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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 17:38:51
July 22 2016 17:33 GMT
#9941
On July 23 2016 02:31 Sent. wrote:
It looks like he missed all those people from like 5 meters lol


The first target he was aiming at was a maybe 13 year old girl. How's it funny that he missed, considering that you KNOW he hit - you just don't know who?

edit: second situation at Stachus is confirmed, unclear what happened. People running from there, crying, screaming. Many heavily armed policemen there.

Also:

Police now urging civs to not take pictures of police measures, with the remark "don't help them!".

That's confirming that they're still alive.
On track to MA1950A.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 17:37:30
July 22 2016 17:37 GMT
#9942
not sure if this is confirmed to be the shooter / one of the shooters but seems like it :
+ Show Spoiler +


Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9325 Posts
July 22 2016 17:37 GMT
#9943
I don't know he hit, I thought the video was from the second shooting so I thought it's possible that he didn't kill anyone. Which makes him a bad shooter. Which is funny in a way that he failed, it's good when they fail.
You're now breathing manually
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 17:42:21
July 22 2016 17:40 GMT
#9944
On July 23 2016 02:37 Sent. wrote:
I don't know he hit, I thought the video was from the second shooting so I thought it's possible that he didn't kill anyone. Which makes him a bad shooter. Which is funny in a way that he failed, it's good when they fail.


The shooting started in front of a McDonalds, as was made clear beforehand.



"Rumors of second shooting heard. Situation still unclear! Please avoid public transport and places."
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 22 2016 17:42 GMT
#9945
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9240 Posts
July 22 2016 17:42 GMT
#9946
Someone on reddit pointed out it's the same date as Breivik's rampage 5 years ago, could be some 'fan'
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 17:46:53
July 22 2016 17:43 GMT
#9947
On July 23 2016 02:42 Dan HH wrote:
Someone on reddit pointed out it's the same date as Breivik's rampage 5 years ago, could be some 'fan'


Breivik was a Nazi. The shooter seen in front of the McD and on that roof is not. I doubt he knows the name Breivik.

edit: that's just me though, still possible. Certainly a strange coincidence.
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 17:49:37
July 22 2016 17:47 GMT
#9948
On July 23 2016 02:27 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 02:25 m4ini wrote:
There appears to be a video of the shooting now. Not sure if i'm allowed to link, it's graphic. Also unconfirmed.

https://pr0gramm.com/new/1424747

If it's inappropriate, someone remove it.


Show nested quote +
NICHTS GEFUNDEN ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


doesn't work

I don't understand that no one in a car don't just run him over...

On July 23 2016 02:37 Nyxisto wrote:
not sure if this is confirmed to be the shooter / one of the shooters but seems like it :
+ Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/756539012551176194

What are they saying ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
July 22 2016 17:48 GMT
#9949
german tv news shortly ago:
Munich shooting
Trump
Oslo/Utoya commemoration
Borussia Dortmund playing a random friendly in china, some more football news.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 17:52:56
July 22 2016 17:52 GMT
#9950
Multiple perps confirmed, all alive and on the run:



We don't know where the perps are at the moment. Take care and avoid the public enviroment.
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 17:58:39
July 22 2016 17:55 GMT
#9951
On July 23 2016 02:47 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 02:27 Sent. wrote:
On July 23 2016 02:25 m4ini wrote:
There appears to be a video of the shooting now. Not sure if i'm allowed to link, it's graphic. Also unconfirmed.

https://pr0gramm.com/new/1424747

If it's inappropriate, someone remove it.


NICHTS GEFUNDEN ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


doesn't work

I don't understand that no one in a car don't just run him over...

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 02:37 Nyxisto wrote:
not sure if this is confirmed to be the shooter / one of the shooters but seems like it :
+ Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/756539012551176194

What are they saying ?


Throwing insults at each other. Interesting parts: "I'm a german, i'm born in germany", - "you're a wanker, that's what you are, fucking "Kanacke" (derogatory term for turks etc). Something about Hartz4 (german welfare), couldn't hear the rest out. Then some russian.

Hard to hear clearly though, especially since they're speaking with a bavarian accent, which i can barely understand when spoken normally, not shouted across 50m of space. Bit like scottish english.
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9240 Posts
July 22 2016 17:56 GMT
#9952
On July 23 2016 02:43 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 02:42 Dan HH wrote:
Someone on reddit pointed out it's the same date as Breivik's rampage 5 years ago, could be some 'fan'


Breivik was a Nazi. The shooter seen in front of the McD and on that roof is not. I doubt he knows the name Breivik.

edit: that's just me though, still possible. Certainly a strange coincidence.

Can't really tell anything about that guy from the video, but yeah it's probably the safer assumption that this is islam related and the Breivik thing is just a coincidence
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 18:03:15
July 22 2016 17:57 GMT
#9953
On July 23 2016 02:56 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 02:43 m4ini wrote:
On July 23 2016 02:42 Dan HH wrote:
Someone on reddit pointed out it's the same date as Breivik's rampage 5 years ago, could be some 'fan'


Breivik was a Nazi. The shooter seen in front of the McD and on that roof is not. I doubt he knows the name Breivik.

edit: that's just me though, still possible. Certainly a strange coincidence.

Can't really tell anything about that guy from the video, but yeah it's probably the safer assumption that this is islam related and the Breivik thing is just a coincidence


The shooter on the roof stated "i'm german, i'm born in germany" though, so lets not dismiss it entirely immediately.

sidenote: the guy on the balcony talking to the shooter has balls of steel though, throwing insults being generally infuriated even after he got shot at - he didn't go, you know, back in the house or something - he continued throwing insults at him.

edit: police forces from Nuremberg are now on route to reinforce munich police.

edit2:

https://www.facebook.com/polizeimuenchen/posts/942509029228179

Police confirming witnesses stating three shooters, no perp in custody.
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
July 22 2016 18:02 GMT
#9954
facebook post by munich police. New information:
Shooting started on the streets (probably) close to the shopping centre.
Witnesses speak of 3 people with guns.
None arrested as of now.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
July 22 2016 18:03 GMT
#9955
There is another thread up

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/511956-shooting-in-munich-shopping-center
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
July 22 2016 18:07 GMT
#9956
Well.. I'll leave it here anyway, not much to do anyway but hoping that they'll get these fuckers alive. And that the deathtoll is as low as possible.
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-24 07:33:47
July 24 2016 07:30 GMT
#9957
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/692565/European-Union-Brussels-fine-Greece-state-aid-Hellenic-Shipyards
BRUSSELS bureaucrats are set to fine impoverished Greece a million euros every month in revenge for its Government stepping in to save ship builders’ jobs.

Out of touch eurocrats are seeking a court order for a massive financial crackdown on the struggling country, which has been driven into third world poverty by EU policies.
They want to impose a six million euro upfront penalty on Greece’s cash-strapped government, to be followed by a daily levy of 34,974 euros.

The row has erupted because Greek ministers used taxpayers money to save the Hellenic Shipyards company in 2008, guaranteeing the jobs of more than a thousand workers.
The shipyard was one of the country’s biggest and the government provided a temporary rescue package, before selling it on to a German company, in a case echoing Britain’s bid to save the Port Talbot steelworks.

But, despite Greece’s dire economic situation, bureaucrats at the EU Commission decided to take the elected Greek government to court, arguing that the state aid was illegal under Brussels law.
Following a series of cases before the European Court of Justice the Commission is now hammering home the judgements and demanding a massive financial penalty.
Under the terms they are seeking Greece will be required to pay 34,974 euros to Brussels every day until it has recouped all of the 250 million euros it used to bail out Hellenic Shipyards.

The Commission said in a statement: “More than seven years after its adoption, Greece still has not implemented the Commission decision of June 2008, ordering the recovery of over 250 million euros of unlawful state aid to Hellenic Shipyards.”
good thing there are no fines for saving the banks.
could be political and it probably is; Greece must've done something recently to piss them off.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 24 2016 18:43 GMT
#9958
A 21-year-old man has killed a woman with a machete and injured two other people before being arrested in the southern German city of Reutlingen.

The man, a Syrian asylum seeker, had been involved in previous incidents causing injuries to other people, a police spokesman said. The motive was not clear but there was no indication that the incident was a terrorist attack.

The assailant was apparently acting alone and “there is no danger to anyone else at this time”, the spokesman said.

Witnesses said the man was having an argument with the woman before he attacked her at about 4.30pm on Sunday.

The spokesman had no immediate information about when the man arrived in Germany, or when the previous incidents took place.

It was the third act of violence against civilians in Germany in 10 days.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-24 18:48:23
July 24 2016 18:46 GMT
#9959
On July 25 2016 03:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
A 21-year-old man has killed a woman with a machete and injured two other people before being arrested in the southern German city of Reutlingen.

The man, a Syrian asylum seeker, had been involved in previous incidents causing injuries to other people, a police spokesman said. The motive was not clear but there was no indication that the incident was a terrorist attack.

The assailant was apparently acting alone and “there is no danger to anyone else at this time”, the spokesman said.

Witnesses said the man was having an argument with the woman before he attacked her at about 4.30pm on Sunday.

The spokesman had no immediate information about when the man arrived in Germany, or when the previous incidents took place.

It was the third act of violence against civilians in Germany in 10 days.


Source


Third act of violence, second refugee running rampage - and yet again, known for similar incidents to the police, still roaming free and happy. I'd like to have people explain to me again (happened before) why exactly we shouldn't send people like him back to where they came from, should be interesting.

He also was stopped by a bystander who run him over with his car on purpose.
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9325 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-24 19:07:44
July 24 2016 19:01 GMT
#9960
Because it's illegal according to ECHR, refugee convention or some other important document. European Court of Human Rights said so.
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