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And who the hell has sex with 1000 different people? Is that really how you look at people who have sex? Most people only have one partner at a time. Like I said, you've never had sex, and thus don't understand it.
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On December 04 2006 16:27 5HITCOMBO wrote:
You just made YoUr_KiLLeR leave the game by hiding pylons for 4 pages.
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infinity21
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On December 04 2006 16:28 5HITCOMBO wrote:
LOL DUDE DO YOU KNOW WHAT ANAL SEX IS? USUALLY PEOPLE HAVE VAGINAL SEX, IDIOT.
Sorry then, I never had sex before. I'll correct that. You still haven't answered my point.
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I'm sorry, I'm confused. What exactly is your point? I thought I had been addressing that for 5 pages now.
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How the fuck do you expect to argue about sex when you don't know the difference between oral, anal, and vaginal sex anyway?
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infinity21
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On December 04 2006 16:28 5HITCOMBO wrote:
And who the hell has sex with 1000 different people? Is that really how you look at people who have sex? Most people only have one partner at a time. Like I said, you've never had sex, and thus don't understand it.
It's a frigging number. Get over it. Will you be happier if I said 10?
Like I said, you don't need the experience to understand something.
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On December 04 2006 16:26 infinity21 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2006 16:23 5HITCOMBO wrote:
IF SOMEONE IS NOT MARRIED AND THEY HAVE SEX 1000 TIMES, THEY STILL WON'T GET AN STD IF THEIR PARTNER DOES NOT HAVE AN STD EITHER
EVEN IF THEY DO, A CONDOM PREVENTS THE SPREAD OF SAID STD
ARE YOU TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THIS? No, but having sex 1000 times with 1000 different partners increases the chances of you getting infected by 100000%. As I said, condoms don't prevent the spread of STDs in oral sex, just vaginal sex. And I doubt people would only have vaginal sex. My assumption is you also usually kiss during sexual intercourse. Correct me if I'm wrong.
k, my final word on this, srsly. PREMARITAL SEX DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN YOURE DOING IT WITH 1000 DIFFERENT PEOPLE. WHAT IF YOU HAVE 1 PARTNER THROUGHOUT HIGHSCHOOL AND YOURE BOTH SAFE?????? WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT PREMARITAL SEX, BUT STUPID RECKLESS WHORE SEX. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
gg, alt+q+q.
EDIT CUZ I DIDNT REALLY QUIT: BTW I'VE NEVER HAD SEX EITHER, IM JUST NOT IGNORANT LIKE INFINITY.
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You gave some statistic about how it increases your risk of an STD by 100000% or something fucking retarded like that, though. That's why I was pointing out how fucking stupid your number was.
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IMO I think it's a good idea, kids will be kids and if they really want to do the hibidibidity they're going to do it. So might as well try to provide it with safe means of doing it.
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Thanks, bug, you really helped our argument there  .
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infinity21
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On December 04 2006 16:30 5HITCOMBO wrote:
I'm sorry, I'm confused. What exactly is your point? I thought I had been addressing that for 5 pages now.
For the third time now, (or w/e I lost count) schools handing out condoms to students gives off a negative image, because that basically implies that the school supports sex at the age of 14-18. That's pushing the boundaries of pedophilia. So I disagree with schools handing out condoms to teenagers.
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On December 04 2006 14:55 5HITCOMBO wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2006 14:17 infinity21 wrote:On December 04 2006 13:47 MTF wrote:On December 04 2006 13:03 infinity21 wrote:
OverTheUnder, I think you're giving high school kids too much credit here... You're assuming that teenage kids who are about to have sex will actually care about STDs. They've already been educated on what happens when they have sex. Girls get pregnant. I think we all learned that in high school, or elementary school for that matter. Honestly, it's their choice to have sex and get HIV, AIDS, STDs, and get pregnant. Getting free condoms might reduce the risk of infection but will encourage premarital sex (in high school) as I mentioned in my post above.
Remember, high school kids that have premarital sex obviously didn't learn anything in high school (with all the education on how it's so bad, risks of getting STDs, etc). They still have sex regardless. So it's a pretty risky assumption when you say they'll learn to control their sexual desires. While I'm not exactly supportive of going around and screwing whoever, whenever (I've only had one sexual partner all of my life, whom I'm engaged to), I do not like your approach to "preventing disease". Preaching abstinence instead of birth control/safe sex methods is counter-productive. Yes, it gives some moral backing, but ultimately it is up to them what they want to do, not society. Just because they're teens doesn't mean they don't deserve the right to have protection. This is all like saying you tell younger kids never to cross the street, whether they look both ways or not, because they could get hit. You shouldn't inhibit them like that, but rather let them learn and hold their hand, give them that extra safety, when they do cross. But school does everything necessary for teenagers. By the way, I'm a teenager myself, being in Grade 12. But I don't think it should be done in a way that promotes premarital sex. They (i.e. the school) teach us about the consequences of having premarital sex, such as AIDS, STDs, etc. They teach us what happens to your 16 year old girlfriend if you have unprotected sex. They teach us everything we need to make rational decisions. It's these stupid idiots that decide to have unprotected sex at the age of 16, when you're most likely not ready to be a parent, emotionally and financially. If they want condoms, they can go buy them. Seriously, just go buy condoms. It can't exactly be that difficult. I never said people should never have premarital sex. It's society, not me, that says that. To counter your point, I'd like to say that, nobody would actually hold a teenagers' hands when crossing the street. That was done when they were innocent children, incapable of making rational decisions for themselves. What they do to teenagers is give them more freedom. That is, the parents tell their teenage son that crossing the street without looking is dangerous because you can be hit by a car. I'm against the view that teenagers should be overprotected like children. We're at a point where we can make some important decisions for ourselves. The point I'm trying to make is, the school tells us of every single consequence to having unprotected, premarital sex. They say: "these are the consequences. Do it at your own risk." I honestly think they've done quite enough for us to make an educated decision. Abstinence only sex education DOES NOT WORK. Tax money spent on condoms > Tax money spent on welfare for 19 year old mothers. Also, you're still in high school, and thus have no idea how life is outside of high school. You don't know enough about this issue to give an opinion, and it's obvious in your posts. And actually, only certain societies say that it's not right to have sex before marriage. There are actually cultures in the world where free sex is practiced, and most of the younger generation doesn't hold the view that premarital sex is a bad thing. Go to college, you'll see what I mean.
5HITCOMBO what the hell are you talking about. You make good points about almost everything you said but you lost my vote when u said that infinity21 is still in highschool and theirfore doesnt know what hes talking about. Im also 17 and a senior in highschool. I dont know about you japanese people, but here we know pretty well what "real life is." I have a full time job, I pay taxes, I do what has to be done. What you were saying basicly is that high school students should have no say whatsoever as to whether or not condoms are distributed at their schools.
Riiiiiight thats it lets make the choices for them they dont know better. I liked your point of view until you started to be condesending torwards infinity21 simply because he is 17 and a virgin and in highschool. I consider myself more aware of what is going on in my country than most people who have the right to vote. Plus look at the topic one more time. It has NOTHING
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On December 04 2006 16:32 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
IMO I think it's a good idea, kids will be kids and if they really want to do the hibidibidity they're going to do it. So might as well try to provide it with safe means of doing it.
Yes, you definitely get it.
Ok, I give up. It seems we've fought hard enough too battle off everyone except infinity21, who obviously does not really know what he is talking about, and uses his opinions as "arguments"...
arguing with that kind of people is useless and will get us nowhere..
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infinity21
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On December 04 2006 16:31 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2006 16:26 infinity21 wrote:On December 04 2006 16:23 5HITCOMBO wrote:
IF SOMEONE IS NOT MARRIED AND THEY HAVE SEX 1000 TIMES, THEY STILL WON'T GET AN STD IF THEIR PARTNER DOES NOT HAVE AN STD EITHER
EVEN IF THEY DO, A CONDOM PREVENTS THE SPREAD OF SAID STD
ARE YOU TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THIS? No, but having sex 1000 times with 1000 different partners increases the chances of you getting infected by 100000%. As I said, condoms don't prevent the spread of STDs in oral sex, just vaginal sex. And I doubt people would only have vaginal sex. My assumption is you also usually kiss during sexual intercourse. Correct me if I'm wrong. k, my final word on this, srsly. PREMARITAL SEX DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN YOURE DOING IT WITH 1000 DIFFERENT PEOPLE. WHAT IF YOU HAVE 1 PARTNER THROUGHOUT HIGHSCHOOL AND YOURE BOTH SAFE?????? WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT PREMARITAL SEX, BUT STUPID RECKLESS WHORE SEX. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. gg, alt+q+q. EDIT CUZ I DIDNT REALLY QUIT: BTW I'VE NEVER HAD SEX EITHER, IM JUST NOT IGNORANT LIKE INFINITY.
I said 1000 times because you said 1000 times initially. I'm not ignorant, you're ignoring my point.
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On December 04 2006 16:35 _PulSe_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2006 14:55 5HITCOMBO wrote:On December 04 2006 14:17 infinity21 wrote:On December 04 2006 13:47 MTF wrote:On December 04 2006 13:03 infinity21 wrote:
OverTheUnder, I think you're giving high school kids too much credit here... You're assuming that teenage kids who are about to have sex will actually care about STDs. They've already been educated on what happens when they have sex. Girls get pregnant. I think we all learned that in high school, or elementary school for that matter. Honestly, it's their choice to have sex and get HIV, AIDS, STDs, and get pregnant. Getting free condoms might reduce the risk of infection but will encourage premarital sex (in high school) as I mentioned in my post above.
Remember, high school kids that have premarital sex obviously didn't learn anything in high school (with all the education on how it's so bad, risks of getting STDs, etc). They still have sex regardless. So it's a pretty risky assumption when you say they'll learn to control their sexual desires. While I'm not exactly supportive of going around and screwing whoever, whenever (I've only had one sexual partner all of my life, whom I'm engaged to), I do not like your approach to "preventing disease". Preaching abstinence instead of birth control/safe sex methods is counter-productive. Yes, it gives some moral backing, but ultimately it is up to them what they want to do, not society. Just because they're teens doesn't mean they don't deserve the right to have protection. This is all like saying you tell younger kids never to cross the street, whether they look both ways or not, because they could get hit. You shouldn't inhibit them like that, but rather let them learn and hold their hand, give them that extra safety, when they do cross. But school does everything necessary for teenagers. By the way, I'm a teenager myself, being in Grade 12. But I don't think it should be done in a way that promotes premarital sex. They (i.e. the school) teach us about the consequences of having premarital sex, such as AIDS, STDs, etc. They teach us what happens to your 16 year old girlfriend if you have unprotected sex. They teach us everything we need to make rational decisions. It's these stupid idiots that decide to have unprotected sex at the age of 16, when you're most likely not ready to be a parent, emotionally and financially. If they want condoms, they can go buy them. Seriously, just go buy condoms. It can't exactly be that difficult. I never said people should never have premarital sex. It's society, not me, that says that. To counter your point, I'd like to say that, nobody would actually hold a teenagers' hands when crossing the street. That was done when they were innocent children, incapable of making rational decisions for themselves. What they do to teenagers is give them more freedom. That is, the parents tell their teenage son that crossing the street without looking is dangerous because you can be hit by a car. I'm against the view that teenagers should be overprotected like children. We're at a point where we can make some important decisions for ourselves. The point I'm trying to make is, the school tells us of every single consequence to having unprotected, premarital sex. They say: "these are the consequences. Do it at your own risk." I honestly think they've done quite enough for us to make an educated decision. Abstinence only sex education DOES NOT WORK. Tax money spent on condoms > Tax money spent on welfare for 19 year old mothers. Also, you're still in high school, and thus have no idea how life is outside of high school. You don't know enough about this issue to give an opinion, and it's obvious in your posts. And actually, only certain societies say that it's not right to have sex before marriage. There are actually cultures in the world where free sex is practiced, and most of the younger generation doesn't hold the view that premarital sex is a bad thing. Go to college, you'll see what I mean. 5HITCOMBO what the hell are you talking about. You make good points about almost everything you said but you lost my vote when u said that infinity21 is still in highschool and theirfore doesnt know what hes talking about. Im also 17 and a senior in highschool. I dont know about you japanese people, but here we know pretty well what "real life is." I have a full time job, I pay taxes, I do what has to be done. What you were saying basicly is that high school students should have no say whatsoever as to whether or not condoms are distributed at their schools. Riiiiiight thats it lets make the choices for them they dont know better. I liked your point of view until you started to be condesending torwards infinity21 simply because he is 17 and a virgin and in highschool. I consider myself more aware of what is going on in my country than most people who have the right to vote. Plus look at the topic one more time. It has NOTHING
He made that argument, not me. I was just using it against him. Have you been reading my posts? My stance all along has been that high school students should have condoms available to them. I'm not interested in whether or not they want a say in it. If they're against it, does that make it a bad thing?
Also, thank you for generalizing all Japanese people, you fucking idiot.
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On December 04 2006 16:35 infinity21 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2006 16:31 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:On December 04 2006 16:26 infinity21 wrote:On December 04 2006 16:23 5HITCOMBO wrote:
IF SOMEONE IS NOT MARRIED AND THEY HAVE SEX 1000 TIMES, THEY STILL WON'T GET AN STD IF THEIR PARTNER DOES NOT HAVE AN STD EITHER
EVEN IF THEY DO, A CONDOM PREVENTS THE SPREAD OF SAID STD
ARE YOU TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THIS? No, but having sex 1000 times with 1000 different partners increases the chances of you getting infected by 100000%. As I said, condoms don't prevent the spread of STDs in oral sex, just vaginal sex. And I doubt people would only have vaginal sex. My assumption is you also usually kiss during sexual intercourse. Correct me if I'm wrong. k, my final word on this, srsly. PREMARITAL SEX DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN YOURE DOING IT WITH 1000 DIFFERENT PEOPLE. WHAT IF YOU HAVE 1 PARTNER THROUGHOUT HIGHSCHOOL AND YOURE BOTH SAFE?????? WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT PREMARITAL SEX, BUT STUPID RECKLESS WHORE SEX. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. gg, alt+q+q. EDIT CUZ I DIDNT REALLY QUIT: BTW I'VE NEVER HAD SEX EITHER, IM JUST NOT IGNORANT LIKE INFINITY. I said 1000 times because you said 1000 times initially. I'm not ignorant, you're ignoring my point.
You changed the number of partners from 1 to 1000.
And you still haven't told me what your point is. I swear we've been addressing it for the past 5 pages.
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On December 04 2006 16:35 infinity21 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2006 16:31 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:On December 04 2006 16:26 infinity21 wrote:On December 04 2006 16:23 5HITCOMBO wrote:
IF SOMEONE IS NOT MARRIED AND THEY HAVE SEX 1000 TIMES, THEY STILL WON'T GET AN STD IF THEIR PARTNER DOES NOT HAVE AN STD EITHER
EVEN IF THEY DO, A CONDOM PREVENTS THE SPREAD OF SAID STD
ARE YOU TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THIS? No, but having sex 1000 times with 1000 different partners increases the chances of you getting infected by 100000%. As I said, condoms don't prevent the spread of STDs in oral sex, just vaginal sex. And I doubt people would only have vaginal sex. My assumption is you also usually kiss during sexual intercourse. Correct me if I'm wrong. k, my final word on this, srsly. PREMARITAL SEX DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN YOURE DOING IT WITH 1000 DIFFERENT PEOPLE. WHAT IF YOU HAVE 1 PARTNER THROUGHOUT HIGHSCHOOL AND YOURE BOTH SAFE?????? WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT PREMARITAL SEX, BUT STUPID RECKLESS WHORE SEX. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. gg, alt+q+q. EDIT CUZ I DIDNT REALLY QUIT: BTW I'VE NEVER HAD SEX EITHER, IM JUST NOT IGNORANT LIKE INFINITY. I said 1000 times because you said 1000 times initially. I'm not ignorant, you're ignoring my point.
1000 times and 1000 different people are not the same thing. lol????????????????????/
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On December 04 2006 16:33 infinity21 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2006 16:30 5HITCOMBO wrote:
I'm sorry, I'm confused. What exactly is your point? I thought I had been addressing that for 5 pages now. For the third time now, (or w/e I lost count) schools handing out condoms to students gives off a negative image, because that basically implies that the school supports sex at the age of 14-18. That's pushing the boundaries of pedophilia. So I disagree with schools handing out condoms to teenagers.
Easy protection against diseases/pregnancy, for both those responsible people and those who aren't ready, but are going to do it anyway. >>> Holding "high moral ground" according to certain groups of people.
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