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On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs?
Homosexuality is all over the natural world, and plenty within primates.
But I wasn't saying it was natural, actually. I was mocking you. Saying something is "unnatural" has been used by bigots for millenia to justify everything from banning interracial marriage to apologizing for marital rape to prohibiting wearing different kinds of fabric. It's a nonsense phrase to say something is unnatural. Humans are from nature, and everything we create we create from nature. It's a fake delineation. What you really mean is "gay is icky."
I don't know why people want to simplify something as awesomely complex as human sexuality.
I am not that polite to people who butcher words like tolerance to hold on to bigotry.
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On August 08 2013 22:18 MikeMM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:13 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? Well there is this sweet list of animals that display homosexual behaviour. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behaviorThere are a bunch of medical jounrals about it too. At the end of the day, you can't say it doesn't exist in nature, because it does and is pretty common. Homicide pedophilia incest and other things like that exist in nature and so that?
You can't keep your argument straight. "It's not natural!" ----> "oh, it is! Well, look at these bad things that are natural too!"
Your 2nd point was not your first, you asked for evidence that homosexuality is natural and you were given it.
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On August 08 2013 22:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? What are your reasons to think homosexuality is not 'natural', exactly?
My reason is very simple.
There live about 7 bln people on earth right now.
All 7 bln people were born from hetero couples.
There is no single person who was born from gay couple.
So we have 7 bln evidences that hetero couple are normal and 0 evidences that gay couple are normal.
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The real problem with the next Olympics will be the US blackmailing everyone with the information they stole into giving them all the gold medals. They just put out petty stories like this so people can go around in circles for as long as possible to put off talking about real problems and major breaches of international law... hence why you see most Americans jump onto the 'Russia is automatically evil' train, just goes to show you how horrible the cold war really was.
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On August 08 2013 22:18 MikeMM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:13 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? Well there is this sweet list of animals that display homosexual behaviour. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behaviorThere are a bunch of medical jounrals about it too. At the end of the day, you can't say it doesn't exist in nature, because it does and is pretty common. Homicide pedophilia incest and other things like that exist in nature and so that? User was temp banned for this post.
Well that resolved itself exactly as I thought it would. The argument is both flawed and sad.
On August 08 2013 22:23 MikeMM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:14 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? What are your reasons to think homosexuality is not 'natural', exactly? My reason is very simple. There live about 7 bln people on earth right now. All 7 bln people were born from hetero couples. There is no single person who was born from gay couple. So we have 7 bln evidences that hetero couple are normal and 0 evidences that gay couple are normal.
Well, ignorance is bliss they say.
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On August 08 2013 22:25 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:18 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 22:13 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? Well there is this sweet list of animals that display homosexual behaviour. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behaviorThere are a bunch of medical jounrals about it too. At the end of the day, you can't say it doesn't exist in nature, because it does and is pretty common. Homicide pedophilia incest and other things like that exist in nature and so that? User was temp banned for this post. Well that resolved itself exactly as I thought it would. The argument is both flawed and sad. Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:23 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 22:14 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? What are your reasons to think homosexuality is not 'natural', exactly? My reason is very simple. There live about 7 bln people on earth right now. All 7 bln people were born from hetero couples. There is no single person who was born from gay couple. So we have 7 bln evidences that hetero couple are normal and 0 evidences that gay couple are normal. Well, ignorance is bliss they say.
The argument isn't even consistent.
1) homosexuality is unnatural! show me how it's natural!
---> is shown it's natural
2) but all these stupid things are natural too!
---> right
3) but homosexuality is unnatural!
---> what?
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On August 08 2013 22:23 MikeMM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:14 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? What are your reasons to think homosexuality is not 'natural', exactly? My reason is very simple. There live about 7 bln people on earth right now. All 7 bln people were born from hetero couples. There is no single person who was born from gay couple. So we have 7 bln evidences that hetero couple are normal and 0 evidences that gay couple are normal.
I have been searching long and far for the dumbest argument. My long search is over.
What will I do now? Will I find more meaning to my life? My search may be over, but my life has only just begun.
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On August 08 2013 22:23 MikeMM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:14 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? What are your reasons to think homosexuality is not 'natural', exactly? My reason is very simple. There live about 7 bln people on earth right now. All 7 bln people were born from hetero couples. There is no single person who was born from gay couple. So we have 7 bln evidences that hetero couple are normal and 0 evidences that gay couple are normal.
I think that there are at least a few hundred people born via artificial insemination
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On August 08 2013 22:23 MikeMM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:14 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? What are your reasons to think homosexuality is not 'natural', exactly? My reason is very simple. There live about 7 bln people on earth right now. All 7 bln people were born from hetero couples. There is no single person who was born from gay couple. So we have 7 bln evidences that hetero couple are normal and 0 evidences that gay couple are normal.
What if I told you.... that gay people can reproduce, too?
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On August 08 2013 22:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:25 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 22:18 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 22:13 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? Well there is this sweet list of animals that display homosexual behaviour. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behaviorThere are a bunch of medical jounrals about it too. At the end of the day, you can't say it doesn't exist in nature, because it does and is pretty common. Homicide pedophilia incest and other things like that exist in nature and so that? User was temp banned for this post. Well that resolved itself exactly as I thought it would. The argument is both flawed and sad. On August 08 2013 22:23 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 22:14 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? What are your reasons to think homosexuality is not 'natural', exactly? My reason is very simple. There live about 7 bln people on earth right now. All 7 bln people were born from hetero couples. There is no single person who was born from gay couple. So we have 7 bln evidences that hetero couple are normal and 0 evidences that gay couple are normal. Well, ignorance is bliss they say. The argument isn't even consistent. 1) homosexuality is unnatural! show me how it's natural! ---> is shown it's natural 2) but all these stupid things are natural too! ---> right 3) but homosexuality is unnatural! ---> what?
Come on, do you expect rational arguments from people like this. Its all about hate, hate, hate, deny, deny, deny. And then when that fails "Its the liberal media and their gay-activist propaganda!!!!"
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Maybe I just like consistent bigotry and hatred, Plansix. Don't hate me <3
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It is more moronic for someone to resort to ad hom in a discussion like this. The issue is not that you cannot complain about oppression in other countries. The issue is, especially among Americans who claim themselves to be the world`s police and moral center, they are fast to complain about "problems" in other countries, yet do not even bother to raise a finger towards problems commited by their own culture and government, often far greater, such as those I mentioned: military intervention, breach of privacy, terrorism, etc. Yeah you can complain about gender equality in Russia, but where is the rage in all the human rights violation commited by America? Where is the rage? We have a word for this - HYPROCRISY.
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On August 08 2013 22:29 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:27 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 22:25 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 22:18 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 22:13 Plansix wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? Well there is this sweet list of animals that display homosexual behaviour. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behaviorThere are a bunch of medical jounrals about it too. At the end of the day, you can't say it doesn't exist in nature, because it does and is pretty common. Homicide pedophilia incest and other things like that exist in nature and so that? User was temp banned for this post. Well that resolved itself exactly as I thought it would. The argument is both flawed and sad. On August 08 2013 22:23 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 22:14 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? What are your reasons to think homosexuality is not 'natural', exactly? My reason is very simple. There live about 7 bln people on earth right now. All 7 bln people were born from hetero couples. There is no single person who was born from gay couple. So we have 7 bln evidences that hetero couple are normal and 0 evidences that gay couple are normal. Well, ignorance is bliss they say. The argument isn't even consistent. 1) homosexuality is unnatural! show me how it's natural! ---> is shown it's natural 2) but all these stupid things are natural too! ---> right 3) but homosexuality is unnatural! ---> what? Come on, do you expect rational arguments from people like this. Its all about hate, hate, hate, deny, deny, deny. And then when that fails "Its the liberal media and their gay-activist propaganda!!!!"
Nah, nowadays it's "You're being intolerant of my bigotry! Why can't I impose my beliefs on others? My rights! My riiiiights!!"
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On August 08 2013 22:32 Christ the Redeemer wrote:It is more moronic for someone to resort to ad hom in a discussion like this. The issue is not that you cannot complain about oppression in other countries. The issue is, especially among Americans who claim themselves to be the world`s police and moral center, they are fast to complain about "problems" in other countries, yet do not even bother to raise a finger towards problems commited by their own culture and government, often far greater, such as those I mentioned: military intervention, breach of privacy, terrorism, etc. Yeah you can complain about gender equality in Russia, but where is the rage in all the human rights violation commited by America? Where is the rage? We have a word for this - HYPROCRISY.
Don't know where the fuck you've been, dear, but Americans complain about America all the time.
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On August 08 2013 22:32 Christ the Redeemer wrote:It is more moronic for someone to resort to ad hom in a discussion like this. The issue is not that you cannot complain about oppression in other countries. The issue is, especially among Americans who claim themselves to be the world`s police and moral center, they are fast to complain about "problems" in other countries, yet do not even bother to raise a finger towards problems commited by their own culture and government, often far greater, such as those I mentioned: military intervention, breach of privacy, terrorism, etc. Yeah you can complain about gender equality in Russia, but where is the rage in all the human rights violation commited by America? Where is the rage? We have a word for this - HYPROCRISY.
Many Americans have a huge problem with all these things. Unfortunately, our government doesn't really listen to us all that much. You're making the mistake of conflating people in America with our government, when the records show that the vast majority of Americans disapprove of their Congress.
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On August 08 2013 22:32 Christ the Redeemer wrote:It is more moronic for someone to resort to ad hom in a discussion like this. The issue is not that you cannot complain about oppression in other countries. The issue is, especially among Americans who claim themselves to be the world`s police and moral center, they are fast to complain about "problems" in other countries, yet do not even bother to raise a finger towards problems commited by their own culture and government, often far greater, such as those I mentioned: military intervention, breach of privacy, terrorism, etc. Yeah you can complain about gender equality in Russia, but where is the rage in all the human rights violation commited by America? Where is the rage? We have a word for this - HYPROCRISY.
Do you think if I spent some time looking up information about Brazil, do you think could prove that you couldn't complain about 'HYPROCRISY" in other countries when you have it in your own?
Once again, just because other nations have problems does not give Russia a pass.
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On August 08 2013 22:32 Christ the Redeemer wrote:It is more moronic for someone to resort to ad hom in a discussion like this. The issue is not that you cannot complain about oppression in other countries. The issue is, especially among Americans who claim themselves to be the world`s police and moral center, they are fast to complain about "problems" in other countries, yet do not even bother to raise a finger towards problems commited by their own culture and government, often far greater, such as those I mentioned: military intervention, breach of privacy, terrorism, etc. Yeah you can complain about gender equality in Russia, but where is the rage in all the human rights violation commited by America? Where is the rage? We have a word for this - HYPROCRISY.
??? There's plenty of rage? You do know that the Iraq war is massively unpopular right? I think the drone strikes have been plummeting in popularity the more people learn about them. And public support is generally on Snowdens side just because people don't like surveillance. Congress has had a single digit approval rating for a while.
Americans are incredibly critical of their government. We have been throughout history. It's practically our pastime.
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On August 08 2013 22:28 shinosai wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:23 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 22:14 marvellosity wrote:On August 08 2013 22:09 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 21:10 DoubleReed wrote:On August 08 2013 20:03 MikeMM wrote:On August 08 2013 19:45 n0ise wrote:We just think that it is not normal. By normal I mean that about 99% of population are not gay. What if a completely blind-born person would participate in a particular (doable) sport at the olympics. He's not normal, he's definitely not similar to 99% of the population. Do you go about beating, persecuting and banning him from the event? No, not unless you're living in the 7th fucking century. Which is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. Why do you think that in Russia gays are being beaten persecuted and banned from sport? You are completely and totaly wrong. Goverment does not support persecuton of gays. Oh sorry, that's probably waaay over your head. Continue talking about how homosexuality is "unnatural." It's all you know. You only think that homosexuality is natural or you have very solid evidences? Would you care to share them with me. I honestly wish to know why do you think why homosexuality is natural. And please be more polite in your posts because from some of your remarks I start to believe that your tolerance is only limited with gay. Do you come or do you not come from the most tolerant society toward all other people and their beliefs? What are your reasons to think homosexuality is not 'natural', exactly? My reason is very simple. There live about 7 bln people on earth right now. All 7 bln people were born from hetero couples. There is no single person who was born from gay couple. So we have 7 bln evidences that hetero couple are normal and 0 evidences that gay couple are normal. What if I told you.... that gay people can reproduce, too?
What if I told you... responding to stupid with stupid is still stupid?
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On August 08 2013 22:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 22:32 Christ the Redeemer wrote:It is more moronic for someone to resort to ad hom in a discussion like this. The issue is not that you cannot complain about oppression in other countries. The issue is, especially among Americans who claim themselves to be the world`s police and moral center, they are fast to complain about "problems" in other countries, yet do not even bother to raise a finger towards problems commited by their own culture and government, often far greater, such as those I mentioned: military intervention, breach of privacy, terrorism, etc. Yeah you can complain about gender equality in Russia, but where is the rage in all the human rights violation commited by America? Where is the rage? We have a word for this - HYPROCRISY. Don't know where the fuck you've been, dear, but Americans complain about America all the time.
Really love? So why the fuck is the NSA still doing what it has been illegally doing all these years? Where are these complaints you are talking about? Who are these complainants? It seems you are a little out of touch with reality,
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