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Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
October 28 2006 07:44 GMT
#161
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Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
October 28 2006 10:55 GMT
#162
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Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
October 28 2006 10:56 GMT
#163
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FeeLdAfuRy
Profile Joined October 2002
Australia290 Posts
October 28 2006 11:32 GMT
#164
That really is disgraceful that some people are so sexually paranoid they are willing to go to those kinds of lengths. A human beings life has been ruined by ridiculous vigilantism.
NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
October 28 2006 11:59 GMT
#165
Chibi, can you link to the full transcript of that chat discussion? Im not even sure what youre trying to prove here..
I went to the chippy last night and only orderd chips because I knew I could get fish from her bushy plate.
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
October 28 2006 12:48 GMT
#166
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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
October 28 2006 13:09 GMT
#167
On October 28 2006 16:33 ))(())(( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2006 16:10 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
i wonder what happens when some 17 year old tries to chat them up
'sorry im looking for 50 year old man to molest me...dont suppose you know any?'


its still illegal. statutory. no different then a 16 year old girl tryin to get with a 21 year old guy. even if she wants it, she legally can not consent to it.


Legal age in the US is atleast 16, lower in some states.
wtf was that signature
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
October 28 2006 14:40 GMT
#168
On October 27 2006 18:00 gameguard wrote:
First of all, your first statement is fucking retarded im not even gona comment on it.

Secondly, stop all this ideological bullshit. You would let 10 child molesters go just to save one peodphile who had no intension of actually going through with the shit he was spewing out?

Homsexuals can agree as adults to have sex. Victims of pedophilia do not have the sufficient maturity level to even grasp what they are getting into.


People like you deserve to be the one innocent person incarcerated just so you realize how fucking ignorant you are. If you were the 1 innocent person, I wouldn't let ANY convicted child molestors free to let you out. You could just rot in jail for the rest of your life for being so stupid. For the average person though, yes, I would set more than ten free if it meant giving back the life to someone who was wrongfully convicted for something like this.
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
October 28 2006 14:41 GMT
#169
On October 28 2006 16:33 ))(())(( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2006 16:10 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
i wonder what happens when some 17 year old tries to chat them up
'sorry im looking for 50 year old man to molest me...dont suppose you know any?'


its still illegal. statutory. no different then a 16 year old girl tryin to get with a 21 year old guy. even if she wants it, she legally can not consent to it.


Perhaps if you are COMPLETELY IGNORANT OF THE LAW, you shouldn't talk about the law, mmmk?
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
October 28 2006 14:43 GMT
#170
On October 28 2006 22:09 Servolisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2006 16:33 ))(())(( wrote:
On October 28 2006 16:10 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
i wonder what happens when some 17 year old tries to chat them up
'sorry im looking for 50 year old man to molest me...dont suppose you know any?'


its still illegal. statutory. no different then a 16 year old girl tryin to get with a 21 year old guy. even if she wants it, she legally can not consent to it.


Legal age in the US is atleast 16, HIGHER in some states.


Fixed. I believe South Carolina was the last to raise it to 16 (from 14 or 15), and now every state is 16, 17, or 18.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
October 28 2006 15:03 GMT
#171
pr0n, you realize the people that pervertedjustice "catch" aren't getting convicted/sentenced to actual child molestation, but rather intent to engage or entice sex with a minor or in extreme cases attempted sex with a minor.

looking at those logs and the fact that the convictions are carried out in conjunction with police who catch the criminal as they are in or leaving the "fake" minor's house, i'd say its pretty clear that these people at least had the intent. these people have chatted in chatrooms specifically with minors, understood that they are minors (look at the chat logs), set up meeting places, and actually showed up at those places. how can you say that that is not intent (which is what these people are getting convicted of, thats why some of them are getting fines and < 1 year jailtime rather than the full molestation penalties). a lot of them get convicted with child porn charges too.

i don't see how its any more likely that they "wrongfully convict" an innocent as any other criminal investigation.
On October 28 2006 20:32 FeeLdAfuRy wrote:
That really is disgraceful that some people are so sexually paranoid they are willing to go to those kinds of lengths. A human beings life has been ruined by ridiculous vigilantism.

please read the fucking website and the details about the convictions...

for example, just reading the last couple convictions, a guy showed up with condoms, lube and a meth pipe after "mentioning sex within minutes of initiating the chat" and "gradually getting more aggressive, discussing oral sex, masturbation, and things he would like to do to twelve-year-old "Emily."" many of these guys get caught when they show up to the house, after chatting about sex and initiating the meet, clearly knowing that oftentimes with sex toys or drugs, some initiate a meet as quickly as a day.

it also seems a great deal of the "accused" plead guilty (rarely taking it to trial) and were repeat offenders, some of them with professions like special education teacher or whatever.
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Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
October 28 2006 15:04 GMT
#172
I dunno... I feel tempted to side with Chibi on this one. However, I think it's a case-by-case basis, in the chat log on the first page, it seems like the person posing as a minor was, to some degree, initiating and egging on the pedophile. In a case like this,http://perverted-justice.com/?archive=fleet_captain_jaime_wolfe, the pedo is clearly the one making the advance. The person posing as the 13 year old girl isn't doing anything, initially, to encourage this creep to make his advances, it's 100% his fault. I wouldn't argue entrapment on this one at all.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-28 15:17:35
October 28 2006 15:07 GMT
#173
17-18 is ridiculous. I remember Hawaii was 12, from what I heard 4 years ago. I think there were a handful of others. And I say it is ridiculous not because I am in favour of old guys having sex with them, I think they should be free to have sex with each other, rather than convicting a bf of a consensual experience of statutory rape. These things always pissed me off in high school. Didn't come up much, though :p

I remember in HS, I despised those who had sex with older people. Like the ones who got with college students. Besides thinking it was very uncool, I thought it'd be nice if no one older touched my generation, my generation would have no STDs, and I'd never have to worry about herpes (since I'm only interested in ~my generation).
wtf was that signature
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
October 28 2006 15:08 GMT
#174
after reading the details about the convictions, i do not see how a middle aged man could possibly chat inappropriately about sex for many days with a minor, initiate a meeting with a minor, and show up at their house and still be innocent.

PJ claims that their agents just go into a chatroom and wait for the predators to message them.
We have an official "rules of engagement" that we instruct to a contributor when they're brought aboard to help out with the site. One of those rules is that unless asked to in the chat, always let the male PM you. That way they can't cry that the "kid" messaged them in IM first, they have to take the first step. Typically, and I stress typically one of our operatives will be chatting on the main screen, or announce their presence (A/S/L) in the rooms . . . sadly, and typically, they almost always receive interest. Often, just entering a chat room is enough to get 3-10 instant messages at once without having to say anything.

We are philosophically against anyone or any organization that contacts people first as underage personas. There is no reason to do that when online predators are so numerous and motivated to contact what they think is a 10-15 year old male or female first. We want threats and we are happy to wait as long as it takes to find them.


if you read the FAQ on the site it gives a lot more details about how they go about it with all the phone, chat etc evidence.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
October 28 2006 16:47 GMT
#175
On October 28 2006 23:40 pr0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2006 18:00 gameguard wrote:
First of all, your first statement is fucking retarded im not even gona comment on it.

Secondly, stop all this ideological bullshit. You would let 10 child molesters go just to save one peodphile who had no intension of actually going through with the shit he was spewing out?

Homsexuals can agree as adults to have sex. Victims of pedophilia do not have the sufficient maturity level to even grasp what they are getting into.



People like you deserve to be the one innocent person incarcerated just so you realize how fucking ignorant you are. If you were the 1 innocent person, I wouldn't let ANY convicted child molestors free to let you out. You could just rot in jail for the rest of your life for being so stupid. For the average person though, yes, I would set more than ten free if it meant giving back the life to someone who was wrongfully convicted for something like this.



Yea, too bad I dont visit chat rooms, let alone a kiddie room. Get it through your head that they go to those chat rooms for a reason. Do you think they are just chillin in those rooms for shits and giggles? People they convict show the intent of engaging in sex with kids. If some dumbass
really does't want to have sex but still has those conversations and wants to meet up, I wouldnt see them as innocent. They clearly have some screws loose and is generally a waste to society. I would convict one of those any day to put away 10 pedos who intend to sex kids.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-28 16:00:02
October 28 2006 16:55 GMT
#176
more accurately, they are in regional chatrooms and they initiate sexual conversation with PJ agents after the agents have clearly stated their minor age and sex. imo this is even more damning than doing it in kiddie rooms, because the chatrooms in which they stalk kids are general ones and thus they cannot do the whole "oh i was just roleplaying, i knew it wasnt real" thing. plus, even if they do say that, for convictions PJ follows through with phone and other sorts of verification done in conjunction with police, like agreeing to and busting the pedo when they show up for a meet.

again, a lot of times they are busting these guys for child porn and intent, which are legit charges and confirmed by voice and other methods. they ARE NOT charging or convicting random people who a) do not initiate and b) simply just talk about it, because i can just go into a chat room and set up someone i hate by giving all their info that way. it's basically impossible to be mischarged, they'd have to give their location and phone #, have their ip and phone #s traced and confirmed, talk to the PJ agent on the phone AND say all the sexual stuff. by that time they're good to be convicted on intent anyway. and of course if they have child porn or get caught at a meet its 100% easy guilty.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
uhjoo
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)1740 Posts
October 28 2006 16:32 GMT
#177
some of the people in this thread are fucking idiots

being convinced by chibi or baal in this thread makes me think automatically that you're a slobbering idiot

shit, i'm tempted to volunteer for this site and entrap, entice, seduce, and induce the fuck out of any morally degenerate individual who would actually respond to who they think is a 13 year old girl
i want bubbles the warrior monkey back
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 28 2006 23:39 GMT
#178
Err, who says bois? Are all pedos attracted to flava flav?
j0ehoe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States2705 Posts
October 28 2006 23:40 GMT
#179
On October 28 2006 23:41 pr0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2006 16:33 ))(())(( wrote:
On October 28 2006 16:10 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
i wonder what happens when some 17 year old tries to chat them up
'sorry im looking for 50 year old man to molest me...dont suppose you know any?'


its still illegal. statutory. no different then a 16 year old girl tryin to get with a 21 year old guy. even if she wants it, she legally can not consent to it.


Perhaps if you are COMPLETELY IGNORANT OF THE LAW, you shouldn't talk about the law, mmmk?


ok, if youre 21, go fuck a 16 year old, go right to the cops and tell me you wont get in trouble ok dipshit? it varies per state. if you dont find a 16 year old hittin up a 21 year old a slight problem, its probably because youre one of the fat fuck losers that would stoop that low to get pussy like that because youre unable to attract women close to your age.
Only communists disconnect.
j0ehoe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States2705 Posts
October 28 2006 23:46 GMT
#180
On October 28 2006 19:55 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
no replies? let me just quote this in bold for you

SISSIBOISISSI13 [8:01 P.M.]: u here
Auto response from Crazy4theNATS [8:01 P.M.]: Crazy4theNATS is online but may be away from AOL right now.
Crazy4theNATS [8:01 P.M.]: yes
Crazy4theNATS [8:02 P.M.]: hello
SISSIBOISISSI13 [8:02 P.M.]: i miss u
SISSIBOISISSI13 [8:02 P.M.]: u are never here
Crazy4theNATS [8:03 P.M.]: I was here all evening..where were you?
Crazy4theNATS [8:03 P.M.]:
SISSIBOISISSI13 [8:04 P.M.]: i was crying lots
SISSIBOISISSI13 [8:04 P.M.]: so did not want to be on
Crazy4theNATS [8:04 P.M.]: I was out of town all last week though
Crazy4theNATS [8:04 P.M.]: Why cryin?
SISSIBOISISSI13 [8:06 P.M.]: just like i dream and like you and like how it would be but i no it won't so i get sad




there was no reply because it was fucking saturday. unlike you, tl.net isnt my first priority on the weekends.

youre selective pulling of quotes is hilarious. its worse then those morons who made loose change, taking quotes out of context to support their viewss. do you forget that these guys all went to a chat room for the purpose of locating a kid to do this to? what dont you get about that? what normal person goes to a fucking known chatroom for this shit to hang out? they clearly knew what they were doing. the 'age' of the 'kids' was stated before hand. what they are demonstrating is intent to commit the crime. no matter what poorly thought out logic you try to use to rationalize how this is wrong, the bottom line is these people were all arrested on intent alone and rightfully so. posting their info is not harrassing. they are considered a web media. as long as what they post is true, its legal.
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