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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 11 2013 17:41 GMT
#461
I find them pretty interesting actually, I would be very interested to read a history of how they panned out during the Cold War though; rather than what seems like is less about fervent nationalism and more a bit of petty infighting.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
November 11 2013 18:44 GMT
#462
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/sep/29/chess-karpov-kirsan-ilyumzhinov

I think that's an interesting article about some recent chess politics. Karpov would probably be well suited for the job, but instead there is this kind of crazy dictator that's been given the job because the Russian government needs to find ways to occupy his time so he can't do too much damage to actual politics.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 07:28:44
November 12 2013 07:03 GMT
#463
Im curious to know why magus carlsen didnt like working with kasparov, is there any info on what happened?
nvm another interview says differently
SPIEGEL: For a year now you have been working with Garry Kasparov, who is probably the best chess player of all time. What form does your cooperation take? Kasparov is the teacher, you the pupil?

Carlsen: No. In terms of our playing skills we are not that far apart. There are many things I am better at than he is. And vice versa. Kasparov can calculate more alternatives, whereas my intuition is better. I immediately know how to rate a situation and what plan is necessary. I am clearly superior to him in that respect.

SPIEGEL: How is he useful to you?

Carlsen: He still has loads of unused ideas for openings. And the fact that he has played against most of my opponents himself is invaluable. He senses what mood they are in, how they will open the game. I can’t do that.

SPIEGEL: How long do you want to work with him?

Carlsen: The cooperation has now entered its next natural stage. We reached our goal of becoming the number one considerably ahead of schedule.With that a major goal had been reached. We decided that in the future I should be responsible for all career decisions, without constant guidance from Garry, before and during events.

SPIEGEL: You split up?

Carlsen: No. We remain in contact and I have the opportunity to confer with Garry regularly. I will also attend training sessions with him. I want to stress: the last 12 months have been of immense value to me, and I continue to listen to Garry‘s advice.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 12 2013 08:18 GMT
#464
It seems that Kasparov has a pretty demanding personality.
Carlsen mentioned that he doesn't want to keep up with the constant stress aside from the board.

Carlsen on working with Kasparov
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
November 12 2013 08:47 GMT
#465
It seems as though he’s simply sharing his opinion with you, but in actual fact he’s dictating how you should act…

That's why I'm not sure whether I could support Kasparov running for fide president. He's always impulsive, with strong opinions and he constantly hops between various pet projects and activities. Karpov seemed like the more stable personality to me, I wonder if he's going to run again.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
November 12 2013 09:03 GMT
#466
Just jumping in this thread for the first time, watched the first two games and was pretty standard play. Even stayed up to watch the first game on stream (3 AM)! Rooting for Magnus as I think it would be a good exposure for chess to have such a young winner.
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
November 12 2013 09:29 GMT
#467
Vishy just arrived at the board. Carlsen still not in sight.

Some mindgames already...
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
November 12 2013 09:30 GMT
#468
Carlsen arrives just about 30 seconds away from a possible default loss
Did he do this before?
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 12 2013 09:34 GMT
#469
Carlsen already out of preparation on move 4?
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 09:36:50
November 12 2013 09:35 GMT
#470
1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 g6 3. c4 dxc4 4. Qa4+

Should be interesting; Vishy already toying with Magnus by playing the capture very quickly.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
November 12 2013 09:53 GMT
#471
Anand is shrewd. I think it might become difficult for Carlsen to continue to develop cleanly?
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 12 2013 09:58 GMT
#472
Very solid for both sides. Looks like we might finally have ourselves a game.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
November 12 2013 10:01 GMT
#473
On November 12 2013 18:58 Orome wrote:
Very solid for both sides. Looks like we might finally have ourselves a game.


yeah, carlsen can show his strengths now
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 13:37:57
November 12 2013 10:15 GMT
#474
Played so far:

1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 g6 3. c4 dxc4 4. Qa4+ Nc6 5. Bg2 Bg7 6. Nc3 e5 7. Qxc4 Nge7 8. O-O O-O 9. d3 h6 10. Bd2 Nd4 11. Nxd4 exd4 12. Ne4 c6 13. Bb4 Be6 14. Qc1 Bd5 15. a4 b6 16. Bxe7 Qxe7 17. a5 Rab8 18. Re1 Rfc8 19. axb6 axb6 20. Qf4 Rd8 21. h4 Kh7 22. Nd2 Be5 23. Qg4 h5 24. Qh3 Be6 25. Qh1 c5 26. Ne4 Kg7 27. Ng5 b5 28. e3 dxe3 29. Rxe3 Bd4 30. Re2 c4 31. Nxe6+ fxe6 32. Be4 cxd3 33. Rd2 Bd3 34. Rad1 Bxb2 35. Qf3 Bf6 36. Rxd3 Rxd3 37. Rxd3 Rd8 38. Rxd8 Bxd8 39. Bd3 Qd4 40. Bxb5 Qf6 41. Qb7+ Be7 42. Kg2 g5 43. hxg5 Qxg5 44. Bc4 h4 45. Qc7 hxg3 46. Qxg3 e5 47. Kf3 Qxg3+ 48. fxg3 Bc5 49. Ke4 Bd4 50. Kf5 Bf2 51. Kxe5 Bxg3+ 1/2 - 1/2

On November 12 2013 19:27 Arevall wrote:
Watching the official stream, discussing blitz. Hasn't both Anand and Carlsen won blitz WC?

Yes. Anand won in 2000, Carlsen in 2009.

On November 12 2013 19:32 WerderBremen wrote:
The players are allowed to leave the place and go to a private room.
Are they allowed to talk to their 'team' members during the game?

Nope. They are isolated from people and engines; only can have some drinks, snacks, use bathroom etc.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
November 12 2013 10:27 GMT
#475
Watching the official stream, discussing blitz. Hasn't both Anand and Carlsen won blitz WC?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 12 2013 10:30 GMT
#476
This is the kind of position Carlsen can make something of.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
November 12 2013 10:30 GMT
#477
white has a lot of pressure in this position but nothing concrete
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
WerderBremen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1070 Posts
November 12 2013 10:32 GMT
#478
The players are allowed to leave the place and go to a private room.
Are they allowed to talk to their 'team' members during the game?
"Thats the moment you send the kids outta the room - when you get contained by MarineKing." Tasteless
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 12 2013 10:33 GMT
#479
On November 12 2013 19:32 WerderBremen wrote:
The players are allowed to leave the place and go to a private room.
Are they allowed to talk to their 'team' members during the game?

no
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 10:46:15
November 12 2013 10:34 GMT
#480
Anand has won both rapid and blitz world championships, Carlsen has won a blitz world championship. Carlsen was set to win last year's rapid's wcc but lost the last two games.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
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