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Telenil
Profile Joined September 2010
France484 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 14:50:50
January 07 2015 14:50 GMT
#181
On January 07 2015 23:47 Boonbag wrote:
ppl killing because of religion since 2000 years...

so lets stop with all the fundamentalist non fundamentalist crap
every religion process is fundamental
People have been killing each other for any reason. Greed, power, religion, women, freedom (or lack thereof), national pride. There are criminals everywhere, the pretext they use to butcher innocents is irrelevant.
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
January 07 2015 14:50 GMT
#182
On January 07 2015 23:49 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:47 Boonbag wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:45 Doublemint wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:43 heliusx wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.

They killed these people because they do cartoons of the muslim religion. How blind are you willing to be in the name of political correctness?


is it political correctness to differentiate between islam and fundamentalist islamists...?


ppl killing because of religion since 2000 years...

so lets stop with all the fundamentalist non fundamentalist crap
every religion process is fundamental
you read crazy shit you end up doing crazy shit that's about it

mein kampf was a nation wide best seller


So u agree that religion is the greatest tool of controlling ppls brains? No religions = no fundamentals wars, at all, never.


its not about control its about collective hysteria
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 14:52:28
January 07 2015 14:50 GMT
#183
On January 07 2015 23:49 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:47 Boonbag wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:45 Doublemint wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:43 heliusx wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.

They killed these people because they do cartoons of the muslim religion. How blind are you willing to be in the name of political correctness?


is it political correctness to differentiate between islam and fundamentalist islamists...?


ppl killing because of religion since 2000 years...

so lets stop with all the fundamentalist non fundamentalist crap
every religion process is fundamental
you read crazy shit you end up doing crazy shit that's about it

mein kampf was a nation wide best seller


So u agree that religion is the greatest tool of controlling ppls brains? No religions = no fundamentals wars, at all, never.


I'm certain that if its not religion, people will find something else to fight over.


Also was the Mein Kampf comment really necessary? Completely different thing... Although it shows how easy it is to find something else to find over. Saying "you read crazy shit" is incredibly rude though. I for sure didn't.
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
January 07 2015 14:51 GMT
#184
On January 07 2015 23:49 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:43 heliusx wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.

They killed these people because they do cartoons of the muslim religion. How blind are you willing to be in the name of political correctness?

It's not about blinding oneself. It's to recognize that what we are talking about is a very specific interpretation of a religion by completely sectarian people.

I dislike all religions for various reason, but saying that this is a deed of islam is like saying that "the left" is responsible for the crimes of the Marxist guerilla in south america or that Breivik's crime in Norway proves that christianity is evil.

QFT.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 07 2015 14:51 GMT
#185
On January 07 2015 23:41 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.


It wasnt a mistake, those bloody action forced by a specific religion.


Breivik.
Zest fanboy.
Majax
Profile Joined December 2014
France816 Posts
January 07 2015 14:52 GMT
#186
Charlie Hebdo's staff was made of tolerant, sarcastic and funny people. 9 of them died today.

Seing people using that to promote hatred makes me sick.

Please stop, in memory of those people who died.
Can't take LMS hipsters serious
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
January 07 2015 14:52 GMT
#187
On January 07 2015 23:50 Telenil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:47 Boonbag wrote:
ppl killing because of religion since 2000 years...

so lets stop with all the fundamentalist non fundamentalist crap
every religion process is fundamental
People have been killing each other for any reason. Greed, power religion, women, freedom (or lack thereof), national pride. There are criminals everywhere, the pretext they use to butcher innocents is irrelevant.


there is a vast difference in stating that there is an after life and that for all you know you can die here and be reborn somewhere

i think if these ppl didn't believe in immortality they would be more scared in losing their life
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7953 Posts
January 07 2015 14:53 GMT
#188
On January 07 2015 23:47 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:45 Doublemint wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:43 heliusx wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.

They killed these people because they do cartoons of the muslim religion. How blind are you willing to be in the name of political correctness?


is it political correctness to differentiate between islam and fundamentalist islamists...?


ppl killing because of religion since 2000 years...

so lets stop with all the fundamentalist non fundamentalist crap
every religion process is fundamental
you read crazy shit you end up doing crazy shit that's about it

mein kampf was a nation wide best seller

Meni kampf has nothing to do with religion. If anything it shows that people can find other reason than an invisible man in the sky to justify their atrocities.

I know plenty of extremely tolerant and nice christians, jews and muslims. Every ideology can turn crazy and monstrous if you really want it to back up your crimes. Millions of people have been killed in the name of marxism, I read Marx, and I can tell you he didn't ask for it. Now you can strongly dislike Marx, but dislike him for what he said, not for what people did in his name. Same goes for religions. I dislike Islam as I dislike Christianity, but certainly not because some lunatic morons kill people in its name. (Usually they don't know anything about Islam at all, actually.)
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
January 07 2015 14:53 GMT
#189
On January 07 2015 23:49 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:47 Boonbag wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:45 Doublemint wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:43 heliusx wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.

They killed these people because they do cartoons of the muslim religion. How blind are you willing to be in the name of political correctness?


is it political correctness to differentiate between islam and fundamentalist islamists...?


ppl killing because of religion since 2000 years...

so lets stop with all the fundamentalist non fundamentalist crap
every religion process is fundamental
you read crazy shit you end up doing crazy shit that's about it

mein kampf was a nation wide best seller


So u agree that religion is the greatest tool of controlling ppls brains? No religions = no fundamentals wars, at all, never.


The fact is I can understand many Years ago, when we don't understand some problems or some major problems (climatic...disease, sickness...), some guy create a "religion" that can made you believe in something.
But now, we understand absolutely all. Haw people can be still religious ?

This is not the topic but I think it worth one.
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
January 07 2015 14:53 GMT
#190
On January 07 2015 23:51 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:41 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.


It wasnt a mistake, those bloody action forced by a specific religion.


Breivik.

You have to be really simple minded to not understand the fundamental differences in these two incidents.
dude bro.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12381 Posts
January 07 2015 14:53 GMT
#191
There is no universe in which this is a conversation that ends well...
No will to live, no wish to die
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 14:54:37
January 07 2015 14:53 GMT
#192
On January 07 2015 23:50 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:49 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:47 Boonbag wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:45 Doublemint wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:43 heliusx wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.

They killed these people because they do cartoons of the muslim religion. How blind are you willing to be in the name of political correctness?


is it political correctness to differentiate between islam and fundamentalist islamists...?


ppl killing because of religion since 2000 years...

so lets stop with all the fundamentalist non fundamentalist crap
every religion process is fundamental
you read crazy shit you end up doing crazy shit that's about it

mein kampf was a nation wide best seller


So u agree that religion is the greatest tool of controlling ppls brains? No religions = no fundamentals wars, at all, never.


I'm certain that if its not religion, people will find something else to fight over.


Also was the Mein Kampf comment really necessary? Completely different thing... Although it shows how easy it is to find something else to find over. Saying "you read crazy shit" is incredibly rude though. I for sure didn't.


lol now come and tell me that the three holy books aren't professing crazy ass shit
wtf
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 14:54:29
January 07 2015 14:54 GMT
#193
Please do not start this debate, it's going to be useless and a lose of time for us.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
January 07 2015 14:54 GMT
#194
On January 07 2015 23:53 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:50 KeksX wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:49 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:47 Boonbag wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:45 Doublemint wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:43 heliusx wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.

They killed these people because they do cartoons of the muslim religion. How blind are you willing to be in the name of political correctness?


is it political correctness to differentiate between islam and fundamentalist islamists...?


ppl killing because of religion since 2000 years...

so lets stop with all the fundamentalist non fundamentalist crap
every religion process is fundamental
you read crazy shit you end up doing crazy shit that's about it

mein kampf was a nation wide best seller


So u agree that religion is the greatest tool of controlling ppls brains? No religions = no fundamentals wars, at all, never.


I'm certain that if its not religion, people will find something else to fight over.


Also was the Mein Kampf comment really necessary? Completely different thing... Although it shows how easy it is to find something else to find over. Saying "you read crazy shit" is incredibly rude though. I for sure didn't.


lol now come and tell me that the three holy books are professing crazy ass shit
wtf


I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to say here? Can you elaborate?
Verrou
Profile Joined July 2013
France193 Posts
January 07 2015 14:54 GMT
#195
On January 07 2015 23:43 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.

They killed these people because they do cartoons of the muslim religion. How blind are you willing to be in the name of political correctness?


And how blind are you not to see that two armed men do not represent the other millions of people who live normal lives? Are you saying that since some american shootings happened to have christian perpetrators christianity is bad as a whole? Or atheism, for what I care?

These people are murderers and their religion doesn't matter.
Black^ / n0tail / Misery / Lanm - Nyx/Windrunner/Slardar
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
January 07 2015 14:54 GMT
#196
On January 07 2015 23:53 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:51 sAsImre wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:41 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.


It wasnt a mistake, those bloody action forced by a specific religion.


Breivik.

You have to be really simple minded to not understand the fundamental differences in these two incidents.

OMFG u r so disgusting.

User was warned for this post
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
January 07 2015 14:55 GMT
#197
On January 07 2015 23:45 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:42 VelJa wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:41 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.


It wasnt a mistake, those bloody action forced by a specific religion.

"by a specific kind of people who had a particular vision of her religion"


If u are not in any religion, than there is no possible ways or reasons for u to do any kind of bloody revenge cause of funny cartoons.


Lets set a scenario:
You lost both your parents or your whole family or your kid in a tragic but somehow public event. It happened in some way that it made a public debate and/or in the press.
Now, every once in a while a couple of cartoonist or magazine makes a satirical drawing about this, drawings of this event in a provocative way, relevant or not, the event that devestated you, that ruined you.
Put into the equation that you maybe have a history of slight mental instability.

Another scenario:
All school shootings in USA are not religous in any way, still its about revenge or getting back at somebody for words or another way of non-bullying.

These event have nothing to do with religion and everything to do with some crazy individuals that use religion as an EXCUSE.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
January 07 2015 14:55 GMT
#198
On January 07 2015 23:51 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:41 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.


It wasnt a mistake, those bloody action forced by a specific religion.


Breivik.


Once a decade? Century? It was an exception. And how many things we had due to religion terrorists in last 10 years?

And do u remember, who was attacked by him? Don't u see the real reason was mainly cultural differences, which mainly comes from RELIGION.
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
January 07 2015 14:55 GMT
#199
On January 07 2015 23:54 Verrou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 23:43 heliusx wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:35 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 07 2015 23:17 SatedSC2 wrote:
I bloody hate religion.

I truly do.


You have your right to do so, but this is not religion. Do not make the terrible mistake of putting everyone in the same basket.

This is the first step towards even more violence and hatred.

They killed these people because they do cartoons of the muslim religion. How blind are you willing to be in the name of political correctness?


And how blind are you not to see that two armed men do not represent the other millions of people who live normal lives? Are you saying that since some american shootings happened to have christian perpetrators christianity is bad as a whole? Or atheism, for what I care?

These people are murderers and their religion doesn't matter.


im sorry the cause always matters wtf r u on
Telenil
Profile Joined September 2010
France484 Posts
January 07 2015 14:55 GMT
#200
On January 07 2015 23:53 heliusx wrote:
You have to be really simple minded to not understand the fundamental differences in these two incidents.
Then I have to be simple-minded. Enlighten me.
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