mushrooms I collected in the autumn today after work. I am really excited and look very forward to it, can't wait
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